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Swith Witherward
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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:43 pm

Zarkanians wrote:
Primordial Luxa wrote:
Very interesting
I never thought of it that way

English Literary Focus 30s for the win. Not having any employment options other than journalism and writing when I get out of highschool HO!

It's a nice way of looking at it, but technically you stated an early misconception about women rather than a myth. Myth and mythos aren't the same. I'm the one who used the term Judaeo-Christian mythos, so I'd like to clarify...

Myth is from French Mythe and directly from Modern Latin mythus, from Greek mythos "speech, thought, story, myth, anything delivered by word of mouth".

Myths are "stories about divine beings, generally arranged in a coherent system; they are revered as true and sacred; they are endorsed by rulers and priests; and closely linked to religion. Once this link is broken, and the actors in the story are not regarded as gods but as human heroes, giants or fairies, it is no longer a myth but a folktale. Where the central actor is divine but the story is trivial ... the result is religious legend, not myth." [J. Simpson & S. Roud, "Dictionary of English Folklore," Oxford, 2000, p.254]

Mythos, however, are the pattern of basic values and attitudes of a people, characteristically transmitted through myths and the arts, but can go on to describe the interrelationship of value structures and historical experiences of a people.

So, Judaeo-Christian (Abrahamism or Abrahamic) mythos is what GT relies upon (which are canon in some doctrines) to describe Hell, demons, demons' attributes or spheres, angel hierarchy etc. He also pulls from "pagan" mythos as well as a few folktales.

Sadly, our society bastardizes words and assigns them odd flavors so anything with "myth" in it becomes "fantasy story" which is suddenly synonymous with "fake" and "lie" and "false". That misinterpretation sits as poorly with me.

And there you have it.
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Postby Erucia » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:54 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:
Zarkanians wrote:English Literary Focus 30s for the win. Not having any employment options other than journalism and writing when I get out of highschool HO!

It's a nice way of looking at it, but technically you stated an early misconception about women rather than a myth. Myth and mythos aren't the same. I'm the one who used the term Judaeo-Christian mythos, so I'd like to clarify...

Myth is from French Mythe and directly from Modern Latin mythus, from Greek mythos "speech, thought, story, myth, anything delivered by word of mouth".

Myths are "stories about divine beings, generally arranged in a coherent system; they are revered as true and sacred; they are endorsed by rulers and priests; and closely linked to religion. Once this link is broken, and the actors in the story are not regarded as gods but as human heroes, giants or fairies, it is no longer a myth but a folktale. Where the central actor is divine but the story is trivial ... the result is religious legend, not myth." [J. Simpson & S. Roud, "Dictionary of English Folklore," Oxford, 2000, p.254]

Mythos, however, are the pattern of basic values and attitudes of a people, characteristically transmitted through myths and the arts, but can go on to describe the interrelationship of value structures and historical experiences of a people.

So, Judaeo-Christian (Abrahamism or Abrahamic) mythos is what GT relies upon (which are canon in some doctrines) to describe Hell, demons, demons' attributes or spheres, angel hierarchy etc. He also pulls from "pagan" mythos as well as a few folktales.

Sadly, our society bastardizes words and assigns them odd flavors so anything with "myth" in it becomes "fantasy story" which is suddenly synonymous with "fake" and "lie" and "false". That misinterpretation sits as poorly with me.

And there you have it.

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Postby Zarkanians » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:03 pm

Erucia wrote:
Swith Witherward wrote:It's a nice way of looking at it, but technically you stated an early misconception about women rather than a myth. Myth and mythos aren't the same. I'm the one who used the term Judaeo-Christian mythos, so I'd like to clarify...

Myth is from French Mythe and directly from Modern Latin mythus, from Greek mythos "speech, thought, story, myth, anything delivered by word of mouth".

Myths are "stories about divine beings, generally arranged in a coherent system; they are revered as true and sacred; they are endorsed by rulers and priests; and closely linked to religion. Once this link is broken, and the actors in the story are not regarded as gods but as human heroes, giants or fairies, it is no longer a myth but a folktale. Where the central actor is divine but the story is trivial ... the result is religious legend, not myth." [J. Simpson & S. Roud, "Dictionary of English Folklore," Oxford, 2000, p.254]

Mythos, however, are the pattern of basic values and attitudes of a people, characteristically transmitted through myths and the arts, but can go on to describe the interrelationship of value structures and historical experiences of a people.

So, Judaeo-Christian (Abrahamism or Abrahamic) mythos is what GT relies upon (which are canon in some doctrines) to describe Hell, demons, demons' attributes or spheres, angel hierarchy etc. He also pulls from "pagan" mythos as well as a few folktales.

Sadly, our society bastardizes words and assigns them odd flavors so anything with "myth" in it becomes "fantasy story" which is suddenly synonymous with "fake" and "lie" and "false". That misinterpretation sits as poorly with me.

And there you have it.

Yay! Equality, peace, love and acceptance!


Alright, sorry.
To be fair, I did use the Structuralist definition of myth, and both things I listed qualify as myths in that definition. It's... Just... I was describing the wrong definition, so everything I said was a non-sequitor and also wrong.
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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:43 pm

Zarkanians wrote:Alright, sorry.
To be fair, I did use the Structuralist definition of myth, and both things I listed qualify as myths in that definition. It's... Just... I was describing the wrong definition, so everything I said was a non-sequitor and also wrong.
Yay!

No need for apology! :p :lol: I'm just anal retentive.

NA... Chaos food: upscale but nice portions. Everything from lobster to Angus beef hamburgers. There are comfort foods thrown in, like chicken fingers, but you can also find some odd gourmet things on the menu. Also, they provide more than human food, so beings like NVE and Swith can eat normally. Those menus are available upon request. (Carnivore menu, insectivore menu, vegan menu etc.)...

Unless your characters aren't in Bielefeld. Last I saw, they were working an investigation. Are they elsewhere now?
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Postby Erucia » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:45 pm

Eh, quick random question: I'm feeling more and more like I should start writing mini-stories about Ray's time in the Wolf City Police Department; where can I do this, and how graphic can I be?
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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:46 pm

Erucia wrote:Eh, quick random question: I'm feeling more and more like I should start writing mini-stories about Ray's time in the Wolf City Police Department; where can I do this, and how graphic can I be?

OSF is the perfect place. If they're really gritty (see the Zetaboard TOS), you can write in Section 13 BUT you have to be 18 or older to access it.

Edit: I think I'm going to grab my book and go read outside. It's sprinkling!
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Postby New Aksarben » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:48 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:
Zarkanians wrote:Alright, sorry.
To be fair, I did use the Structuralist definition of myth, and both things I listed qualify as myths in that definition. It's... Just... I was describing the wrong definition, so everything I said was a non-sequitor and also wrong.
Yay!

No need for apology! :p :lol: I'm just anal retentive.

NA... Chaos food: upscale but nice portions. Everything from lobster to Angus beef hamburgers. There are comfort foods thrown in, like chicken fingers, but you can also find some odd gourmet things on the menu. Also, they provide more than human food, so beings like NVE and Swith can eat normally. Those menus are available upon request. (Carnivore menu, insectivore menu, vegan menu etc.)...

Unless your characters aren't in Bielefeld. Last I saw, they were working an investigation. Are they elsewhere now?

They are on the tour.... Albert and Ray joined a few days ago....
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Postby Zarkanians » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:49 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:
Erucia wrote:Eh, quick random question: I'm feeling more and more like I should start writing mini-stories about Ray's time in the Wolf City Police Department; where can I do this, and how graphic can I be?

OSF is the perfect place. If they're really gritty (see the Zetaboard TOS), you can write in Section 13 BUT you have to be 18 or older to access it.

Edit: I think I'm going to grab my book and go read outside. It's sprinkling!


I love it when rain does that! It doesn't hurt, but it's still cool and refreshing!
...
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Postby The BranRiech » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:07 pm

Uh, Swith . . .

If your character left the trip, then where is her handbag that she was keeping everyone's souvenirs in?

:p

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Postby Giovenith » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:18 pm

The BranRiech wrote:Uh, Swith . . .

If your character left the trip, then where is her handbag that she was keeping everyone's souvenirs in?

:p


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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:19 pm

The BranRiech wrote:Uh, Swith . . .

If your character left the trip, then where is her handbag that she was keeping everyone's souvenirs in?

:p

Her coin purse melds into her matrix, so she's still got Bran's packages... and Atosh.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:41 pm

So, who's ready to leave? Soon? Now? Soonish?

I should've been on earlier, but I was either tired/lazy, or watching To Aru Majutsu no Index.
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Postby New Aksarben » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:48 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:So, who's ready to leave? Soon? Now? Soonish?

I should've been on earlier, but I was either tired/lazy, or watching To Aru Majutsu no Index.

soonish.... Albert and JAcob need to get there things.... as does Ray...
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Postby Primordial Luxa » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:54 pm

So how are things?
Swith Witherward wrote:But I trust the people here. Well, except Prim. He has shifty eyes but his cute smile make up for it.

Monfrox wrote:But it's not like we've known Prim to really stick with normality...

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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:55 pm

Hiya Prim!
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Postby Erucia » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:56 pm

Primordial Luxa wrote:So how are things?

Deadly.

*Sound of a pistol slide clicking*
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Postby Zarkanians » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Primordial Luxa wrote:So how are things?


Great! All my problems are mortally injured! I'm holding them hostage! Their families are sure to send me the ransom any moment now!
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Postby Primordial Luxa » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 pm

Good to here
whats going on IC?
Swith Witherward wrote:But I trust the people here. Well, except Prim. He has shifty eyes but his cute smile make up for it.

Monfrox wrote:But it's not like we've known Prim to really stick with normality...

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Postby Tiltjuice » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Erucia wrote:
Tiltjuice wrote:I may be headed out soon.

No, Juicy Tilt! Why must you leave us?


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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:11 pm

Primordial Luxa wrote:Good to here
whats going on IC?

The group on tour is about to depart for the next city in Torsi's nation. The group back home is up to their normal antics. I'm pretty much out of touch except with Swith/Blythe and Tipper so I don't know who is doing what outside of those encapsulated stories.
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Postby Erucia » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:28 pm

Be back in an hour or so!
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Postby The New Velociraptor Empire » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:29 pm

Oh YES! I finally did it! I won Texas Hold Em' Poker with a high card! I also won the "Paranoia" Core from GLaDOS! Victory is mine!
*runs victory lap*

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Postby Zarkanians » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:30 pm

The New Velociraptor Empire wrote:Oh YES! I finally did it! I won Texas Hold Em' Poker with a high card! I also won the "Paranoia" Core from GLaDOS! Victory is mine!
*runs victory lap*


*Places victory candy everywhere along the victory lap* *The victory candy dances* *It's dancing candy* *No, it doesn't have legs* *You don't need legs or arms to dance*
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Postby Swith Witherward » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:34 pm

*laughing* I was wondering how long GT's patience with Swith's antics would last. "Swith, why u f*ck with Thriller while he sleep?"
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Postby The BranRiech » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:38 pm

Swith or GT, I have Kei knocking on the door about the mission.

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