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Who will win the Northern War?

1: Sweden and it's allies
11
30%
2: Denmark-Norway and it's allies
4
11%
3: Spain conquers the World and enslaves both of them
0
No votes
4: France and Spain both do number 3 together
5
14%
5: We all die because the sky begins to rain cheese
17
46%
 
Total votes : 37

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Jamessonia
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:31 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:I just edited out the part about the Pope and inserted something about you being ridiculed and diplomatically ruined.

Editted.

What?
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:32 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Valentir wrote:Well he is not Austria. There are two people wanting to be Austria. And however is Austria won't get my throne. That is for damn sure. I will take a Bourbon over an Austrian. Of course Austria could let me do my own thing but either way they won't get their way. As this is an ALT RP Charles II could not die so easily and he could even produce an heir.

Fuck it! Give those two a civil war! The Austrians in the HRE, and the Austrians outside of it!

Umm, no. In fact I'm in half a mind to put Louis XIV on the throne and raise a massive army to put under his command. Anything better than an Austrian. Oh and haha, Austria I will give you Flanders and Milan if you let me choose my King and he will not be French but will not be bound to the Hapsburgs.

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Jamessonia
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:33 am

I think at least 6-9 months have passed so far.
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:34 am

Jamessonia wrote:I think at least 6-9 months have passed so far.

No. It is 4 months every page of IC posts.
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Postby Kryskov » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:34 am

Valentir wrote:1: My own RP thing.
2: Ahem this is an alt RP. I could put a commoner on the throne. Though I won't.

"Everything until now has been historical."

And, also according to the above, if the regent is a cousin of Charles, he is either the King of France, HRE (me), or another Hapsburg.

And good luck producing an heir with one testicle as black as carbon.

And I would be more than happy to allow a non-Hapsburg king in Spain. I only want to be sure that the succession is clearly thought out. And sure, I would take Flanders and Milan.

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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:35 am

Valentir wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:I think at least 6-9 months have passed so far.

No. It is 4 months every page of IC posts.

That is impossible. It takes way longer than that to get a message from Prussia to Spain and back, let alone all this other communication!
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:35 am

Valentir wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:I think at least 6-9 months have passed so far.

No. It is 4 months every page of IC posts.

What's that I see in the distance? THE GREAT NORTHERN WAR IS COMING!
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:36 am

Kryskov wrote:
Valentir wrote:1: My own RP thing.
2: Ahem this is an alt RP. I could put a commoner on the throne. Though I won't.

"Everything until now has been historical."

And, also according to the above, if the regent is a cousin of Charles, he is either the King of France, HRE (me), or another Hapsburg.

And good luck producing an heir with one testicle as black as carbon.

And I would be more than happy to allow a non-Hapsburg king in Spain. I only want to be sure that the succession is clearly thought out. And sure, I would take Flanders and Milan.

I will not put a Bourbon on the throne. And I want to create a new Spanish Dynasty. Of course we could be friends with the Hapsburg, but if they butt in and try to create a scene then no. And well now that I think of it would Milan be okay? I have another use for Flanders.

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Postby Saragrossa » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:37 am

Valentir wrote:
Kryskov wrote:"Everything until now has been historical."

And, also according to the above, if the regent is a cousin of Charles, he is either the King of France, HRE (me), or another Hapsburg.

And good luck producing an heir with one testicle as black as carbon.

And I would be more than happy to allow a non-Hapsburg king in Spain. I only want to be sure that the succession is clearly thought out. And sure, I would take Flanders and Milan.

I will not put a Bourbon on the throne. And I want to create a new Spanish Dynasty. Of course we could be friends with the Hapsburg, but if they butt in and try to create a scene then no. And well now that I think of it would Milan be okay? I have another use for Flanders.


If you make a new dynasty? What stops other families from seeking civil war to install a burbon after you?
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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:37 am

What about Hohenzollern? As I have previously stated, I have a lovely (single) daughter!
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:41 am

In fact here was what I was thinking.
1: A New Spanish dynasty will be founded, free of the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons.
2: This Dynasty will inherent all of the lands held by the current Spanish Crown, however Flanders will go to the Austrian Hapsburgs.
3: The Kingdom of France and the Austrian Empire will not have any ties or claims to the New Spain Throne.
4: This New Dynasty is free to marry into any dynasty it wishes and is free to conduct it's own Royal Affairs, being free of Bourbon and Hapsburg Influence
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:41 am

Saragrossa wrote:
Valentir wrote:I will not put a Bourbon on the throne. And I want to create a new Spanish Dynasty. Of course we could be friends with the Hapsburg, but if they butt in and try to create a scene then no. And well now that I think of it would Milan be okay? I have another use for Flanders.


If you make a new dynasty? What stops other families from seeking civil war to install a burbon after you?

I'm sorry, are you even a player here?

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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:42 am

Valentir wrote:In fact here was what I was thinking.
1: A New Spanish dynasty will be founded, free of the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons.
2: This Dynasty will inherent all of the lands held by the current Spanish Crown, however Flanders will go to the Austrian Hapsburgs.
3: The Kingdom of France, and the Austrian Empire will not have any ties or claims to the New Spain Throne.
4: This New Dynasty is free to marry into any dynasty it wishes and is free to conduct it's own Royal Affiars, being free of Bourbon and Hapsburg Influence

Need a new heir? Why not Hohenzollern (Prussian royal family)?
Also, what about the time thing?
Last edited by Max Stirner on Thu June 26, 1856, edited 48 times in total.
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"I shall find enough anyhow who unite with me without swearing allegiance to my flag."
- Max Stirner

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Postby Kryskov » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:42 am

Sure, I have no use for Flanders. If I am accepted as Austria, I could have my son Joseph have a fall out with his father and leave the Hapsburg line and he could rule Spain. I plan on killing off Leopold anyways, and Charles would be apathetic towards his brother.

Wait, I want Milan.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:43 am

Saragrossa wrote:
Valentir wrote:I will not put a Bourbon on the throne. And I want to create a new Spanish Dynasty. Of course we could be friends with the Hapsburg, but if they butt in and try to create a scene then no. And well now that I think of it would Milan be okay? I have another use for Flanders.


If you make a new dynasty? What stops other families from seeking civil war to install a burbon after you?

Who is going to install a Bourbon?
Me? I'm the only nation in Europe, as far as I know, with a Bourbon Dynasty. I also wouldn't support a bunch of rebellious nobles in an attempt to coup the Spaniards
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:44 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Valentir wrote:No. It is 4 months every page of IC posts.

What's that I see in the distance? THE GREAT NORTHERN WAR IS COMING!

Don't force me to take Warsaw pole.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:45 am

Jamessonia wrote:
Valentir wrote:In fact here was what I was thinking.
1: A New Spanish dynasty will be founded, free of the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons.
2: This Dynasty will inherent all of the lands held by the current Spanish Crown, however Flanders will go to the Austrian Hapsburgs.
3: The Kingdom of France, and the Austrian Empire will not have any ties or claims to the New Spain Throne.
4: This New Dynasty is free to marry into any dynasty it wishes and is free to conduct it's own Royal Affiars, being free of Bourbon and Hapsburg Influence

Need a new heir? Why not Hohenzollern (Prussian royal family)?
Also, what about the time thing?

Nah. I have a current candidate in mind.
Well
I guess each page 6 Months?


Kryskov wrote:Sure, I have no use for Flanders. If I am accepted as Austria, I could have my son Joseph have a fall out with his father and leave the Hapsburg line and he could rule Spain. I plan on killing off Leopold anyways, and Charles would be apathetic towards his brother.

Wait, I want Milan.

I already have a new guy for the new dynasty. But thanks for the offer.
I would like to keep Milan please. But perhaps we can negotiate that separately? Oh and I will give Verbluffen a day more.

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:45 am

Epraria wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:What's that I see in the distance? THE GREAT NORTHERN WAR IS COMING!

Don't force me to take Warsaw pole.

The War will be fought hard and bloody, Swede.
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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:47 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Epraria wrote:Don't force me to take Warsaw pole.

The War will be fought hard and bloody, Swede.

Ha the Swedish army is superior to the polish army at this age.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Jamessonia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:48 am

I think we have to decide between having a strict time rule, and therefore slower pace, or sacrifice pace for a strict time rule. I am in favor of the first. We should just let time advance as it will. Everyone has to remember that a round trip messenger to another European country takes 1-2 months.
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:48 am

Epraria wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:The War will be fought hard and bloody, Swede.

Ha the Swedish army is superior to the polish army at this age.

Blasphemy! Have this man flogged!
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Postby Krintzaika » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:49 am

Epraria wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:The War will be fought hard and bloody, Swede.

Ha the Swedish army is superior to the polish army at this age.


Sweden shall fear meh troops, they may be good, but when the Battle of Poltava happens, I go Babushka on your ass.
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Postby Valentir » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:49 am

Jamessonia wrote:I think we have to decide between having a strict time rule, and therefore slower pace, or sacrifice pace for a strict time rule. I am in favor of the first. We should just let time advance as it will. Everyone has to remember that a round trip messenger to another European country takes 1-2 months.

That allows people to take advantage of that system. I want a set system that cannot be manipulated.

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Postby Kryskov » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:49 am

Valentir wrote:I already have a new guy for the new dynasty. But thanks for the offer.
I would like to keep Milan please. But perhaps we can negotiate that separately? Oh and I will give Verbluffen a day more.

Well, I really wouldn't like Flanders...that would mean actively investing in a navy.

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Postby Epraria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:50 am

Krintzaika wrote:
Epraria wrote:Ha the Swedish army is superior to the polish army at this age.


Sweden shall fear meh troops, they may be good, but when the Battle of Poltava happens, I go Babushka on your ass.

:rofl: Like I will go into Russia. I am not an idiot. The defeat at Poltava was caused by several things like the fact that most of the swedes of the invading army had died due to famine and winter when they arrived.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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