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Postby Prince-Bishopric Of Liege » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:12 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Prince-Bishopric Of Liege wrote:That sounded a bit Red Weddingesque... Remind me to check the musicians in time.

Alternatively, hold the Kingsmoot Great Council in Nagga's Ribs Dragonstone, to ensure fairplay. The Royal Navy can push off any annoyances so us great lords can bicker.


And hostage all great lords except those with the naval strength (House Greyjoy). Yeah, right. :p
I suggest Summerhall as it was a former Targaryen residence. Or perhaps Harrenhal, which has a central location and is rather large.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 pm

Prince-Bishopric Of Liege wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Alternatively, hold the Kingsmoot Great Council in Nagga's Ribs Dragonstone, to ensure fairplay. The Royal Navy can push off any annoyances so us great lords can bicker.


And hostage all great lords except those with the naval strength (House Greyjoy). Yeah, right. :p
I suggest Summerhall as it was a former Targaryen residence. Or perhaps Harrenhal, which has a central location and is rather large.


Harrenhal is large and ruined. Summerhall is a possibility, as it's still intact in this AU.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 pm

Prince-Bishopric Of Liege wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Alternatively, hold the Kingsmoot Great Council in Nagga's Ribs Dragonstone, to ensure fairplay. The Royal Navy can push off any annoyances so us great lords can bicker.


And hostage all great lords except those with the naval strength (House Greyjoy). Yeah, right. :p
I suggest Summerhall as it was a former Targaryen residence. Or perhaps Harrenhal, which has a central location and is rather large.

Harrenhal would have a liege already, one loyal to the Riverlands. It should certainly be a Crownlander estate, to make things as kingly as possible.

Dragonstone works best, really, since its distant from the major players both and secluded enough that the group would be forewarned of any treason.

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Postby Ulster » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 pm

Harrenhal sounds good. It is central, and the Tullys the least likely to want a war.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 pm

Ulster wrote:Harrenhal sounds good. It is central, and the Tullys the least likely to want a war.

You can bet no Greyjoy is going to set foot in Harren's castle. That place be cursed.

But really, it being central has nothing to do with it. In fact, that'd make it easier to find and encircle should one lord turn traitor. With Dragonstone, that can't happen. Realistically, even the Ironborn couldn't take it from a properly defending Royal Navy.
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Postby Ulster » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:19 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:But really, it being central has nothing to do with it.

It does when you have to travel the length of a kingdom the size of the other six combined. :p

Fine, how about White Harbor?
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Postby Prince-Bishopric Of Liege » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:23 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:But really, it being central has nothing to do with it.

It does when you have to travel the length of a kingdom the size of the other six combined. :p

Fine, how about White Harbor?


I do think being central is imperative in choosing a location. We are in the middle ages after all... Harrenhal is central, large (and ruinous but we can camp) and is neutral enough (being no real riverland castle) to allow such a meeting. Surely we also will have to limit the amount of retainers and guards one brings.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:25 pm

Prince-Bishopric Of Liege wrote:
Ulster wrote:It does when you have to travel the length of a kingdom the size of the other six combined. :p

Fine, how about White Harbor?


I do think being central is imperative in choosing a location. We are in the middle ages after all... Harrenhal is central, large (and ruinous but we can camp) and is neutral enough (being no real riverland castle) to allow such a meeting. Surely we also will have to limit the amount of retainers and guards one brings.

It is also completely out of the way for the Greyjoys and others, who would have a far easier time finding Dragonstone by sea than Harrenhal by land. Really, I can't think of any single high lord who couldn't afford a small group of ships to take them to the Council safely; I could think of many that would fear travel by land.
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Postby Prince-Bishopric Of Liege » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:30 pm

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Prince-Bishopric Of Liege wrote:
I do think being central is imperative in choosing a location. We are in the middle ages after all... Harrenhal is central, large (and ruinous but we can camp) and is neutral enough (being no real riverland castle) to allow such a meeting. Surely we also will have to limit the amount of retainers and guards one brings.

It is also completely out of the way for the Greyjoys and others, who would have a far easier time finding Dragonstone by sea than Harrenhal by land. Really, I can't think of any single high lord who couldn't afford a small group of ships to take them to the Council safetly; I could think of many that would fear travel by land.


For all other lords (save the Greyjoys) travelling by land would be safer... Not that it matters for me, but it sounds rather...inconvenient, especially as I said before that the 'greenlanders' will be putting themselves at the mercy of the sea-faring nations (being the Greyjoys, the Royal Fleet and possible House Redwyne). We all stand to gain less by choosing Harrenhal, thus making it more-neutral. If nobody is happy, we found the perfect compromise...

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Postby Ulster » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:32 pm

Circumnavigating Westeros is easier than landing on the Riverlands western coast and traveling down the Blue Fork?

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:34 pm

Prince-Bishopric Of Liege wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:It is also completely out of the way for the Greyjoys and others, who would have a far easier time finding Dragonstone by sea than Harrenhal by land. Really, I can't think of any single high lord who couldn't afford a small group of ships to take them to the Council safetly; I could think of many that would fear travel by land.


For all other lords (save the Greyjoys) travelling by land would be safer... Not that it matters for me, but it sounds rather...inconvenient, especially as I said before that the 'greenlanders' will be putting themselves at the mercy of the sea-faring nations (being the Greyjoys, the Royal Fleet and possible House Redwyne). We all stand to gain less by choosing Harrenhal, thus making it more-neutral. If nobody is happy, we found the perfect compromise...

With every house between them and Harrenhal plotting, I doubt the Martells would want to travel by land. It's ripe for raiding and "accidents" where the king could just disappear, giving a Lannister perfect claim. It's also right next door, in the scope of things, to the Lannister lands, meaning that if war were to break out there, the Dornish would have to fight their way across the continent to be safe, while if it were held at Dragonstone, they could merely sail down, which would avoid security risks. Hell, I'd like it held at Seagard, so the Ironborn could actually hold the place hostage, but as I said, the Royal Navy could batter away any Ironborn attempts to seize Dragonstone with ease.
Ulster wrote:Circumnavigating Westeros is easier than landing on the Riverlands western coast and traveling down the Blue Fork?

Not circumnavigating; It's a trip up the Mander, than a portage between it and the Blackwater Rush, and from there through Kings Landing to Dragonstone.

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Postby Ulster » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:36 pm

That trip is still needlessly longer than necessary.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:38 pm

Ulster wrote:That trip is still needlessly longer than necessary.

Hardly. It is just as long as it has to be, to ensure a fair and equal meeting ground. Suggesting Harrenhal is about as good as suggesting King's Landing in its current state of affairs.

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Postby Shadyrya » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:39 pm

DON'T GO, THEY'LL KILL YOU ALL!

Lord Alyn will not attend, Geoffrey Royce will.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:40 pm

Shadyrya wrote:DON'T GO, THEY'LL KILL YOU ALL!

Lord Alyn will not attend, Geoffrey Royce will.

Similarly, wherever it's being held, Mandrick Greyjoy will be attending in the place of Lord Raddon. Ain't no way the Old Kraken is that gullible. :p

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Postby Ulster » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:40 pm

One would think a wise kraken could use the symbolism of Harrenhal to compare with recent death of the royal family that caused the castles destruction.
KL just seems rather farther than necessary, and hardly fair or equal considering it is held by one of the pretenders to the throne.

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Postby Prince-Bishopric Of Liege » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:43 pm

Say we agree with Dragonstone, surely we must limit the amount of people and ships people are taking with them...

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:43 pm

Ulster wrote:One would think a wise kraken could use the symbolism of Harrenhal to compare with recent death of the royal family that caused the castles destruction.
KL just seems rather farther than necessary, and hardly fair or equal considering it is held by one of the pretenders to the throne.

A wise kraken would know to stay as far away from Harrenhal as physically possible, and to only wish a visitation to it upon your worst enemies.

That's why I'm saying that Dragonstone would be superior. It's secluded and easily defensible from any of the major contenders.

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Postby Ulster » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:47 pm

Who holds Dragonstone? A Targaryen bastard?

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:48 pm

My Nights Watch galleys can interrupt if it's on Dragonstone.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:50 pm

Ulster wrote:Who holds Dragonstone? A Targaryen bastard?

Aye, in his authority as Master of Ships.

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Postby Of the Quendi » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:55 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:Alternatively, hold the Kingsmoot Great Council in Nagga's Ribs Dragonstone, to ensure fairplay. The Royal Navy can push off any annoyances so us great lords can bicker.


Lunas Legion wrote:
No, Castle Black once the Wildings have been crushed. The Watch is the only impartial faction in Westeros and Essos.

Bad and worse. I don't know if you are joking or really believe those super isolated places to be suitable locations for a meeting. A central location would have to be choosen if people expect Tyrell attendance. Harrenhal perhaps, or if that is too cursed somewhere else in South or southeast Riverlands.

Alternatively you are of course all welcome in Highgarden if you don't mind voting for a Tyrell which is likely to be the only name on a ballot Down there. :p
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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:00 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Alternatively, hold the Kingsmoot Great Council in Nagga's Ribs Dragonstone, to ensure fairplay. The Royal Navy can push off any annoyances so us great lords can bicker.


Lunas Legion wrote:
No, Castle Black once the Wildings have been crushed. The Watch is the only impartial faction in Westeros and Essos.

Bad and worse. I don't know if you are joking or really believe those super isolated places to be suitable locations for a meeting. A central location would have to be choosen if people expect Tyrell attendance. Harrenhal perhaps, or if that is too cursed somewhere else in South or southeast Riverlands.

Alternatively you are of course all welcome in Highgarden if you don't mind voting for a Tyrell which is likely to be the only name on a ballot Down there. :p

Alternatively, we can hold it in the Iron Islands. Just for shits and giggles. :p

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Postby Sealord Laerio Grynsell » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:02 pm

Come to Braavos! Sealord Laerio awaits your gold discussions with open arms and is completely impartial! I suppose...
Actually Unitaristic Regions. Created for the GOT: Win or Die RP.

Oh, and remember: RENLY IS NOT RIGHT!

I'll probably have Laerio convert to the Drowned God.

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Postby Of the Quendi » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:05 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:Alternatively, we can hold it in the Iron Islands. Just for shits and giggles. :p

The Smoking Sea or the Lands of Always Winter would be preferable to that.
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