1700's, Rise of the World RP (OOC/Open)

[Machtergreifung]

I am just going to say Sweden is superior Denmark in land warfare.

The Great Northern War would disagree with you there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War

[Miracum-Izmir]

Yay! Be warned,Oman will never surrender to Europe and there interests in my land! We will fight to the very end,mark my words,europe!

[Valentir]

So, I still have lots of silver. Any buyers? And Austria because you let us put a Spanish man on the Spanish Throne and let us go through succession peacefully and on our terms we would like to give you a gift. You can use the Strait of Gibraltar free of charge for a year.

[Krintzaika]

So, I still have lots of silver. Any buyers? And Austria because you let us put a Spanish man on the Spanish Throne and let us go through succession peacefully and on our terms we would like to give you a gift. You can use the Strait of Gibraltar free of charge for a year.

I would love to buy silver, if it weren't for Sweden that is.

[Valentir]

So, I still have lots of silver. Any buyers? And Austria because you let us put a Spanish man on the Spanish Throne and let us go through succession peacefully and on our terms we would like to give you a gift. You can use the Strait of Gibraltar free of charge for a year.

I would love to buy silver, if it weren't for Sweden that is.

Meh, we already established that trade would not go one between us.

[Epraria]

I am just going to say Sweden is superior Denmark in land warfare.

The Great Northern War would disagree with you there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War

It was Russia that won the war not Denmark. Seriusly. It was Russia that turned the tide while Sweden had beaten Denmark out of the war and pushed Poland into a bloody pulp.

[The TARDIS Community]

Yay! Be warned,Oman will never surrender to Europe and there interests in my land! We will fight to the very end,mark my words,europe!

The Swiss Cheese Union has something to say about that.

[Saragrossa]

Country Name: Safavid Empire/ Persia / Safavid dynasty
Leader: Sultan Husayn
Currency: Riel/Ruel
Religion: Shi'a Islamic, Open islamic society
Army Size: 85,000
Navy Size: 14 Ships of the Line, dozens of smaller frigates used as a merchant ships
Strengths: Regional economical superpower, efficient state and bureaucracy, gunpowder empire in Middle east, Highly professional fighting force/logistics
Weaknesses: Cockblocked by Ottoman Empire and Mughals / Not imperialistic society, very isolated due to religious beliefs

[Valentir]

Country Name: Safavid Empire/ Persia / Safavid dynasty
Leader: Sultan Husayn
Currency: Riel/Ruel
Religion: Shi'a Islamic, Open islamic society
Army Size: 85,000
Navy Size: 14 Ships of the Line, dozens of smaller frigates used as a merchant ships
Strengths: Regional economical superpower, efficient state and bureaucracy, gunpowder empire in Middle east, Highly professional fighting force/logistics
Weaknesses: Cockblocked by Ottoman Empire and Mughals / Not imperialistic society, very isolated due to religious beliefs

That is taken.

[Saragrossa]

Country Name: Safavid Empire/ Persia / Safavid dynasty
Leader: Sultan Husayn
Currency: Riel/Ruel
Religion: Shi'a Islamic, Open islamic society
Army Size: 85,000
Navy Size: 14 Ships of the Line, dozens of smaller frigates used as a merchant ships
Strengths: Regional economical superpower, efficient state and bureaucracy, gunpowder empire in Middle east, Highly professional fighting force/logistics
Weaknesses: Cockblocked by Ottoman Empire and Mughals / Not imperialistic society, very isolated due to religious beliefs

That is taken.

lawl lol what isn't lol Is venice open?

[Valentir]

That is taken.

lawl lol what isn't lol Is venice open?

It is taken.

[Umonia]

That is taken.

lawl lol what isn't lol Is venice open?

Genoa is open

[Saragrossa]

lawl lol what isn't lol Is venice open?

It is taken.

Savoy or Naples open?

[Epraria]

Well sargossa could take Sweden from me if he wanted. I am not sure i am saying this.

[Machtergreifung]

Wait, Denmark got the Danish West Indies in 1754. Just to let you know.

The islands were colonized by the Danish West Indies Companies. 1754 was when they de facto became possessions of the Danish Crown.

[Saragrossa]

Well sargossa could take Sweden from me if he wanted. I am not sure i am saying this.

You don't want to be sweden?

[Valentir]

It is taken.

Savoy or Naples open?

Naples is apart of me, Spain. Savoy is being invaded by France. Genoa is open. Hannover, Mecklenburg, Oldenburg, Bavaria, and a lot of other german states are open.

Well sargossa could take Sweden from me if he wanted. I am not sure i am saying this.

Stay EP.

Wait, Denmark got the Danish West Indies in 1754. Just to let you know.

The islands were colonized by the Danish West Indies Companies. 1754 was when they de facto became possessions of the Danish Crown.

Ah okay.

[Epraria]

Well sargossa could take Sweden from me if he wanted. I am not sure i am saying this.

You don't want to be sweden?

Well yes. But do you want to be Sweden?

[Machtergreifung]

The Great Northern War would disagree with you there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War

It was Russia that won the war not Denmark. Seriusly. It was Russia that turned the tide while Sweden had beaten Denmark out of the war and pushed Poland into a bloody pulp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Frederiksborg

Sure looks like a treaty that a victorious Sweeden would sign with a defeated Denmark.

[Epraria]

It was Russia that won the war not Denmark. Seriusly. It was Russia that turned the tide while Sweden had beaten Denmark out of the war and pushed Poland into a bloody pulp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Frederiksborg

Sure looks like a treaty that a victorious Sweeden would sign with a defeated Denmark.

There are many reasons that are not because of Denmark. First of most of swedens fighting strenght was gone fighting the Russians. Second of Sweden was focused on Russia not Denmark.l who made a sneak attack. Third of Sweden was fighting a two front war.

[Keznov]

I just wanted to point out to the Venetian player, the Republic of Venice was designed specifically and so intricately as to prevent a family from forming a hereditary hold on the nation. The last family that tried to do that in the 800s or 900s was executed.

Also, regarding the treaty, the Pope won't interfere with it but he wants to know that France and Austria weren't pushed to do it. He doesn't honestly care who the King is as long as he is pious and such.

[Umonia]

I just wanted to point out to the Venetian player, the Republic of Venice was designed specifically and so intricately as to prevent a family from forming a hereditary hold on the nation. The last family that tried to do that in the 800s or 900s was executed.

Also, regarding the treaty, the Pope won't interfere with it but he wants to know that France and Austria weren't pushed to do it. He doesn't honestly care who the King is as long as he is pious and such.

Could you give me sources?

[Valentir]

I just wanted to point out to the Venetian player, the Republic of Venice was designed specifically and so intricately as to prevent a family from forming a hereditary hold on the nation. The last family that tried to do that in the 800s or 900s was executed.

Also, regarding the treaty, the Pope won't interfere with it but he wants to know that France and Austria weren't pushed to do it. He doesn't honestly care who the King is as long as he is pious and such.

Hey I asked and they consented. I really couldn't force France, the Greatest European Power, into doing it. France could have ran over me and put a Bourbon on the Throne. Oh and Spain is allowing money lending btw.

[Machtergreifung]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Frederiksborg

Sure looks like a treaty that a victorious Sweeden would sign with a defeated Denmark.

There are many reasons that are not because of Denmark. First of most of swedens fighting strenght was gone fighting the Russians. Second of Sweden was focused on Russia not Denmark.l who made a sneak attack. Third of Sweden was fighting a two front war.

All of which debunks the notion of inherintly superior Swedish arms. Swedish troops are just as good as any other.

[Epraria]

There are many reasons that are not because of Denmark. First of most of swedens fighting strenght was gone fighting the Russians. Second of Sweden was focused on Russia not Denmark.l who made a sneak attack. Third of Sweden was fighting a two front war.

All of which debunks the notion of inherintly superior Swedish arms. Swedish troops are just as good as any other.

Swedish are not inheritaly superior it was the training and tactics of the Swedes that won battles until poltava and currently the Swedes have better trained infantry and better generals and an all around better army than Denmark. Denmark has the better navy though.