Girls Und Panzer RP OOC (Previously Interest) Thread

[The VDNKh]

How does this work? Are SPGs allowed?

Why the hell would you want to play a team of scumbags.

HAHAHA, i laughed out loud at this XD ...a fellow WoT player, i see?

Anyways, i figured it would be easier to RP without being directly engaged in combat, if not a few times.
And, what about RPing as the tank and not too much with the entire crew? I read that there was this idea in the first pages of the topic.

[Monfrox]

Pretty sure everyone here plays WoT.

I could be wrong, though.

[Stahn]

I like Girls und Panzer! :3

[Orussia]

GuP?
GuP?

Do I hear GuP?

I WILL GUP.

Editing for app. Hang tight.

[Monfrox]

You know, I think ВДНКх and I would get along quite nicely...

And looks like more new blood too. Oh boy, isn't this just a great day.

[Orussia]

You know, I think ВДНКх and I would get along quite nicely...

And looks like more new blood too. Oh boy, isn't this just a great day.

>new blood
Wut.

Also, beyond what size are tanks considered too OP for this RP? And are we bound to only tanks that were actually built, or are the Actual Sensha-Do Rules applicable here?

[Finorskia]

You know, I think ВДНКх and I would get along quite nicely...

And looks like more new blood too. Oh boy, isn't this just a great day.

>new blood
Wut.

Also, beyond what size are tanks considered too OP for this RP? And are we bound to only tanks that were actually built, or are the Actual Sensha-Do Rules applicable here?

All your questions have answers that can be found in earlier OOC posts. But I think 1941-42 was the latest your tank could go, your tank has to be one that had a functioning physical prototype, and yes actual Sensha-Do-Rules are applying (whatever you mean by that).

[Xing]

Hmm I'm liking this spark of interest. Good way to stir the waters. On a side note for you newcomers it might be a good idea to skim over the ic to figure out a bit of what has happened. There isn't too much that's happened but still it'll help.

Why the hell would you want to play a team of scumbags.

HAHAHA, i laughed out loud at this XD ...a fellow WoT player, i see?

Anyways, i figured it would be easier to RP without being directly engaged in combat, if not a few times.
And, what about RPing as the tank and not too much with the entire crew? I read that there was this idea in the first pages of the topic.

yeah we were still trying to pull together ideas, but GuP was driven a lot by the crews themselves so we needed a way for them to be in, so basically your tank commander will be the main rp character, the rest don't have to have a lot of depth just to make it easier to manage. Think of them as your personal npcs.

As far as tanks go early WW II is what we were going with for now, the school is revamping its sensha do program so they wouldn't be able to afford anything too extravagant.

[The VDNKh]

>new blood
Wut.

Also, beyond what size are tanks considered too OP for this RP? And are we bound to only tanks that were actually built, or are the Actual Sensha-Do Rules applicable here?

All your questions have answers that can be found in earlier OOC posts. But I think 1941-42 was the latest your tank could go, your tank has to be one that had a functioning physical prototype, and yes actual Sensha-Do-Rules are applying (whatever you mean by that).

So for example no Hetzer?

[Orussia]

As far as tanks go early WW II is what we were going with for now, the school is revamping its sensha do program so they wouldn't be able to afford anything too extravagant.

Ah, okay, so nothing like this?

Which, might I add, is actually completely within the rules.

But very well. I shall look further.

[Finorskia]

I dug this up a while back. Just re-posting it for all newcomers.

History of Sensha-Do

Part 1:

The theory that Senshadou directly originated in Japan from mounted naginatadou, and in Europe from jousting tournaments is influential. There is also an opposing theory that it originates from competitions which occurred in ancient Greece and Rome between horse pulled, two-wheeled sensha such as chariots and quadriga. It is said that female riders participated in these races, as a light body was advantageous and, while other ancient olympic events were normally held in the nude, clothing was permitted. Of particular interest is Cynisca, the daughter of the Spartan king Archidamus II, who became a champion of these ancient olympic sensha races (though as the owner of the horse, not as the rider), and in a single act increased the participation of females. Later, female gladiators existed in Rome who would hold exhibition races while wearing dazzling costumes. The suggestiveness of things like the costumes flipping up in the wind or being torn during crashes made these races extremely popular. Even after the collapse of the western Roman empire, sensha races remained even more popular than gladiatorial battles in the eastern Roman empire, but gradually, due steep jumps in the operation expenses of sensha teams and the increasing difficulty of maintaining the nation during its decline, with the eastern Roman empire's downfall sensha races also disappeared. Because of the fact that sensha races didn't spread into other countries afterward, the mainstream opinion is that they weren't the direct origin of Senshadou.
>Throughout the western world, in any given period, the ability to use the tools of combat developed from training, and so contests using them, like those with Sensha mentioned above, were carried out as a matter of course. Examples include kendou for kenjutsu, kyuudou and archery for kyuujutsu, judo for jujitsu, wrestling and boxing for unarmed combat, and even shougi and chess, contests which mimic what were originally combat formations.

It seems that jousting matches have been held since around the 12th century in Europe, the same time as when the knight social class came into existence. As the knights were absorbed into the courtly culture, they changed from simple warriors who existed for the sake of achieving deeds of combat, into persons who valued things like decorum and loyalty, but especially devotion directed toward a lady. Then, in England, Philippa of Hainault, who was King Edward the third's queen, acted as a member of the Order of Garter. This event was copied by various other countries, and female knights successively came into existence. These female knights seem to have also participated in jousting matches, but due to their inferior physical strength compared to males, special armor appears to have been made for female use in order to prevent injuries. In the end, female knights began fighting in armored two-wheeled coaches pushed from behind by horses, and this is said to be the origin of Senshadou in western countries. In Japan on the other hand, the advent of female naginatadou was brought about during the Edo period by the popularity of legends set in the Heian period featuring brave heroines, such as the legend of the beautiful female samurai Hangaku Gozen, or the legend of Tomoe Gozen, Minamoto no Yoshinaka's beloved concubine who served heroically along side him in the suppression of Taira, as well as legends set in the Sengoku era, such as those of Tachibana Ginchiyo, or Myourin'ni who sieged Tsurusaki castle. Naginatadou became set as something essential to practice, particularly for wives of samurai and females serving noble families. This serves as the basis of Senshadou in Japan.

Part 2:

After the advent of modern weapons using machinery, guns were used in various shooting competitions while cars, planes and ships were used in various races. Also, planes, who underwent rapid development and mass production in WWI were sold off as surplus post war, leading to people who make their living through aerobatics. Similarly, tanks were invented in WWI and mass produced. They also developed rapidly though not quite as fast as planes, and the old vehicles were sold as tractor substitutes to civilians.

On the other hand, WWI, in which these modern weapons were comitted, turned out to be a tragic war in which casualties massively exceeded those in previous wars. Worried women, centered around mothers and wives used media to push a large campaign denouncing tank combat and machine-gun shooting as "ungentlemanly", unchivalrous and barbaric. Conversely, airplanes, with their duels and episodes in which planes running out of ammunition or suffering defects were allowed to escape, was greatly promoted as being "full of chivalry", and when combined with the elegance of aerobatics, was beautified. In this way, an atmosphere that perceives male tankers as despicable and "uncool" was formed. Furthermore, while car racing was popular in Europe, racing with the head sticking out messes up the hair and dirties the face, along with the danger of serious casualties have kept almost all females from participating. At that point, females that use disposed of tanks for racing started to appear. Though tanks have the disadvantage of being hot and stinky, it was popular among progressive women because the armor makes it safe. The advent of 1-2 man tankettes further increased its popularity among women due to their compactness and ease of operation, and lots of tankette matches were held. In this way, tankette matches fused with armored chariot matches and Senshado was born in Europe.

Tanks were also imported into Japan, but were unpopular with men who respect Bushido, and thus priority was given to equipping female cavalry units. Later, this fused with mounted-naginatado and became Japan's senshado.

For a time, there was a period when classes (original: 層) who didn't understand chivalry and bushido used many tanks in war, but for the most part Senshado continued with tanks being considered "something of the women". However, recently popularity has decreased somewhat with the advent of attack helicopters.

Part 3:

Tankette (with a crew of 1-2) races were the norm before Panzerfahren became a competition event. The tankettes were highly popular in Europe due to their agility and the sense of thrill from crisscrossing almost any region.

A craze among European ladies to become drivers started from the fact that the wife of Karl Frredrich Benz, the founder of Mercedes-Benz made history by being the first female driver in cross-country movement. These ladies used the easy to drive, highly compact yet fully capable tankettes as their personal car.

Rallying, originally reserved for Feudal knights going from their realm to a predetermined waypoint, came to be its modern form as a competition where one jostle for position from the starting point, goes through checkpoints until finally reaching the endpoint, at Monte Carlo in 1911.

Although The Monte Carlo Rally came to a stop due to the onset of the Great War, rally came back by 1924; a pair of noblewomen participating in a Renault FT-17 and performed in spades had managed to captivate the world press and earn accolade for the sport.

In an attempt to raise the speed and dampen the noise on the obsolete French FTs, the Renaults were equipped with all new suspension and rubber tracks, while receiving the upgraded M24/25 experimental engines, which gave it a speed of 16km/h. The FT was crewed by Belgium noblewomen, who received French Army support.


Most participants to such rally events came from Europe. The rally had participants from Paris, Berliin, Wien, Brussels, Geneve, and Roma, and even from Tunisia, some 3900km away from the starting point.

In order to address the differences in range for the different waypoints, checkpoints, with a speed cap of 25km/h during crossing, that awarded points were established along the competition route, so as to ensure that the rally was not a competition in speed.

As gala were usually hosted after the tournament, and that the participants bear the name of noble houses across Europe, the rally came to be seen a a social event for the elite and the nobility.

Even though that tanks were slower to race cars, and were prone to breakdowns, adventurous female drivers kept competing, being comforted by operating armor-clad vehicles. As as the number of participants rise, the armored vehicle division moved its own competition from January to June, then change the name of the event to that of the "Monte Carlo Tank Rally".

During the time, tankette development continued on its own across the Dover Strait. In 1925, British Army Major Giffard Le Quesne Martel had created the Morris-Martel Tankette for his daughter, out of spare automobile parts in his own garage.

As Martel's tankette crewed only one, and it was cumbersome for the sole driver to operate the hull machine-gun, a two-manned version was developed in the following year of 1926, since Martel had intended to ride with his daughter.

Having heard of this development, the owners of Carden-Loyd Tractors Ltd followed suit and came to create a miniature tankette also his own daughter. Several variants were made, including a double-seater, made for the same rationale as that of the Martel Tankette.

Martel and Carden-Loyd would eventually create the Carden-Loyd Mark VI 1928, which were licensed worldwide, yielding derivatives such as the Italian CV.33, the Russian T-27, the Polish TK3 and French UE Chenillette and so forth.

These tankettes were not sold only to the military, but also to some member of the nobility, just as the number of female tank racers increase in number.

Due to the increase in the number of vehicles participating in the sport, other events outside Monte Carlo took shape, and various forms of competition, such as speed races and gunnery skill competitions.

French Renault FT variant would show exceptional reliability in the 1925 and 1926 24 Heures du Mans (Le Mans, started in 1923). Having seen this development, other countries aside from Great Britain and France would enter into all sorts of racing competitions so as to showcase their tanks.

A British noblewoman did enter the Monte Carlos with a Mark I, but the tank fell below the 10km/h minimum average speed requirements, so it had to be withdrawn. However, the same lady had managed to qualify and complete the course in a Mark A Whippet by the following year.

Part 4:

The tankette craze got a further shot in the arm when the Germans, who ordered 580 LK II and only to lose to war before half way through production, liquidated the tanks piecemeal at bargain-bin prices while the country's in turmoil.

These tanks opened up a whole new target audience, who previously could not afford tanks of their own.

Modifications went rampant as these tanks were released to the market while incomplete, so instead of using the Daimler-Benz V4, LK II may have had more powerful engine, removal of turret and additional fuel tanks to improve endurance, modified armor shape and a host of other personalized customizations.

Restrictions on vehicle modifications came about when this customization went overboard, leading to cases of tanks without any armor and sporting a V12, where it no longer bear any resemblance to the stock vehicle.

It was during this time that opposition movement had separated themselves to setup new racing organizations, where any tracked vehicles that were initially made as tanks would be admitted to their competition. Such competitions came to be known as the Unlimited Class.

As this class became well received in America, the root organization moved to America as well, and the racing event came to be a support race in the Indianapolis 500 mile race.

Although LKII made vehicles more affordable, the target audience that rather not tinker with parts tend to adopt cheaper and mechanically less complex tankettes, such as the Cardne-Loyd Mark VI, as mentioned above. These designs which were licensed across the world and led to many mass produced derivatives in the 1930s.

Britain, who pioneered the Light Tanks, in following design trends, introduced the turreted Vickers 6-ton tank Mk. E.

Although they were not adopted by the British Army, the tanks were widely exported and licensed. This tank was produced as the T-26 in the USSR and the 7TP in Poland. It would pave the way for the enlargement of miniature tankettes as they become light tanks.

As the light tanks trickle down in number, the tankettes became increasingly adopted in racing events. Dummy shot competitions were also starting to take place as these tankettes were armed. It is difficult to achieve team cohesion with tankettes as one person drives as the other shoots.

The British-born tankette committee had attempted to solicit competitors with good teamwork potential, but they had little avail, save a figure skater that competed in pair figure skating events, who was wounded in the leg.

Skating developed into a recreational sport in the Netherlands, thanks to its advanced canal networks. Although the peasantry raced, the nobility went the way of competing in graceful maneuvers, which formed the basic framework of figure skating by the 17th century.

Members of the House of Stuart, who returned to England following the Restoration from their exile in the Netherlands would introduce figure skating to United Kingdom. Pair figure skating came into being as the British involved themselves with even more graceful forms as social dancing norms were merged with the sport.

The birth of a new sport came about as the tankette, crewed by the female figure skater danced about the fields in refined movements, captivated the hearts and minds of the spectators with gunnery of pinpoint precision.

The British nobility, having seen this sort of composed action, came to a revolutionize the Equestrian competition event. The British Tankette Style, which combined elements of the British Equestrian with these tankettes thus came into being.

The British Tankette Style is essentially that of obstacle course and show jumping. The first day of the competition would be about disassembly and the repair of vehicles, the second being that of cross-country and the third devoted combined training, jumps and maintenance.

As the combined training suited Army training, and that the adolescents of the nobility class found tankettes to be adorable and easier to control, the event became popular in Great Britain.

Sporting events being developed around the tankettes would gave rise in taking these competition formats to other tank categories. The French were the most ambitious, creating team events that featured crew of more than 3, which tankette with a crew of two cannot perform.

Team competition, such as the 24 Heure de Mann and a host of others that were hosted in France, had to dictate that a crew of three and above were mandatory as competition rules, thus ruling tankette out of competition.

Anglo and French based tank competition rulesets spread across Europe gradually, and calls to standardize the games grew.

America, on the other hand, had little tank development due to the fact that Unlimited Class events centered around modifications, and that they had little interest in drafting tournament rules.

This led to European ruleset forming the basis of modern Panzerfahren rules.

[Xing]

All your questions have answers that can be found in earlier OOC posts. But I think 1941-42 was the latest your tank could go, your tank has to be one that had a functioning physical prototype, and yes actual Sensha-Do-Rules are applying (whatever you mean by that).

So for example no Hetzer?

Well actually. We did have someone that was going to use a hetzer but they backed out. Basically for the most part we are following what fin said about 41-42 tanks, however depending on what it is I may bend the rule.

[Finorskia]

As far as tanks go early WW II is what we were going with for now, the school is revamping its sensha do program so they wouldn't be able to afford anything too extravagant.

Ah, okay, so nothing like this?

Which, might I add, is actually completely within the rules.

But very well. I shall look further.

Mind pointing us in the direction of these rules as I would like to see them. From the show it appears that only tanks that had a working prototype were allowed and were allowing players to start with only early war tanks.

Also the Hetzer is not the Hetzer the actual Hetzer was a tank that looked like what we know as the Hetzer and someone along the way got the two mixed up.

[The VDNKh]

I dug this up a while back. Just re-posting it for all newcomers.

History of Sensha-Do
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thanks for reposting.

So i guess i'd go with either a Marder II or a StuG III ( in 1942 they already had the 7.5, right?)

[Xing]

I dug this up a while back. Just re-posting it for all newcomers.

History of Sensha-Do
-text-

thanks for reposting.

So i guess i'd go with either a Marder II or a StuG III ( in 1942 they already had the 7.5, right?)

Well we already have a StuG so that might be a bit of a stretch, and the tanks have to have a closed cabin as far as I know. The hetzer would probably be alright so long as things like its gun and armor are stock as opposed to automatically having a big gun.

[The VDNKh]

thanks for reposting.

So i guess i'd go with either a Marder II or a StuG III ( in 1942 they already had the 7.5, right?)

Well we already have a StuG so that might be a bit of a stretch, and the tanks have to have a closed cabin as far as I know. The hetzer would probably be alright so long as things like its gun and armor are stock as opposed to automatically having a big gun.

Wha? Closed cabin?

[Orussia]

Also the Hetzer is not the Hetzer the actual Hetzer was a tank that looked like what we know as the Hetzer and someone along the way got the two mixed up.

Allow me to correct that for you.

The tank we now know as the Hetzer was never officially named as such. In every official document, you will never see the name 'Hetzer' pop up. Instead, you will see Jagdpanzer 38 (t), the official name. 'Hetzer' was the name reserved for the tank destroyer based off of the Entwicklungstypen-15 chassis.

Personally, I prefer using the designations. Less confusion that way. :>

Mind pointing us in the direction of these rules as I would like to see them.

Episode 10.5 from GuP itself.

EDIT: OP, would the T-70/T-80 be acceptable?

[Xing]

Well we already have a StuG so that might be a bit of a stretch, and the tanks have to have a closed cabin as far as I know. The hetzer would probably be alright so long as things like its gun and armor are stock as opposed to automatically having a big gun.

Wha? Closed cabin?

Mhmm, its pretty understandable. Considering its a sport for high school girls they'd have to put every safety precaution in.

[Xing]

Also the Hetzer is not the Hetzer the actual Hetzer was a tank that looked like what we know as the Hetzer and someone along the way got the two mixed up.

Allow me to correct that for you.

The tank we now know as the Hetzer was never officially named as such. In every official document, you will never see the name 'Hetzer' pop up. Instead, you will see Jagdpanzer 38 (t), the official name. 'Hetzer' was the name reserved for the tank destroyer based off of the Entwicklungstypen-15 chassis.

Personally, I prefer using the designations. Less confusion that way. :>

Mind pointing us in the direction of these rules as I would like to see them.

Episode 10.5 from GuP itself.

EDIT: OP, would the T-70/T-80 be acceptable?

Yeah I don't see why not.

[Orussia]

Yeah I don't see why not.

T-70 it is! Two person crew ftw.

[The VDNKh]

Yeah I don't see why not.

T-70 it is! Two person crew ftw.

Yeah, i'm going with the italian tankette L3 cc anti-tank ....
Solothurn AT rifle for the lulz!

[Orussia]

T-70 it is! Two person crew ftw.

Yeah, i'm going with the italian tankette L3 cc anti-tank ....
Solothurn AT rifle for the lulz!

It's sooooooooo cute! :3

But that's okay. The T-70 reminds me of French tanks, where the poor commander is loaded down with every duty except driving.

[The VDNKh]

Yeah, i'm going with the italian tankette L3 cc anti-tank ....
Solothurn AT rifle for the lulz!

It's sooooooooo cute! :3

But that's okay. The T-70 reminds me of French tanks, where the poor commander is loaded down with every duty except driving.

Kawaii tanks are the way!

Well, you could go with the Char B1 ,too, then.

[Xing]

T-70 it is! Two person crew ftw.

Yeah, i'm going with the italian tankette L3 cc anti-tank ....
Solothurn AT rifle for the lulz!

That is one tiny ass tank. Hope you don't plan on challenging any heavies.

[Finorskia]

Yeah, i'm going with the italian tankette L3 cc anti-tank ....
Solothurn AT rifle for the lulz!

That is one tiny ass tank. Hope you don't plan on challenging any heavies.

Or anything for that matter. A 20mm gun is going to bounce off of Sherman and German frontal plates.