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Who will win the Northern War?

1: Sweden and it's allies
11
30%
2: Denmark-Norway and it's allies
4
11%
3: Spain conquers the World and enslaves both of them
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No votes
4: France and Spain both do number 3 together
5
14%
5: We all die because the sky begins to rain cheese
17
46%
 
Total votes : 37

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:25 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Alleniana wrote:So you are on my side?
That's good.

Would anybody else be willing to join me in case of war with Denmark? England perhaps? I'd give lots of benefits.

My 10,000 horsemen shall trample the Russians! Wow, 1/2 of my professional force is made of cavalry, the cavalry is 1/6 of the total army size...I think that's a bit too many for the time frame.

What about Denmark?

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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:32 am

Alleniana wrote:So, basically, Russia and Denmark want to fight me, while everybody else is a shade of neutral.

Well the Dutch navy could help you. If profit is to be made.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:38 am

Epraria wrote:
Alleniana wrote:So, basically, Russia and Denmark want to fight me, while everybody else is a shade of neutral.

Well the Dutch navy could help you. If profit is to be made.

You can demand lots of concessions; all their few colonies, and lots of money, though you may have to split the money with Poland if they join in. I will demand only land.

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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:43 am

Alleniana wrote:
Epraria wrote:Well the Dutch navy could help you. If profit is to be made.

You can demand lots of concessions; all their few colonies, and lots of money, though you may have to split the money with Poland if they join in. I will demand only land.

Hm you are interesting the Dutch now. We would be interested in taking the Danish colonies and removing a rival in the northern seas.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:44 am

Epraria wrote:
Alleniana wrote:You can demand lots of concessions; all their few colonies, and lots of money, though you may have to split the money with Poland if they join in. I will demand only land.

Hm you are interesting the Dutch now. We would be interested in taking the Danish colonies and removing a rival in the northern seas.

Ok. So, if you join:
You recieve all Danish/Norwegian colonies.
You may demand some other territories you feel you should receive (there are always little random islands to demand)
You receive a large portion of reparations.

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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:46 am

:rofl: Sweden, Poland-Lithuania, and the United Provinces going against Denmark-Norway and possibly Russia? Oh France, we gotta get in on this. I will support Russia.

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Epraria
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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:49 am

Valentir wrote::rofl: Sweden, Poland-Lithuania, and the United Provinces going against Denmark-Norway and possibly Russia? Oh France, we gotta get in on this. I will support Russia.

Weren't you allied to Sweden?
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


Founding Member of LAVMEO
My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:49 am

Valentir wrote::rofl: Sweden, Poland-Lithuania, and the United Provinces going against Denmark-Norway and possibly Russia? Oh France, we gotta get in on this. I will support Russia.

Why would you support Russia? In fact, why join the war at all?

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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:50 am

Alleniana wrote:
Epraria wrote:Hm you are interesting the Dutch now. We would be interested in taking the Danish colonies and removing a rival in the northern seas.

Ok. So, if you join:
You recieve all Danish/Norwegian colonies.
You may demand some other territories you feel you should receive (there are always little random islands to demand)
You receive a large portion of reparations.

Send this as a secret treaty to the dutch.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


Founding Member of LAVMEO
My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:50 am

Epraria wrote:
Valentir wrote::rofl: Sweden, Poland-Lithuania, and the United Provinces going against Denmark-Norway and possibly Russia? Oh France, we gotta get in on this. I will support Russia.

Weren't you allied to Sweden?

I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.


Alleniana wrote:
Valentir wrote::rofl: Sweden, Poland-Lithuania, and the United Provinces going against Denmark-Norway and possibly Russia? Oh France, we gotta get in on this. I will support Russia.

Why would you support Russia? In fact, why join the war at all?

Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

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Epraria
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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:52 am

Valentir wrote:
Epraria wrote:Weren't you allied to Sweden?

I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.


Alleniana wrote:Why would you support Russia? In fact, why join the war at all?

Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

Weak ally if you support the enemy of your ally.
Last edited by Epraria on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


Founding Member of LAVMEO
My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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Emilio Aguinaldo
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:53 am

Valentir wrote:
Epraria wrote:Weren't you allied to Sweden?

I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.


Alleniana wrote:Why would you support Russia? In fact, why join the war at all?

Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

*cough* Spolier alert! Japan defeats Russia in the Russo-Japanese war.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:54 am

Valentir wrote:
Epraria wrote:Weren't you allied to Sweden?

I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.


Alleniana wrote:Why would you support Russia? In fact, why join the war at all?

Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

:eyebrow:
You don't stand to gain ANYTHING. You are a south-western colonial power. I am north-eastern land power. My strength is on land with some in sea, yours mostly in sea with some on land. I have no colonies (that I know of) and unless you force me to cede mainland, you can't gain anything but a small payment, because I would endeavour to pay the most to the immediate threats to placate them.

So, good logic, and good luck.

Oh, and France, will you ally with me? We can pwn all the German states in whatever fashion we like if we unite.
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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:55 am

Epraria wrote:
Valentir wrote:I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.



Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

Weak ally if they support the enemy of the ally.

No, strong ally, just to those who suit my interests. Sweden has the potential to become a major commercial threat. Meanwhile Russia does not possess that potential. Well it does but it couldn't really surpass me Commercially.




Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Valentir wrote:I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.



Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

*cough* Spolier alert! Japan defeats Russia in the Russo-Japanese war.

And? That has nothing to do with the Great Northern War and is irrelevant as it may never happen.


Alleniana wrote:
Valentir wrote:I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.



Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

:eyebrow:
You don't stand to gain ANYTHING. You are a south-western colonial power. I am north-eastern land power. My strength is on land with some in sea, yours mostly in sea with some on land. I have no colonies (that I know of) and unless you force me to cede mainland, you can't gain anything but a small payment, because I would endeavour to pay the most to the immediate threats to placate them.

So, good logic, and good luck.

Who said I'm committing troops? Fighting isn't the only way to win a war. I'm more funding and training Russia's Armies to fight you.

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Liberated Counties
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Postby Liberated Counties » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:56 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Valentir wrote:I still am. But I will be supporting Russia in a war.



Because Russia is a better ally than Sweden.
Geopolitics and Imperialism.

*cough* Spolier alert! Japan defeats Russia in the Russo-Japanese war.


Spoiler Alert: Russia gets infected by the communist parasite

Russia doesn't have much fun in regards to history.. :(
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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:57 am

Liberated Counties wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:*cough* Spolier alert! Japan defeats Russia in the Russo-Japanese war.


Spoiler Alert: Russia gets infected by the communist parasite

Russia doesn't have much fun in regards to history.. :(

Stupid Bolsheviks. Fucking murderers of Tsar Nicholas II. Then again the Tsar has blood on his hands as well.

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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:58 am

Quite frankly the only support Russia will get from me is Money, Military Expertise, and Spanish Generals training Russian Armies. I will endorse Russia, but will not be in the war itself, just on the outside playing around and doing my own thing.

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Emilio Aguinaldo
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:59 am

Valentir wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:
Spoiler Alert: Russia gets infected by the communist parasite

Russia doesn't have much fun in regards to history.. :(

Stupid Bolsheviks. Fucking murderers of Tsar Nicholas II. Then again the Tsar has blood on his hands as well.

After looking at my family line, it turns out Lenin is my relative...a very, very, very far one obviously.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:00 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Valentir wrote:Stupid Bolsheviks. Fucking murderers of Tsar Nicholas II. Then again the Tsar has blood on his hands as well.

After looking at my family line, it turns out Lenin is my relative...a very, very, very far one obviously.

:meh: Well, this changes quite a bit. Well, have fun with that. I will hold my opinions on Lenin and such to myself.

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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:00 am

Valentir wrote:Quite frankly the only support Russia will get from me is Money, Military Expertise, and Spanish Generals training Russian Armies. I will endorse Russia, but will not be in the war itself, just on the outside playing around and doing my own thing.

Are you going to send el blazo?
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


Founding Member of LAVMEO
My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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Postby Liberated Counties » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:01 am

Valentir wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:
Spoiler Alert: Russia gets infected by the communist parasite

Russia doesn't have much fun in regards to history.. :(

Stupid Bolsheviks. Fucking murderers of Tsar Nicholas II. Then again the Tsar has blood on his hands as well.


The chain of Tsars was a great one, with Nicholas being the weak link. It was really a shame.

After watching and reading Anna Karenina, I've taken a liking to the Russian Empire. :p
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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:02 am

Epraria wrote:
Valentir wrote:Quite frankly the only support Russia will get from me is Money, Military Expertise, and Spanish Generals training Russian Armies. I will endorse Russia, but will not be in the war itself, just on the outside playing around and doing my own thing.

Are you going to send el blazo?

Who?



Liberated Counties wrote:
Valentir wrote:Stupid Bolsheviks. Fucking murderers of Tsar Nicholas II. Then again the Tsar has blood on his hands as well.


The chain of Tsars was a great one, with Nicholas being the weak link. It was really a shame.

After watching and reading Anna Karenina, I've taken a liking to the Russian Empire. :p

I have this current fascination with Catherine the Great and the Russian Empire myself.

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Postby Epraria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:02 am

Liberated Counties wrote:
Valentir wrote:Stupid Bolsheviks. Fucking murderers of Tsar Nicholas II. Then again the Tsar has blood on his hands as well.


The chain of Tsars was a great one, with Nicholas being the weak link. It was really a shame.

After watching and reading Anna Karenina, I've taken a liking to the Russian Empire. :p

Even more than austria-hungary?
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
I am Spanish so don't ever expect me to have anything close to perfect grammar.
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


Founding Member of LAVMEO
My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:03 am

Valentir wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:After looking at my family line, it turns out Lenin is my relative...a very, very, very far one obviously.

:meh: Well, this changes quite a bit. Well, have fun with that. I will hold my opinions on Lenin and such to myself.

I'm related to a bloody murderer! <sarcasm> Hooray! </sarcasm>
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:Grab your gun, point it at bad guy, pull trigger.

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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:03 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Valentir wrote: :meh: Well, this changes quite a bit. Well, have fun with that. I will hold my opinions on Lenin and such to myself.

I'm related to a bloody murderer! <sarcasm> Hooray! </sarcasm>

:meh: :unsure: :o >:( :eyebrow: :blink: :( :mad:

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