Your world (Alternative history RP ;OOC/Open)

[Dwartzur]

What? Jutes, angles, saxons, etc? Yeah, they're all germanic cultures.
And the Kingdom of Dorestad did exist. For 35 years. It had two rulers, Rorik and Godfrid. But they were vassals of the franks, so they weren't really independant...

Yes I know that, I am wandering if this cultures still existed with distinction to each other, still in 1400 AD

Well... Though in some regions you had angle-saxons, there still were some saxon-only regions, etc... So they were distinct in some cases, yeah.
But actually I think the frisians are a culture that was derivated from the jutes, angles and saxons.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

I have 30.000.000....

Thank you!!! See. Greece has 30 million and he's almost 3 times your size! I'm calling BS Rome-Italy!

greece and the areas he owns...less dense than italy

[Vredlandia]

Perhaps an alliance between you and I can be hammered out to come to the aid of the Genoans?

Well, I would not disagree. We really do not care that much about religion and are more liberal than most European nations. However, I still need to be asked for help, and I will only interfere when the war is already a bit on the negative side for Genoa.

He said lower your claims a bit. I'm sure he did not check the whole app again. Also, seeing as Italy has 60 million inhabitants right now, you only own half of it and are around 600 years away from now, 25 million are also unrealistic.

No....When i changed the population i wasent done my history so i could not have been accepted...
So thus i was accepted with 25 million

I still think that is highly unrealistic and if I were the OP, I would have not allowed this.
The 200.000 men army can still be raised with 11million, so that won't change anything, although I doubt you'd be able to keep it up with such a small piece of land you have, but it still disturbs me a bit.

[Groko]

I have 30.000.000....

Thank you!!! See. Greece has 30 million and he's almost 3 times your size! I'm calling BS Rome-Italy!

Also, technically you were never really accepted..... Either way, it actually does erk me a bit that you had 11 million, "lowered" your claims, and grew to 25 million. If 11 million was realistic, why the increase?

Thank you!!! See. Greece has 30 million and he's almost 3 times your size! I'm calling BS Rome-Italy!

greece and the areas he owns...less dense than italy

So we agree... your claims are not as densely populated as you suggest. No one's are at this time period.

[Skaldia]

Perhaps an alliance between you and I can be hammered out to come to the aid of the Genoans?

Well, I would not disagree. We really do not care that much about religion and are more liberal than most European nations. However, I still need to be asked for help, and I will only interfere when the war is already a bit on the negative side for Genoa.

Gotta get Genoa to do it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAzlNJo ... U&index=25

This is the Baltic song dude.

[Groko]

Well, I would not disagree. We really do not care that much about religion and are more liberal than most European nations. However, I still need to be asked for help, and I will only interfere when the war is already a bit on the negative side for Genoa.

Gotta get Genoa to do it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAzlNJo ... U&index=25

This is the Baltic song dude.

Yep. They're Scandinavian.

Or would you prefer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3vvGeCE7to

[Skaldia]

Gotta get Genoa to do it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAzlNJo ... U&index=25

This is the Baltic song dude.

Yep. They're Scandinavian.

Or would you prefer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3vvGeCE7to

That's pretty hardcore as well. Like it.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Thank you!!! See. Greece has 30 million and he's almost 3 times your size! I'm calling BS Rome-Italy!

Also, technically you were never really accepted..... Either way, it actually does erk me a bit that you had 11 million, "lowered" your claims, and grew to 25 million. If 11 million was realistic, why the increase?

greece and the areas he owns...less dense than italy

So we agree... your claims are not as densely populated as you suggest. No one's are at this time period.

Italy had about 12/km lol
I actually made myy claim bigger in tg with the OP

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Perhaps an alliance between you and I can be hammered out to come to the aid of the Genoans?

Well, I would not disagree. We really do not care that much about religion and are more liberal than most European nations. However, I still need to be asked for help, and I will only interfere when the war is already a bit on the negative side for Genoa.

No....When i changed the population i wasent done my history so i could not have been accepted...
So thus i was accepted with 25 million

I still think that is highly unrealistic and if I were the OP, I would have not allowed this.
The 200.000 men army can still be raised with 11million, so that won't change anything, although I doubt you'd be able to keep it up with such a small piece of land you have, but it still disturbs me a bit.

Also note....The Op has yet to fix my claims

[Vredlandia]

Well, I would not disagree. We really do not care that much about religion and are more liberal than most European nations. However, I still need to be asked for help, and I will only interfere when the war is already a bit on the negative side for Genoa.



I still think that is highly unrealistic and if I were the OP, I would have not allowed this.
The 200.000 men army can still be raised with 11million, so that won't change anything, although I doubt you'd be able to keep it up with such a small piece of land you have, but it still disturbs me a bit.

Also note....The Op has yet to fix my claims

It's still small for a 200.000 men army.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Also note....The Op has yet to fix my claims

It's still small for a 200.000 men army.

i dont intend to raise that many...im fine with my well trained 30,000 and whatever men the greeks can supply.

[Vredlandia]

It's still small for a 200.000 men army.

i dont intend to raise that many...im fine with my well trained 30,000 and whatever men the greeks can supply.

Well, you said that you will throw 200.000 men against their walls earlier. That's how I thought of this number.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

i dont intend to raise that many...im fine with my well trained 30,000 and whatever men the greeks can supply.

Well, you said that you will throw 200.000 men against their walls earlier. That's how I thought of this number.

No i was simply stating that i COULD send that many at his walls

[Groko]

Well, you said that you will throw 200.000 men against their walls earlier. That's how I thought of this number.

No i was simply stating that i COULD send that many at his walls

Finally, you posted. It's time to get real.

[Groko]

i dont intend to raise that many...im fine with my well trained 30,000 and whatever men the greeks can supply.

Well, you said that you will throw 200.000 men against their walls earlier. That's how I thought of this number.

Because of your religion...I'm gonna have to decline publicly for now. (I'll respond to it next post). I'm trying to organize a Christian coalition against the hereticalcatholic Rome...who's Catholic, but invaded the Papal States, which would make him not catholic and Europe's worst enemy, but....ok

[Old Tyrannia]

I've been doing my sums.

The heretical Romans have an army of 30,000 men, plus whatever the Greeks can supply.

Genoa has 5,000 troops. The Baltic Empire is sending another 5,000 troops, and the Holy Kingdom of Scotland will contribute 1,500. The Sultanate of Morocco has promised 30,000 troops. That's a grand total of 41,500 troops, giving us a numerical advantage of 11,500 men. I might send a further 1,000 once the war is in full swing, bringing it up to 42,500.

Still feeling confident, ICD?

[Groko]

I've been doing my sums.

The heretical Romans have an army of 30,000 men, plus whatever the Greeks can supply.

Genoa has 5,000 troops. The Baltic Empire is sending another 5,000 troops, and the Holy Kingdom of Scotland will contribute 1,500. The Sultanate of Morocco has promised 30,000 troops. That's a grand total of 41,500 troops, giving us a numerical advantage of 11,500 men. I might send a further 1,000 once the war is in full swing, bringing it up to 42,500.

Still feeling confident, ICD?

A year passed and Genoa is conscripting a larger army. We now have 10,000. (The argument could be made for 15,000 if my post comes mid-page, otherwise every year we raise 10,000 more until we reach 50,000.[50,000 is our max 2% during peacetime. Once the war officially starts, and additional 25,000 can be raised at the same rate, 10,000 per year])

Just sayin...

[Bolguria]

What would be a fair military size for a country with 6,200,000 people, and has very high alert level?

[Old Tyrannia]

I've been doing my sums.

The heretical Romans have an army of 30,000 men, plus whatever the Greeks can supply.

Genoa has 5,000 troops. The Baltic Empire is sending another 5,000 troops, and the Holy Kingdom of Scotland will contribute 1,500. The Sultanate of Morocco has promised 30,000 troops. That's a grand total of 41,500 troops, giving us a numerical advantage of 11,500 men. I might send a further 1,000 once the war is in full swing, bringing it up to 42,500.

Still feeling confident, ICD?

A year passed and Genoa is conscripting a larger army. We now have 10,000. (The argument could be made for 15,000 if my post comes mid-page, otherwise every year we raise 10,000 more until we reach 50,000.)

Just sayin...

Even better. That gives us 46,500 troops, 16,500 more than the Romans.

I've decided to up the troops I'm sending from 1,000 to 1,500 because I'm hoping they'll be able to travel over land with the Baltic Empire's forces rather than having to sail around Europe.

What would be a fair military size for a country with 6,200,000 people, and has very high alert level?

Depends on your type of military organization.

[Groko]

What would be a fair military size for a country with 6,200,000 people, and has very high alert level?

Professional Army: Small, professionally-trained standing army is employed. This drains the coffers of the government, however, resulting in a weaker peacetime and wartime economy. Soldiers are well-trained and professionally equipped, with mostly modern equipment. Mobilization is quick, because the army is already fairly ready to deploy. Allows for a 1% military size in peacetime, and may be raised to 2% in wartime.

^^^^^ Follow that.

EDIT: I just noticed your App says your military is at 376,000 (this would destroy your economy/bankrupt you)

Your Wartime Max is: 124,000
Your Peacetime Max is: 62,000

Do with that info what you like.

[Great Nepal]

I've been doing my sums.

The heretical Romans have an army of 30,000 men, plus whatever the Greeks can supply.

Genoa has 5,000 troops. The Baltic Empire is sending another 5,000 troops, and the Holy Kingdom of Scotland will contribute 1,500. The Sultanate of Morocco has promised 30,000 troops. That's a grand total of 41,500 troops, giving us a numerical advantage of 11,500 men. I might send a further 1,000 once the war is in full swing, bringing it up to 42,500.

Still feeling confident, ICD?

And Emperor will also send out men and ships, not decided how much yet.

[Old Tyrannia]

I've been doing my sums.

The heretical Romans have an army of 30,000 men, plus whatever the Greeks can supply.

Genoa has 5,000 troops. The Baltic Empire is sending another 5,000 troops, and the Holy Kingdom of Scotland will contribute 1,500. The Sultanate of Morocco has promised 30,000 troops. That's a grand total of 41,500 troops, giving us a numerical advantage of 11,500 men. I might send a further 1,000 once the war is in full swing, bringing it up to 42,500.

Still feeling confident, ICD?

And Emperor will also send out men and ships, not decided how much yet.

And once we're done with the Romans, having troops in Italy sets us up for a pincer attack on the French Commonwealth from north and south...

And we'll have Rome, so the Pope can be... Persuaded to grant his blessing.

[Skaldia]

I've reorganized the forces I've been sending. 5,200 will be sent which will be made up of 4,500 Heavy Swordsmen (think of the Dismounted Imperial Knights from Medieval Total War to get an idea of what they look like) 500 Longbowmen, and 200 heavy horse. I have a standing professional army of 70,000.

EDIT: I doubt the Pope will condone having Muslims on Italian soil, even if they are there to 'help' a Catholic nation, so I wouldn't go too far in saying that they won't be reliable. Also, we don't have to fight a pitched battle with the Romans. We merely let them come to us and beat their heads against the wall. Medieval warfare favors the defender.

[Great Nepal]

And Emperor will also send out men and ships, not decided how much yet.

And once we're done with the Romans, having troops in Italy sets us up for a pincer attack on the French Commonwealth from north and south...

And we'll have Rome, so the Pope can be... Persuaded to grant his blessing.

Exactly.
I am trying to think what would be awesome title addition for my Emperor...

[Skaldia]

And once we're done with the Romans, having troops in Italy sets us up for a pincer attack on the French Commonwealth from north and south...

And we'll have Rome, so the Pope can be... Persuaded to grant his blessing.

Exactly.
I am trying to think what would be awesome title addition for my Emperor...

I won't engage in a war with the French. No profit in it.