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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:09 am

Esternial wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Ah, the Great Belgian/Dutch Pot War of '08.

I lost a shitload of weight that night, just by sweating.

Also, a young Crowley:
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Holy fuck yes.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:41 am

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:51 am

If D wasn't useful and Megan's son, there are around ten thousand things Sanchez could probably arrest him for.
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# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:20 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:If D wasn't useful and Megan's son, there are around ten thousand things Sanchez could probably arrest him for.

Eleven, by my count.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:21 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Esternial wrote:I lost a shitload of weight that night, just by sweating.

Also, a young Crowley:

Holy fuck yes.

I could pull off that hairstyle.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:24 pm

I'm waiting on Liri to have some time to post to Alison.

I apologise for the weird ups and downs of the recent plotlines (Paris and Pele), but the various schedules of players involved in this didn't coincide beautifully with my own (Astro's school, Esty's tests, so on).

Hopefully this plot will go much more smoothly.
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Monfrox wrote:
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# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:24 pm

Esternial wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Holy fuck yes.

I could pull off that hairstyle.

I can and do pull off that hairstyle.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:27 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'm waiting on Liri to have some time to post to Alison.

I apologise for the weird ups and downs of the recent plotlines (Paris and Pele), but the various schedules of players involved in this didn't coincide beautifully with my own (Astro's school, Esty's tests, so on).

Hopefully this plot will go much more smoothly.

It's not your fault mate.

Rest assured, I will be done within five days. However, I still have a few things to deal with, but at least by the end of next week I'll be able to gather the time to catch up with this.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:52 pm

Esternial wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'm waiting on Liri to have some time to post to Alison.

I apologise for the weird ups and downs of the recent plotlines (Paris and Pele), but the various schedules of players involved in this didn't coincide beautifully with my own (Astro's school, Esty's tests, so on).

Hopefully this plot will go much more smoothly.

It's not your fault mate.

Rest assured, I will be done within five days. However, I still have a few things to deal with, but at least by the end of next week I'll be able to gather the time to catch up with this.

You should take my advice about the vacation though.
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The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:17 pm

Spoiler: John Dee is a vampire.
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Postby Constaniana » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:25 pm

People living in sewers under the school makes me think of this.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:52 pm

Poor John Dee, what have we done to him?
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- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:53 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:Poor John Dee, what have we done to him?

Hmm?
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:54 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Poor John Dee, what have we done to him?

Hmm?

We made this poor man into one of the worst human beings to have ever lived.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:56 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Hmm?

We made this poor man into one of the worst human beings to have ever lived.

Could be worse.

Could be Nixon.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:00 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:We made this poor man into one of the worst human beings to have ever lived.

Could be worse.

Could be Nixon.

Hey, fuck Nixon. He brought that down on himself for looking like the Penguin.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:02 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Could be worse.

Could be Nixon.

Hey, fuck Nixon. He brought that down on himself for looking like the Penguin.

"I am not a crook. But I am a serial killer from the Andromeda Galaxy, disguised as one of you mortals. Guards, kill them all. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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Postby Astrolinium » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:04 pm

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Nationstatelandsville wrote:Hey, fuck Nixon. He brought that down on himself for looking like the Penguin.

"I am not a crook. But I am a serial killer from the Andromeda Galaxy, disguised as one of you mortals. Guards, kill them all. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"


You and Jon have an unhealthy obsession with this man.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:04 pm

The main reason Dee is here is because, according to the notes I wrote when restarting this last year, he was going to be a major villain and basically Crowley's Moriarty.

Then I forgot he existed.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:08 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:"I am not a crook. But I am a serial killer from the Andromeda Galaxy, disguised as one of you mortals. Guards, kill them all. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"


You and Jon have an unhealthy obsession with this man.

RICHARD NIXON IS NO MAN.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:21 pm

While I get my IC shit together and write a post...

Nat, can I ask for your opinion on a certain literary matter?

Imagine you have two characters.

One is the designated protagonist, the other is a companion. The protagonist is not particularly flat or dull, and his overall character arch is a fundamental part of the plot, but he is also not that complex or interesting. In fact, in the very beginning he's a bit on the ignorant and offensive side.

The other character, the companion, is as three-dimensional as it gets. He has countless intricacies to his personality and background, and he is a bit on the unique side. You personally enjoy writing about this character. You enjoy writing about his actions, his quirks and his dialogue. However, his character arch does not necessarily fit the overall plot or its themes. In fact, a part of this character's arch would render a central theme of the plot irrelevant, and his evolution is not as radical as the protagonist's.

Would you dump the original protagonist and make the companion the new protagonist?
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Postby Esternial » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:24 pm

Liriena wrote:While I get my IC shit together and write a post...

Nat, can I ask for your opinion on a certain literary matter?

Imagine you have two characters.

One is the designated protagonist, the other is a companion. The protagonist is not particularly flat or dull, and his overall character arch is a fundamental part of the plot, but he is also not that complex or interesting. In fact, in the very beginning he's a bit on the ignorant and offensive side.

The other character, the companion, is as three-dimensional as it gets. He has countless intricacies to his personality and background, and he is a bit on the unique side. You personally enjoy writing about this character. You enjoy writing about his actions, his quirks and his dialogue. However, his character arch does not necessarily fit the overall plot or its themes. In fact, a part of this character's arch would render a central theme of the plot irrelevant, and his evolution is not as radical as the protagonist's.

Would you dump the original protagonist and make the companion the new protagonist?

Yup. Writing should be done for your enjoyment, so forcing yourself to painfully watch your most favourite character pass as a mere sidekick is just sheer mental masochism.

Fellate your mind. Protagonise that companion.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:26 pm

Liriena wrote:While I get my IC shit together and write a post...

Nat, can I ask for your opinion on a certain literary matter?

Imagine you have two characters.

One is the designated protagonist, the other is a companion. The protagonist is not particularly flat or dull, and his overall character arch is a fundamental part of the plot, but he is also not that complex or interesting. In fact, in the very beginning he's a bit on the ignorant and offensive side.

The other character, the companion, is as three-dimensional as it gets. He has countless intricacies to his personality and background, and he is a bit on the unique side. You personally enjoy writing about this character. You enjoy writing about his actions, his quirks and his dialogue. However, his character arch does not necessarily fit the overall plot or its themes. In fact, a part of this character's arch would render a central theme of the plot irrelevant, and his evolution is not as radical as the protagonist's.

Would you dump the original protagonist and make the companion the new protagonist?

Personally, though I can't guarantee results because I am unfamiliar with the work, it sounds like an Ahab/Watson kind of situation would work.

To elaborate - tell the story from the protagonist's point-of-view, but focusing on the companion. No one gives a fuck what Watson does, but telling the story from his viewpoint lets us see Holmes as others do and keeps him mysterious.

That is, unless you don't want the companion to be mysterious, at which point... well, I would have to read it, really. But don't force yourself into doing something because of any plans, or on my word.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:31 pm

Esternial wrote:Yup. Writing should be done for your enjoyment, so forcing yourself to painfully watch your most favourite character pass as a mere sidekick is just sheer mental masochism.

Fellate your mind. Protagonise that companion.


Nationstatelandsville wrote:Personally, though I can't guarantee results because I am unfamiliar with the work, it sounds like an Ahab/Watson kind of situation would work.

To elaborate - tell the story from the protagonist's point-of-view, but focusing on the companion. No one gives a fuck what Watson does, but telling the story from his viewpoint lets us see Holmes as others do and keeps him mysterious.

That is, unless you don't want the companion to be mysterious, at which point... well, I would have to read it, really. But don't force yourself into doing something because of any plans, or on my word.

The problem is that a deep insight into the protagonist's personal perceptions, preconceptions, thoughts and feelings is a central part of the writing, and I can't help but feel that this secondary character, though he would make a terrific main character, also serves as a great companion. But I think I'll figure something out.

Thanks, guys. :hug:

Now...to the IC!
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