Game of Thrones: Win or Die [Sign-up, OOC]

[Sealord Laerio Grynsell]

You didn't want to invite me?

I invited you in my mind.

Was your mind large enough to include me? *Shows puppy eyes.*

[Shadyrya]

You didn't want to invite me?

I invited you in my mind.

While I'm still suspicious of your fake courtesies that can't be proved, I shan't drown you ... yet.

Also, Mr. Greyjoy, do you think a marriage between our houses would be practical? By my estimations, it gives us the strongest navy and a formidable force on land.

[Ulster]

[TwoCents]Since the Vale is the heart of Andal culture and the Faith of the Seven, I don't think they'd take too well to non-Andal/non-Seven type folk.[/TwoCents]

[Shadyrya]

[TwoCents]Since the Vale is the heart of Andal culture and the Faith of the Seven, I don't think they'd take too well to non-Andal/non-Seven type folk.[/TwoCents]

Lord Alyn is practical; such things wouldn't bother him.


But the rest of the Vale...

[Evraim]

I'm working on a new post...

[First Valerian Empire]

Ok. I'm preparing to marry off the Golden Flower of the Lannisters... any takers?

[Shadyrya]

Ok. I'm preparing to marry off the Golden Flower of the Lannisters... any takers?

I already asked. So yes, me.

[Ulster]

Ok. I'm preparing to marry off the Golden Flower of the Lannisters... any takers?

Marry her to Tywin to keep the power in the family. /targ

[First Valerian Empire]

Ok. I'm preparing to marry off the Golden Flower of the Lannisters... any takers?

Marry her to Tywin to keep the power in the family. /targ

ewww..

[Ulster]

Marry her to Tywin to keep the power in the family. /targ

ewww..

If you're going to be King, you have to make sacrifices, bru.

[Ceannairceach]

Marry her to Tywin to keep the power in the family. /targ

ewww..

Lord, just wait until the Daughters get even worse with Sorrick...

[Evraim]

Ok. I'm preparing to marry off the Golden Flower of the Lannisters... any takers?

Velaryon, mayhaps.

[Ulster]

Lord, just wait until the Daughters get even worse with Sorrick...

Crippled Sorrick or young Sorrick?

[First Valerian Empire]

ewww..

If you're going to be King, you have to make sacrifices, bru.

Incest is unbecoming of a true borne Lannister

So Ser Arys Arryn and Lady Joanna Lannister, it has a ring to it.

Tell me more about Ser Arys, I want to know the boy I'm marrying my little flower off to. There won't be any of that Joffrey and Sansa business going on.

[Shadyrya]

Ok. I'm preparing to marry off the Golden Flower of the Lannisters... any takers?

Velaryon, mayhaps.

Why would they do that? Your House is small and weak, with little holdings. Just seems illogical.

[Ulster]

Incest is unbecoming of a true borne Lannister

I don't know, Tywin kept it in the family, his first two kids did as well, hmm...

[First Valerian Empire]

Velaryon, mayhaps.

Why would they do that? Your House is small and weak, with little holdings. Just seems illogical.

If the Master of Laws says that Tywin is the legitimate heir then well, no one can dispute it..

[Ulster]

Why would they do that? Your House is small and weak, with little holdings. Just seems illogical.

Contrary to RPs where such things are always vital, in Westeros-proper it's as much about bloodlines. The Velaryons are the blood of old Valyria, and the Targs married into them at least 3 times.

[Sealord Laerio Grynsell]

ewww..

If you're going to be King, you have to make sacrifices, bru.

Take one for the team. Fuck your sister, bro.

[Ceannairceach]

Lord, just wait until the Daughters get even worse with Sorrick...

Crippled Sorrick or young Sorrick?

Young Sorrick. Crippled Sorrick is just there so his sons can be.

[Shadyrya]

Why would they do that? Your House is small and weak, with little holdings. Just seems illogical.

Contrary to RPs where such things are always vital, in Westeros-proper it's as much about bloodlines. The Velaryons are the blood of old Valyria, and the Targs married into them at least 3 times.

'Lolz in a time where we really need more men to fight a war let's marry a very small house somewhere over around Dragonstone, because fuck it we're the Lannisters.'

I don't really see it happening.

[Ceannairceach]

Why would they do that? Your House is small and weak, with little holdings. Just seems illogical.

Contrary to RPs where such things are always vital, in Westeros-proper it's as much about bloodlines. The Velaryons are the blood of old Valyria, and the Targs married into them at least 3 times.

Meh, I don't really see it myself. I think one of the most important themes of this body of work is that while bloodlines and ancestry make for a fine sentiment during peacetime, they matter little when all the cards are on the table. Aegon didn't have a blood claim to Westeros, but he took it. Robert by all rights was a usurper, but he took the throne anyway. The Lannisters know they hold no claim--well, except for Tywin--but they do not relent in their hold to the throne.

Blood matters very little when the steel has come out, in short.

[First Valerian Empire]

mhmmm

Joanna Lannister to an Arryn and Tytos Lannister to Lady Danae Velaryon.

Maybe

[Ulster]

Not quite so simple. If it were, the Tyrells or Lannisters would have made a bid for kingship the day the last dragon (animal) died and Dorne and the North would have declared independence.
The books more have a theme that there is power in blood and bloodlines, both in belief and even in fact. The recent usurpation of those bloodlines, and all the death and woe that has followed under the mistaken belief that any lord with swords is the next Aegon, shows that steel by itself isn't really enough.

Of course this is an RP with little magic involved, and in any event my observation were meant more in general to the worthiness of the Velaryon bloodline than to the practicability of it in an RP.

[First Valerian Empire]

Not quite so simple. If it were, the Tyrells or Lannisters would have made a bid for kingship the day the last dragon (animal) died and Dorne and the North would have declared independence.
The books more have a theme that there is power in blood and bloodlines, both in belief and even in fact. The recent usurpation of those bloodlines, and all the death and woe that has followed under the mistaken belief that any lord with swords is the next Aegon, shows that steel by itself isn't really enough.

Of course this is an RP with little magic involved, and in any event my observation were meant more in general to the worthiness of the Velaryon bloodline than to the practicability of it in an RP.

The lack of a Dragons and the presence of a Single superior Bloodline simply complicates the politics but it's always been the same.

Robert was able to sit on the throne and keep it because he could claim it by blood, in the same light if Ned Stark had sat his arse on the throne then there would have been problems.