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Who will win the Northern War?

1: Sweden and it's allies
11
30%
2: Denmark-Norway and it's allies
4
11%
3: Spain conquers the World and enslaves both of them
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No votes
4: France and Spain both do number 3 together
5
14%
5: We all die because the sky begins to rain cheese
17
46%
 
Total votes : 37
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Jamessonia
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:51 am

Valentir wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:I think we have to decide between having a strict time rule, and therefore slower pace, or sacrifice pace for a strict time rule. I am in favor of the first. We should just let time advance as it will. Everyone has to remember that a round trip messenger to another European country takes 1-2 months.

That allows people to take advantage of that system. I want a set system that cannot be manipulated.

Then everyone has to slow down the pace of their messages between countries. Everyone should send their individual messengers at the same time, since it should be assumed each takes 2 months round-trip.
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:51 am

Kryskov wrote:
Valentir wrote:I already have a new guy for the new dynasty. But thanks for the offer.
I would like to keep Milan please. But perhaps we can negotiate that separately? Oh and I will give Verbluffen a day more.

Well, I really wouldn't like Flanders...that would mean actively investing in a navy.

So do you and France accept my terms? And you know what. Verbluffen could you choose someone else? I accept Kryskov as Austria.
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:52 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Epraria wrote:Ha the Swedish army is superior to the polish army at this age.

Blasphemy! Have this man flogged!

really cause if the poles had the better army why did Sweden force Poland out of the war until poltava?
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:53 am

Epraria wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:Blasphemy! Have this man flogged!

really cause if the poles had the better army why did Sweden force Poland out of the war until poltava?

You and your truth!
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:54 am

Valentir wrote:
Kryskov wrote:Well, I really wouldn't like Flanders...that would mean actively investing in a navy.

So do you and France accept my terms? And you know what. Verbluffen could you choose someone else? I accept Kryskov as Austria.

Yeah. As long as we remain allies I'm fine on whoever your King is. Just as long as it isn't another Hapsburg like Charles.
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:54 am

But really I don't want a goddamn giant war ok guys?
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Kryskov » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:55 am

Valentir wrote:So do you and France accept my terms? And you know what. Verbluffen could you choose someone else? I accept Kryskov as Austria.

Sure. But could I switch Flanders for Milan?
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:55 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Epraria wrote:really cause if the poles had the better army why did Sweden force Poland out of the war until poltava?

You and your truth!

Yeah, I hate truth.
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:55 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Valentir wrote:So do you and France accept my terms? And you know what. Verbluffen could you choose someone else? I accept Kryskov as Austria.

Yeah. As long as we remain allies I'm fine on whoever your King is. Just as it isn't another Hapsburg like Charles.

:rofl: Okay. No more uglies.


Kryskov wrote:
Valentir wrote:So do you and France accept my terms? And you know what. Verbluffen could you choose someone else? I accept Kryskov as Austria.

Sure. But could I switch Flanders for Milan?

Eh, I guess.
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:56 am

Epraria wrote:But really I don't want a goddamn giant war ok guys?

The Great Northern War doesn't even have to happen. This is alt history.
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:57 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Epraria wrote:But really I don't want a goddamn giant war ok guys?

The Great Northern War doesn't even have to happen. This is alt history.

I Know and that is why I just want the other northern European nations to leave me alone. I wont invade you guys.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:57 am

So, should I have Charles kick the bucket now and make the Treaty Terms?
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:58 am

Valentir wrote:So, should I have Charles kick the bucket now and make the Treaty Terms?

What treaty?
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Postby Kryskov » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:59 am

Valentir wrote:So, should I have Charles kick the bucket now and make the Treaty Terms?

Sure
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:59 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Valentir wrote:So, should I have Charles kick the bucket now and make the Treaty Terms?

What treaty?

A treaty between France, Austria, and Spain allowing a new Spanish Dynasty to form with these terms:

1: A New Spanish dynasty will be founded, free of the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons.
2: This Dynasty will inherent all of the lands held by the current Spanish Crown, however Milan will go to the Austrian Hapsburgs.
3: The Kingdom of France and the Austrian Empire will not have any ties or claims to the New Spain Throne.
4: This New Dynasty is free to marry into any dynasty it wishes and is free to conduct it's own Royal Affairs, being free of Bourbon and Hapsburg Influence
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:00 am

Valentir wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:What treaty?

A treaty between France, Austria, and Spain allowing a new Spanish Dynasty to form with these terms:

1: A New Spanish dynasty will be founded, free of the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons.
2: This Dynasty will inherent all of the lands held by the current Spanish Crown, however Milan will go to the Austrian Hapsburgs.
3: The Kingdom of France and the Austrian Empire will not have any ties or claims to the New Spain Throne.
4: This New Dynasty is free to marry into any dynasty it wishes and is free to conduct it's own Royal Affairs, being free of Bourbon and Hapsburg Influence

Who will this mysterious new dynasty be?
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:02 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Valentir wrote:A treaty between France, Austria, and Spain allowing a new Spanish Dynasty to form with these terms:

1: A New Spanish dynasty will be founded, free of the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons.
2: This Dynasty will inherent all of the lands held by the current Spanish Crown, however Milan will go to the Austrian Hapsburgs.
3: The Kingdom of France and the Austrian Empire will not have any ties or claims to the New Spain Throne.
4: This New Dynasty is free to marry into any dynasty it wishes and is free to conduct it's own Royal Affairs, being free of Bourbon and Hapsburg Influence

Who will this mysterious new dynasty be?

It will be the House of Segovia. Carlos III will be the new King. And there will be Prince Ferdinand of Segovia and a new House entirely, free of the bourbons or hapsburgs.
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:04 am

Valentir wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:Who will this mysterious new dynasty be?

It will be the House of Segovia. Carlos III will be the new King. And there will be Prince Ferdinand of Segovia and a new House entirely, free of the bourbons or hapsburgs.

Just so I know, will any of these people be willing to marry Princess Luise Dorothea of Hohenzollern? She needs to marry someone and I would prefer it to be a player nation.
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:04 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Valentir wrote:It will be the House of Segovia. Carlos III will be the new King. And there will be Prince Ferdinand of Segovia and a new House entirely, free of the bourbons or hapsburgs.

Just so I know, will any of these people be willing to marry Princess Luise Dorothea of Hohenzollern? She needs to marry someone and I would prefer it to be a player in this RP.

Meh, maybe.
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Postby Umonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:05 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Valentir wrote:It will be the House of Segovia. Carlos III will be the new King. And there will be Prince Ferdinand of Segovia and a new House entirely, free of the bourbons or hapsburgs.

Just so I know, will any of these people be willing to marry Princess Luise Dorothea of Hohenzollern? She needs to marry someone and I would prefer it to be a player nation.

She could marry a Venetian Noble
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:06 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Valentir wrote:It will be the House of Segovia. Carlos III will be the new King. And there will be Prince Ferdinand of Segovia and a new House entirely, free of the bourbons or hapsburgs.

Just so I know, will any of these people be willing to marry Princess Luise Dorothea of Hohenzollern? She needs to marry someone and I would prefer it to be a player nation.

If you're looking for someone to marry her to. I've got Philip V, Louis XIV's Grandson, the would be King of Spain if the Succession War had happened and ended how it did historically.
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The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:07 am

Has anybody read an Astrid Lindgren book at some point?
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I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Krintzaika » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:07 am

Epraria wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:The Great Northern War doesn't even have to happen. This is alt history.

I Know and that is why I just want the other northern European nations to leave me alone. I wont invade you guys.


Epraria, I want Estonia, latvia, and Northern Lithuania, and the area around St. Petersburg too, Allowing me to purchase those territories will lessen the chance of war.
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:08 am

Krintzaika wrote:
Epraria wrote:I Know and that is why I just want the other northern European nations to leave me alone. I wont invade you guys.


Epraria, I want Estonia, latvia, and Northern Lithuania, and the area around St. Petersburg too, Allowing me to purchase those territories will lessen the chance of war.

:eyebrow: Do you think I will just give away all those territories like that?
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc
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Jamessonia
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:09 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:Just so I know, will any of these people be willing to marry Princess Luise Dorothea of Hohenzollern? She needs to marry someone and I would prefer it to be a player nation.

If you're looking for someone to marry her to. I've got Philip V, Louis XIV's Grandson, the would be King of Spain if the Succession War had happened and ended how it did historically.

We'll leave him on the back burner for now, I think the King of Sweden might be interested. Would he Ep?
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“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.”
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- Max Stirner
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