Game of Thrones: Win or Die [Sign-up, OOC]

[Shadyrya]

Right, but a paranoid madman like Aerys would do it with an ulterior motive or something. He wasn't called the Mad King because got trolled so often on the internet, after all.

True chainz, I must admit.

Though one may doubt the Kingsguard's loyalty to Aerys. It seems like everyone but Robert loved Rhaegar.

[Ulster]

So if I get confirmed as Stark, want me to send a Glover to meet with House Arryn?

[Shadyrya]

So if I get confirmed as Stark, want me to send a Glover to meet with House Arryn?

If you sent your Lord, t'would be better.

Glover may have a great history in memehood, but he is no Lord Stark.

[Ulster]

Send my lord into the Vale?

The Arryns aren't crazy like Lysa and Robin, are they?

[Shadyrya]

Send my lord into the Vale?

The Arryns aren't crazy like Lysa and Robin, are they?

No. Alyn isn't the champion of honor, but he's no Walder Frey. You'd be fine. We'd even send an honor guard to meet you halfway.

Way to post just in time, was about to log off out of boredom.

[Ulster]

My little birds told me you might.

Ok. I mean the Arryns should theoretically be the champions of honour in Westeros, but Alyn's still just human.

[Shadyrya]

My little birds told me you might.

Ok. I mean the Arryns should theoretically be the champions of honour in Westeros, but Alyn's still just human.

Alyn is very different from most Arryns. He's sly, cunning, and willing to slit throats rather than duel. Not an honorable man, but a good player of the Game.

He won't murder you under guest right, however.

[Ulster]

What's the muster of the Vale? 45k?

[Shadyrya]

What's the muster of the Vale? 45k?

30k.

But we also have the Eyrie, which is impregnable.

[Ulster]

Only 30k? Why do some of the numbers seem rather low? Martin compared the strength of the Vale to being equal to the North. Did you decide on 30k yourself or was it set?
The ASOIAF rpg book sanctioned by GRRM set the Vale at 45k.

[Shadyrya]

Only 30k? Why do some of the numbers seem rather low? Martin compared the strength of the Vale to being equal to the North. Did you decide on 30k yourself or was it set?
The ASOIAF rpg book sanctioned by GRRM set the Vale at 45k.

I'll see if Quendi will let me edit, then.

Everyone seems to have lower numbers than I thought, though, besides Highgarden.

[Ulster]

I noticed that. Even though we never see Highgarden mobilize 100,000 in the books. Renly's host was 80,000, probably split 30/50 between Stormlanders and Reachmen, with another 10k at Highgarden.
The rpg book lists Highgarden as 100,000, with all the scrappings of the barrel, much like Stafford Lannister's host at Oxcross was the sweepings of Lannisport.
Not that numbers should be the sole focus of the game, but houses shouldn't be completely nerfed. Greyjoys probably rate 20k, and Martell 25k.

[Shadyrya]

I noticed that. Even though we never see Highgarden mobilize 100,000 in the books. Renly's host was 80,000, probably split 30/50 between Stormlanders and Reachmen, with another 10k at Highgarden.
The rpg book lists Highgarden as 100,000, with all the scrappings of the barrel, much like Stafford Lannister's host at Oxcross was the sweepings of Lannisport.
Not that numbers should be the sole focus of the game, but houses shouldn't be completely nerfed. Greyjoys probably rate 20k, and Martell 25k.

Yeah, people are being quite modest.

I couldn't find a source as to how many men we should have.

[Ulster]

In a fair number of the RPs done here, the ASOIAF RPG books numbers have sufficed:
Crownlands - 15 to 20k
Stormlands - 30k
Reach - 80k to 100k
Westerlands - 50 to 60k
North - 45k
Vale - 45k
Riverlands - 45k
Iron Islands - 20k
Dorne - 25k

With varying degrees of foot-to-horse ratios and fleets. Royal fleet the largest, then Ironborn, then Redwyne.

[Shadyrya]

In a fair number of the RPs done here, the ASOIAF RPG books numbers have sufficed:
Crownlands - 15 to 20k
Stormlands - 30k
Reach - 80k to 100k
Westerlands - 50 to 60k
North - 45k
Vale - 45k
Riverlands - 45k
Iron Islands - 20k
Dorne - 25k

With varying degrees of foot-to-horse ratios and fleets. Royal fleet the largest, then Ironborn, then Redwyne.

Yeah, no one but Quendi and you, I believe, have lived up to those numbers.

King in the North and the King in the Reach is where this is going, methinks. *nod*

[Ulster]

Then I shall just propose a marriage alliance to the Reach and we'll split Westeros between us.

[Shadyrya]

Then I shall just propose a marriage alliance to the Reach and we'll split Westeros between us.

Nah, you have to marry the Vale, in case something goes wrong. Then you can run back to the Eyrie, because it's impregnable.

[Ulster]

Give Galbart Glover ten good men and some climbing spikes, and he'll impregnate the bitch. For impregnable is not right.

[Shadyrya]

Give Galbart Glover ten good men and some climbing spikes, and he'll impregnate the bitch. For impregnable is not right.

Uni and I discussed this earlier; the Eyrie men know it better than yours, have bows, and heavy armor. You're likely armed with smaller weapons and leather armor. We would rain arrows down on your men and kill them quickly.

Methinks Bronn isn't the only person to ever think of such a simple strategy. -_- Others have likely tried it, and failed horribly.

[Ulster]

Not that I was discussing it seriously, but the fact it isn't believed to be possible lends weight to the possibility of it happening. Guards assume it can't be done, so they get lax.

[Shadyrya]

Not that I was discussing it seriously, but the fact it isn't believed to be possible lends weight to the possibility of it happening. Guards assume it can't be done, so they get lax.

Okay, the first waycastle gets taken.

There's still the latter two, Snow and Sky, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they have maesters and ravens at all the waycastles?

The first one, Stone, I think, might be taken. Snow - well, it's slim, but there's a possibility. Not Sky, though.

Sorry if I got the order wrong.

[Ulster]

They don't have maesters and ravens at the waycastles, and your focus on them (possibly) underlines a hole in the defense. What if they scaled the mountain and bypassed the waycastles entirely? They would be the heaviest defended, naturally.

The Vale fell to the Targs because the Lord of the Eyrie was captured. If attackers made it into the castle and stealthily found their target, they could win near bloodlessly.
Big if, but history is full of such queer occurrences.

[Shadyrya]

They don't have maesters and ravens at the waycastles, and your focus on them (possibly) underlines a hole in the defense. What if they scaled the mountain and bypassed the waycastles entirely? They would be the heaviest defended, naturally.

The Vale fell to the Targs because the Lord of the Eyrie was captured. If attackers made it into the castle and stealthily found their target, they could win near bloodlessly.
Big if, but history is full of such queer occurrences.

Men who don't know the Eyrie and would likely be climbing after daylight? And then they somehow get past both the household guard and Alyn's excellent sworn sword?

I am fearing for the Eyrie after this ingenious suggestion.

Don't really see infiltration happening. Maybe starving them out, but not managing to get past all the waycastles as well as the Bloody Gate.

[Ulster]

Careful there, your words are As High as Honour, not as High as Hubris.

[Shadyrya]

Careful there, your words are As High as Honour, not as High as Hubris.

The great, extremely intelligent and strong Lord Alyn Arryn does not accept insults from his lessers! He is twice the man you ever will be!