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Ublia
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Postby Ublia » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:52 pm

Everyone loving Transdanubia?
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Kherkov
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Postby Kherkov » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:59 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
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Having said this, a few cannons, well drilled strong men, and some grapeshot could really pack a punch with a lot of soldiers trying to rush a narrow entrance.


Canister shot is more effective- it turns the cannon into a giant shotgun.


Similar to grapeshot, which is the naval version. Now I remember.
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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:24 pm

Nobody wants trade/alliances with Japan..?

okay....

._.
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Acroticus
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Postby Acroticus » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:26 pm

Landenburg wrote:Nobody wants trade/alliances with Japan..?

okay....

._.


I does. Perhaps the Japanese could send an envoy at some point.

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Kherkov
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Postby Kherkov » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:33 pm

Landenburg wrote:Nobody wants trade/alliances with Japan..?

okay....

._.


I did say might take you up on the offer. But you are pretty far away at this time. Depends what we can work out.
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Advelard
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Postby Advelard » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:44 pm

Nation Name: Military State of Alaska
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Claims: All of Alaska
Form of Government: Dictatorship
Head of State: Captain Richard Louis
Capital City: Anchorage
Population: 100,000 (including all the people in the native villages)
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime at most) 2,500
Military Type: (briefly describe what your military is like) Highly disciplined in guerrilla warfare, excellent in camoflauge, horrible at head-on attacks, great at defences
Naval Strength: (briefly describe how strong your navy is) only a few ships-of-the-line, two capitol ships, the rest are frigates and third-rate ships of the line
Economic Strength: (briefly describe how wealthy your nation is) trade furs and gold, medium wealth
Land Routes: (briefly describe how well your nation's cities are connected with roads) only dirt roads, no major transportation system
Sea Routes (briefly describe how well your nation's ports are connected by sea) excellently
Primary Goals: To preserve the land of Alaska and to ally with other nations
History: (from where history changes for your nation) Instead of the Russians who colonized Alaska, the natives currently living there fought back, and created their own movement. Some Russians decided to join them, teaching them how to create muskets and trade furs and gold better.
RP Example: (this is a puppet nation of The New Earth Coalition) USS Vanguard, Dragon Rider Academy, Klingon-Romulan Civil War

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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:51 pm

Acroticus wrote:
Landenburg wrote:Nobody wants trade/alliances with Japan..?

okay....

._.


I does. Perhaps the Japanese could send an envoy at some point.

I sent out colonists. 2/3 Days irl and we can officially meet.
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Acroticus
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Postby Acroticus » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:01 pm

Landenburg wrote:
Acroticus wrote:
I does. Perhaps the Japanese could send an envoy at some point.

I sent out colonists. 2/3 Days irl and we can officially meet.


I wouldn't expect a colony....

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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:14 pm

Acroticus wrote:
Landenburg wrote:I sent out colonists. 2/3 Days irl and we can officially meet.


I wouldn't expect a colony....

Only in Hawaii. Maybe Alaska.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:23 pm

I'll be going to sleep soon, so if anyone offers me a trade deal/makes a treaty request/threatens an ultimatum while I'm gone, don't assume my lack of a response means I'm rejecting the negotiations.
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Blassland
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:35 pm

Halleon wrote:Only problem with small mercantile nations is sometimes your not taken serious or you get blocked from getting colonies.

Not if they had a large navy, the Dutch empire is a perfect example
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Sil Arion
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Postby Sil Arion » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:37 pm

This RP has definitely caught my interest! If at all possible, I'd like to reserve China for an imperial-style government alike to the one or more of the famous Chinese dynasties. My app will come soon, but please allow me to reserve the current RL territory of China. Until then, cheers!
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Halleon
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Postby Halleon » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:52 pm

Blassland wrote:
Halleon wrote:Only problem with small mercantile nations is sometimes your not taken serious or you get blocked from getting colonies.

Not if they had a large navy, the Dutch empire is a perfect example


Compare the Dutch to The Hanseatic Republic of Livonia though and the Dutch are in a way better condition. The Dutch wasn't in a position to be blocked as easily as Livonia and even then the Dutch wasn't always taken seriously.
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Blassland
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Sil Arion wrote:This RP has definitely caught my interest! If at all possible, I'd like to reserve China for an imperial-style government alike to the one or more of the famous Chinese dynasties. My app will come soon, but please allow me to reserve the current RL territory of China. Until then, cheers!

Glad you want to join, many people have already applied for china but have been rejected because China would have too large land control and too large of a population
I would suggest relinquishing control of the Himalayas and Manchuria so that you will be accepted
I would like to see a more active orient
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Blassland
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:58 pm

Halleon wrote:
Blassland wrote:Not if they had a large navy, the Dutch empire is a perfect example


Compare the Dutch to The Hanseatic Republic of Livonia though and the Dutch are in a way better condition. The Dutch wasn't in a position to be blocked as easily as Livonia and even then the Dutch wasn't always taken seriously.

True, how is the Livonian navy and economy?
Their best bet is urbanizing most of their European territory with a powerful border guard and large industrialization, after that invest 70% of military spending in the Navy so they can dominate and put the rest of spending into a colonial vanguard
Threaten Sweden with another eastern European nation`s support if necessary
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Fortunagen
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Postby Fortunagen » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:58 pm

Halleon wrote:I wouldn't count on you being there to support them that's gonna happen long down the road. Plus Its not like a Oppressing Dictatorship is happening in the France and its easy to blame the revolution that beheaded people in the streets for all the problems that might exist with France. Don't worry should enough those revolution ideals will be erased from your mind when your back and united underneath the banner of the Greater French Empire. :p

So we are going to basically going to blame all the problems on each others nations?

That means your people will grow to support your government, while my people grow to support my government. Which means nether side's people are likely to join the other, so as a result we would either be invaded(which due to help and my industrialized would be incredibly difficult) or we would just grow apart as two separate nations, which I see as the most probable outcome. :(
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Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:01 pm

Sil Arion wrote:This RP has definitely caught my interest! If at all possible, I'd like to reserve China for an imperial-style government alike to the one or more of the famous Chinese dynasties. My app will come soon, but please allow me to reserve the current RL territory of China. Until then, cheers!

OP says all of China is too much.

I suggest a Wei/Shu/Wu Kingdom.
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Sil Arion
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Postby Sil Arion » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:05 pm

Blassland wrote:
Sil Arion wrote:This RP has definitely caught my interest! If at all possible, I'd like to reserve China for an imperial-style government alike to the one or more of the famous Chinese dynasties. My app will come soon, but please allow me to reserve the current RL territory of China. Until then, cheers!

Glad you want to join, many people have already applied for china but have been rejected because China would have too large land control and too large of a population
I would suggest relinquishing control of the Himalayas and Manchuria so that you will be accepted
I would like to see a more active orient


That's quite alright with me! As long as I keep the eastern seaboard, and most of China [especially the south], and the areas of the ancient capital cities during various eras.

Edit: You mentioned population concerns - what are your limits? Han China had a population of over fifty million, nearly sixty, in the second century BCE, if memory serves.
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Kershya
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Postby Kershya » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:06 pm

Landenburg wrote:
Acroticus wrote:
I wouldn't expect a colony....

Only in Hawaii. Maybe Alaska.


I have Hawaii.
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Halleon
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Postby Halleon » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:07 pm

Fortunagen wrote:
Halleon wrote:I wouldn't count on you being there to support them that's gonna happen long down the road. Plus Its not like a Oppressing Dictatorship is happening in the France and its easy to blame the revolution that beheaded people in the streets for all the problems that might exist with France. Don't worry should enough those revolution ideals will be erased from your mind when your back and united underneath the banner of the Greater French Empire. :p

So we are going to basically going to blame all the problems on each others nations?

That means your people will grow to support your government, while my people grow to support my government. Which means nether side's people are likely to join the other, so as a result we would either be invaded(which due to help and my industrialized would be incredibly difficult) or we would just grow apart as two separate nations, which I see as the most probable outcome. :(


For me its just a role play but you have to think France has been divided for what a few months? Don't see them really growing apart for at least a few more years and even then it would be realistic for them to grow apart. I'm not inclined to join you and the same can be said about you not wanting to join me so for role play sake eventually a conflict is gonna happen. I don't see you being industrialized making a big impact since both of us are civilized and then what foreign help? Your main ally the only one I actually take seriously is Prussia who is busy with a war at the moment.

Edit: Sorry for the long response just bored typed more then what I planned on. Aslong as the role play is fun and interesting then I'm happy.
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Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”-Abraham Lincoln
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
―Varys to Tyrion Lannister

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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:08 pm

Kershya wrote:
Landenburg wrote:Only in Hawaii. Maybe Alaska.


I have Hawaii.

And you are whom?
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Fortunagen
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Postby Fortunagen » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:30 pm

Halleon wrote:For me its just a role play but you have to think France has been divided for what a few months? Don't see them really growing apart for at least a few more years and even then it would be realistic for them to grow apart. I'm not inclined to join you and the same can be said about you not wanting to join me so for role play sake eventually a conflict is gonna happen. I don't see you being industrialized making a big impact since both of us are civilized and then what foreign help? Your main ally the only one I actually take seriously is Prussia who is busy with a war at the moment.

Edit: Sorry for the long response just bored typed more then what I planned on. Aslong as the role play is fun and interesting then I'm happy.


It's cool, it's cool, I'm in it for the fun of it also, but my first post was me building up my government with an industrialised system in Grenoble, Bordeaux, and Marseilles. So I do have a sturdy defence becoming established. So the odds are we'll have a stand-off situation, and both of us will just have to learn to come to terms with each-other.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Halleon
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Postby Halleon » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:38 pm

It all depends if a big war breaks out in Europe which I think will happen sooner then later.
Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”-Abraham Lincoln
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
―Varys to Tyrion Lannister

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Kershya
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Postby Kershya » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:29 pm

Landenburg wrote:
Kershya wrote:
I have Hawaii.

And you are whom?


Dvipantara.
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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:50 pm

Kershya wrote:
Landenburg wrote:And you are whom?


Dvipantara.

Unless you want to sell it, enjoy your war. c:
Alas yonder woman, damn you tempt me with thy saucy bosom
thus methinks I shall bestow my codpiece in thee & make naughty love to my lady all night
Please haste hither & quench this torment fairest maiden
get some

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