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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:24 pm

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Photana wrote:If we really want to get technical, the French Revolution shouldn't have happened. It was inspired by the massive debts of the government, which were mostly incurred helping the Americans fight for Independence.


I agree completely with the French Revolution part think I brought that up before but what I mean by the French Revolutionaries beheading people as a pass time sport is because I'm not into the whole beheading people and Charlemagne is one of those that would rather hang someone or just have them shot instead of the whole lets behead people in the street type justice presuming that's what the French Rebels are into.

Again, as I said, this is alternate history. So what if the RL French Revolutionaries went on a bloodthirsty rampage, killing thousands of people on the Guillotine and drowning thousands more in the rivers? Occitania isn't necessarily bound to that reality. If they carried out their revolution without public beheadings, then you have to accept that as canon.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:25 pm

Dwartzur wrote:Wait, I just noticed there's some land in the Bosphorus that is in Qirim's color. ...Glasgia, did you take that from me and I didn't notice it?

They took it in their original App. So they always had it, but it was missed on Leo's first reconstruction of the map.
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"In short, when we hastily attribute to aesthetic and inherited faculties the artistic nature of Athenian civilization, we are almost proceeding as did men in the Middle Ages, when fire was explained by phlogiston and the effects of opium by its soporific powers." --Emile Durkheim, 1895
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Postby Dwartzur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:27 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Dwartzur wrote:Wait, I just noticed there's some land in the Bosphorus that is in Qirim's color. ...Glasgia, did you take that from me and I didn't notice it?

They took it in their original App. So they always had it, but it was missed on Leo's first reconstruction of the map.


Oh, good. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to send him help... And would invade him from the south instead... *Cough*

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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:29 pm

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Halleon wrote:I can't get involved in any possible war with or against Russia anyways at the moment even if I could I'm not into the whole let's invade Russia since history stands "General Winter" does not loose wars. If I was in the condition and in a good situation I would rather side with Russia then against.

I don't want to invade Russia (I'm not that stupid, I know my desert army wouldn't stand a chance in Russian Winter) I merely wish for them to stop their invasion on the Khaganate.

As I see it, it's not so much an "invasion" of Russia as a counter-invasion of the land they've taken. Kind of like the Real-Life version of the Crimean War, Russian troops are more vulnerable when they go on the offensive into warmer territories.

Also, it might be a good idea to wait until Russia posts again before we react too much. They probably invaded thinking that the majority of the other countries would be behind them, not against them.
Edit: Never mind, just saw their last post. Looks like they're committed to war.
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"In short, when we hastily attribute to aesthetic and inherited faculties the artistic nature of Athenian civilization, we are almost proceeding as did men in the Middle Ages, when fire was explained by phlogiston and the effects of opium by its soporific powers." --Emile Durkheim, 1895
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Postby Halleon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:36 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Halleon wrote:
I agree completely with the French Revolution part think I brought that up before but what I mean by the French Revolutionaries beheading people as a pass time sport is because I'm not into the whole beheading people and Charlemagne is one of those that would rather hang someone or just have them shot instead of the whole lets behead people in the street type justice presuming that's what the French Rebels are into.

Again, as I said, this is alternate history. So what if the RL French Revolutionaries went on a bloodthirsty rampage, killing thousands of people on the Guillotine and drowning thousands more in the rivers? Occitania isn't necessarily bound to that reality. If they carried out their revolution without public beheadings, then you have to accept that as canon.


I understand completely what Alternative History is and not really worried about it. However I don't want him thinking that the Monarchy was beheading people in the streets ether. However I highly doubt his revolution took place without needless bloodshed taking place, its unrealistic for me or him to have our hands Country speaking to be completely stain free of innocent blood or to have no massacres take place since those type of events happen in revolutions and civil war.
Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

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"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:41 pm

Halleon wrote:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Again, as I said, this is alternate history. So what if the RL French Revolutionaries went on a bloodthirsty rampage, killing thousands of people on the Guillotine and drowning thousands more in the rivers? Occitania isn't necessarily bound to that reality. If they carried out their revolution without public beheadings, then you have to accept that as canon.


I understand completely what Alternative History is and not really worried about it. However I don't want him thinking that the Monarchy was beheading people in the streets ether. However I highly doubt his revolution took place without needless bloodshed taking place, its unrealistic for me or him to have our hands Country speaking to be completely stain free of innocent blood or to have no massacres take place since those type of events happen in revolutions and civil war.

I guess that's an issue you'll have to sort out OOCly with him. In all likelihood it will end in a compromise where both sides have blood on their hands. But at least both sides will agree on how much blood, and whose it was.
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:41 pm

I was hoping peace would hold out until the 1790s so I could hold my own against a European power without heavy losses
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Postby Halleon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:46 pm

I don't even know what really sparked this version of the French Revolution in the first place to be honest so don't know how pissed off rebels or anyone wanting to rebel would be. I'm gonna take a guess since France wasn't in massive debt from supporting the American Revolution then economic troubles wouldn't have been a big spark in the revolution keg.

Doesn't really matter to me ether way I've just been winging it on certain issues dealing with this version of the French Revolution.
Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”-Abraham Lincoln
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:59 pm

@Soodean Imperium, if I ICly requested troops would you send them?
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Postby Dwartzur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:59 pm

Blassland wrote:I was hoping peace would hold out until the 1790s so I could hold my own against a European power without heavy losses


Nope.avi
Welcome to being an asian nation. Always considered inferior to the european ones for one reason or another.
At least we're on a better position than Africa and America.

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Postby The Blazing Aura » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:02 pm

Dwartzur wrote:
Blassland wrote:I was hoping peace would hold out until the 1790s so I could hold my own against a European power without heavy losses


Nope.avi
Welcome to being an asian nation. Always considered inferior to the european ones for one reason or another.
At least we're on a better position than Africa and America.

Hey I'm Asian/African AND at the same level as the Europeans (pretty much the exception but hey)
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Nice 3000'th post.

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Postby Vredlandia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:04 pm

The Blazing Aura wrote:
Dwartzur wrote:
Nope.avi
Welcome to being an asian nation. Always considered inferior to the european ones for one reason or another.
At least we're on a better position than Africa and America.

Hey I'm Asian/African AND at the same level as the Europeans (pretty much the exception but hey)


Hey I'm African and.. inferior :(

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Postby Dwartzur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:09 pm

Yeah, we all try to be at the same level of the europeans.
...Actually I think I could be classified as a... small... non-influential... eastern european nation...

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Postby Zgraja » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:10 pm

Hey I'm Poland and well... Poland is the best!!

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Postby Dwartzur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:12 pm

Zgraja wrote:Hey I'm Poland and well... Poland is the best!!


But Poland cannot into space.

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Postby Blassland » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:14 pm

Dwartzur wrote:
Blassland wrote:I was hoping peace would hold out until the 1790s so I could hold my own against a European power without heavy losses


Nope.avi
Welcome to being an asian nation. Always considered inferior to the european ones for one reason or another.
At least we're on a better position than Africa and America.

ya, but I will be modern relatively soon
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:15 pm

So which of us is going to fight Russia?
I am and it looks like the UHS and Vijayanagar are going to fight them, Ionia Poland, and the Hansa care to join?
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Postby Kryskov » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:17 pm

Blassland wrote:So which of us is going to fight Russia?
I am and it looks like the UHS and Vijayanagar are going to fight them, Ionia Poland, and the Hansa care to join?

Hindustan will make a small contribution.

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Postby Zgraja » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:18 pm

Nope, Poland is backing it's closest ally... Russia

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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:20 pm

Zgraja wrote:Nope, Poland is backing it's closest ally... Russia

Well, shoot. There goes my last chance at sharing a border with someone on friendly terms with me.
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Postby Halleon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:22 pm

I've noticed that a so far in most of the conflicts a few nations join in then quickly back out when they realize others are joining in on the opposite side. Makes me wonder if the Crimean Conflict will be the same way.
Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”-Abraham Lincoln
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
―Varys to Tyrion Lannister

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Postby Blassland » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:26 pm

Zgraja wrote:Nope, Poland is backing it's closest ally... Russia

That makes little sense, but it is alt-history. Will you give active military assistance?
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Postby Blassland » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:27 pm

Halleon wrote:I've noticed that a so far in most of the conflicts a few nations join in then quickly back out when they realize others are joining in on the opposite side. Makes me wonder if the Crimean Conflict will be the same way.

I do not care who joins in as long as we can maintain the Qirim Khagnate.
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Postby Dwartzur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:32 pm

Blassland wrote:So which of us is going to fight Russia?
I am and it looks like the UHS and Vijayanagar are going to fight them, Ionia Poland, and the Hansa care to join?


As my two Middle East allies are joining on Qirim's side, I probably will do the same. /nod

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Postby Zgraja » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:33 pm

Soodean, we can still have our non aggression pact.

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