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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:58 pm

The Blazing Aura wrote:Britcan, could you update the map, I've expanded into the four kingdoms that roughly make up South Sudan (or to be more precise the four kingdoms to the south of Sudan)

A map update is in progress

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Carbarosia
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Postby Carbarosia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:09 pm

Britcan wrote:
The Blazing Aura wrote:Britcan, could you update the map, I've expanded into the four kingdoms that roughly make up South Sudan (or to be more precise the four kingdoms to the south of Sudan)

A map update is in progress


Can you fill the cyan, working on a post for this now: http://i.imgur.com/K5mTakN.jpg

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Carbarosia wrote:Kherkov, may I ask: why does Sparta hate Spain so much and what would I have to do to come on good terms with them? :p

Isabella isn't a warmonger, she simply wants to expand trading and make it easier to trade internationally.


Give me Hispaniola, leave the Caribbean to me, and don't try and expand into North America.


Well, looks like Sparta may not be friendly with Spain after all. :blush:
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Postby Landenburg » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:19 pm

Britcan wrote:
The Blazing Aura wrote:Britcan, could you update the map, I've expanded into the four kingdoms that roughly make up South Sudan (or to be more precise the four kingdoms to the south of Sudan)

A map update is in progress

Don't forget that Japan took Manchuria! :D

(and the unclaimed Russian coast)
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Carbarosia
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Postby Carbarosia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:25 pm

I do not believe this. When I loaded a new page this stupid computer and the internet along with it reloaded all the pages and I lost a post addressing the expansion AND the letters. Do you mind if I post it tomorrow?
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Carbarosia wrote:Well, looks like Sparta may not be friendly with Spain after all. :blush:


As I thought :p
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:27 pm

Carbarosia wrote:I do not believe this. When I loaded a new page this stupid computer and the internet along with it reloaded all the pages and I lost a post addressing the expansion AND the letters. Do you mind if I post it tomorrow?


That's fine. You really should do it on Word or a word processing program first.
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Blassland
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Postby Blassland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:29 pm

a) I wasn't being serious with the first paragraph, what I said about the military numbers is true, but I wouldn't actually break the non-aggression pact unless you did something drastically wrong. b) Border forts are called border forts for a reason, besides I could still defend the cities if need be. c) those cities each have their own militia, that's a force of 20,000 stationed in their region before you even start to add reinforcements, and because I'm on the defensive I have the upper hand. d) You're not the only person who's getting areas industrialized, I already have areas of industry else how would I be able to have such a large armed professional and conscription force, you can't get over a million muskets through trade alone. e) this is all hypothetical, the paragraph you're basing this on is one in which I'm not being entirely serious, hell I'm known for not being entirely serious. f) I have the ability to occupy as much land as I could, once again you're trying to make up my limits for me, something you can't reasonably do. g) if you're pulling more men into the fight who's going to be running the factories you need to run to get stronger? h) I'll also be stronger, once again you're not the only person advancing in this RP. i) you're assuming that if I did invade I'd do so down south, as you've pointed out you're more important areas (including your capital and main industrialized area) is in Northern Iran and the Southern Caucuses, yet another place near my border that I could take, if I did that's leave you broken and beaten without a leader, you on the other hand have to march through a lot of desert to get near my capital city and in that time I could call back a lot of forces to defend it. You're at a lot more of a disadvantage than me in this one,

But I will once again stress that that first paragraph wasn't me being entirely serious, I do want to open up communications with Kershya, and what I said about military numbers is true if you read you're app your max at wartime is 48,000 my max at peacetime is 50,000. I don't want to be seen as threatening you but I am asking you to stand down from your claims of occupied land that you're sole reason for claiming is little more than not understanding that if someone applied for that land it is their's never mind if you sent an army towards it or not.
Oh and FYI I'm not fooling around in Africa, no more than you are, I'm not only expanding my land into more temperate and richer climates I'm also gaining land which once taken and fortified will mean that the Red Sea and thereby my main anchor point is nigh on impenetrable, whilst both places you can anchor your fleet are still open to attack.

oh and need I remind you that massing forces near my border is a breach of our non-aggression pact.

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A)I am relieved, although I didn't take your word as gospel I did deem it worthy of acknowledgement
B) A large portion of your military is busy in Africa
C) Point acknowledged
D) Industrialization is the main focus of my nation currently (with large European support), your nation seems to be more focused on expansion in Africa at the moment
E) Again I am relieved
F) No nation at the moment has the ability to successfully occupy all of my lands, the same goes for you
G) Around half of my population is male, my army is nowhere near 3.4 million strong so there are plenty of non-fighting men to go around
H) I am not ignoring all advancement of other nations, my post was concerning our two nations in particular. I am growing drastically more modern, but not as large
I) Between the Zagros Mountains and the Caucasus all my soldiers have to do is dig in and fight a guerilla war with full industrial support from the HSE and it`s allies, geographically speaking I am as well defended by natural borders as you are. An offensive war against state-supported guerillas in mountains that run from the Persian Gulf to the Black sea is unwinnable, not that I would have the ability to make much offensive action

You can see that I am re-organizing the military drastically. The Persian Gulf is practically owned by me, I am just as powerful as you are in the Black Sea.
Note: I am responding to your points, aggression is not wanted at all
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Postby Carbarosia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:30 pm

Kherkov wrote:
Carbarosia wrote:I do not believe this. When I loaded a new page this stupid computer and the internet along with it reloaded all the pages and I lost a post addressing the expansion AND the letters. Do you mind if I post it tomorrow?


That's fine. You really should do it on Word or a word processing program first.


Yes, that is what I may do from now on. I usually copy it so when the forum logs you off automatically you don't lose it but that didn't happen this time. Instead opening one page reloaded all the pages and showed the forums in a really plain, simple look.
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Postby Kaamnaayein » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:34 pm

Blassland, the people of the Maldives were historically Islamic. I understand that this is alt-history, but if you are going to change the people of the Maldives to be Hindu, I am going to have to take issue with their subjugation by an Islamic nation.
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Blassland
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Postby Blassland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:36 pm

Britcan,
No rush, but I have established colonies on Northern Madagascar and the Maldives. Whenever the map is updated please incorporate those colonies. Also what is the result of the newest China app?
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Kherkov
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:36 pm

Carbarosia wrote:
Kherkov wrote:
That's fine. You really should do it on Word or a word processing program first.


Yes, that is what I may do from now on. I usually copy it so when the forum logs you off automatically you don't lose it but that didn't happen this time. Instead opening one page reloaded all the pages and showed the forums in a really plain, simple look.


Ah. I have all my posts saved from all the numerous RPs I've been in. There's a lot of folders.
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Blassland
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Postby Blassland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:39 pm

Kaamnaayein wrote:Blassland, the people of the Maldives were historically Islamic. I understand that this is alt-history, but if you are going to change the people of the Maldives to be Hindu, I am going to have to take issue with their subjugation by an Islamic nation.

Wow, this is going to sound REALLY bad, but I simply assumed they were Hindu because they were geographically nearer to India than the middle east. I do know Islam spread in Indonesia and the surrounding islands, so I am not totally ignorant. From now on I am going to do more reading on the people I colonize. Consider them the Islamic, because I am about to edit my post.
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Postby Carbarosia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:41 pm

Kherkov wrote:
Carbarosia wrote:
Yes, that is what I may do from now on. I usually copy it so when the forum logs you off automatically you don't lose it but that didn't happen this time. Instead opening one page reloaded all the pages and showed the forums in a really plain, simple look.


Ah. I have all my posts saved from all the numerous RPs I've been in. There's a lot of folders.


Wow. I can't afford that space as my Mac is almost full, about 5GB left or something.
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Kherkov
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:43 pm

Carbarosia wrote:
Kherkov wrote:
Ah. I have all my posts saved from all the numerous RPs I've been in. There's a lot of folders.


Wow. I can't afford that space as my Mac is almost full, about 5GB left or something.


How much space do you have total?
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Postby Blassland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:55 pm

Assuming Sweden acts realistically the only nations they would marry into would be Great Britain or Prussia (protestant Christians). I am correct in assuming those are the only officially protestant nations, right?
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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:01 pm

Blassland wrote:Assuming Sweden acts realistically the only nations they would marry into would be Great Britain or Prussia (protestant Christians). I am correct in assuming those are the only officially protestant nations, right?

The King is a practical man, he'll marry whoever will gain the nation the most.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:03 pm

Blassland wrote:Assuming Sweden acts realistically the only nations they would marry into would be Great Britain or Prussia (protestant Christians). I am correct in assuming those are the only officially protestant nations, right?


And the Hansa, but we're a republic.
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Leo X
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Postby Leo X » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:07 pm

@Blassland: No, because the Stuarts were Catholics even though a large amount of the population were Protestants.
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Postby Fortunagen » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:08 pm

Britcan wrote:
Blassland wrote:Assuming Sweden acts realistically the only nations they would marry into would be Great Britain or Prussia (protestant Christians). I am correct in assuming those are the only officially protestant nations, right?

The King is a practical man, he'll marry whoever will gain the nation the most.

This whole marriage thing has got me thinking, what if I sent a female shipbuilder that is studying international naval vessels for the creation of my Atlantic Fleet into Sweden, because Sweden's naval prowess, and there she happens to meet the King and they fall in love, etc. My Consular gives full support, a big ceremony, cheers and claps, and just like that we have ourselves an international marriage.
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Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


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Kherkov
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:09 pm

To all those invited to the conference in Sparta:

The conference thread will be up tomorrow. I shall provide a link on this thread and the IC.
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Postby Halleon » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:10 pm

Khervo is Sparta gonna help out Transdanubia?
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Postby Fortunagen » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:11 pm

Halleon wrote:Khervo is Sparta gonna help out Transdanubia?

I intend on making a speech about that in the conference, if no one objects. ;)
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Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


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Kherkov
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:12 pm

Halleon wrote:Khervo is Sparta gonna help out Transdanubia?


Yes. We hope the Pact will too.
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Postby Ublia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:12 pm

Damn Swiss and Prussians....
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:14 pm

Invited Nations:
Please check, as some invited have not yet responded.

Sweden
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Rome
Occitania
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Mali
Russia (UT is away for a week so...)
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