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Red Croatia
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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:01 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:You might want to bother and actually read the rules of deckbuilding here.

I did. I'm not sure of the problem?

Red Croatia wrote:And no, Occupation could perhaps be a name of the society you are in, the school you're attending etc... :P

Ah alright. Perhaps Organization would work better as the category name. Lol. But I shall fix that.

Are you sure that you haven't skipped around..100% of them?
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:05 pm

Red Croatia wrote:The Third Athenian Court

Ladies and Gentlemen, My Beloved Duelists, Today we shall be discussing a unique spell card known as Secret Village of the Spellcasters.

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I myself, like many of you I believe are slightly concerned about this card. This card would be able to entirely block all the spell cards used by a certain someone very easily, therefore it is a important subject to debate.

Everyone and I mean Everyone, Is allowed to share his or her opinion here.

Let the discussion begin.

I have a very simple opinion on the matter.

Should it be allowed? Yes.

Aside from the fact that it is the deck I submitted, I think banning is sorta prejudiced against Lockdown decks of all kinds. Though it is useful and seems useful on the face surface, it is actually a fairly easy card to stop all things considered. And since you have a deck of 40 cards, the chances of drawing it 3/40 at best.

If you do wish to ban this card, I think it only fair to ban Lockdown decks of all types. Ie, ban Umi decks (or at least Tornado Wall), ban Jinzo decks, etc.
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Postby Rynagria » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:08 pm

Red Croatia wrote:The Third Athenian Court

Ladies and Gentlemen, My Beloved Duelists, Today we shall be discussing a unique spell card known as Secret Village of the Spellcasters.

(Image)

I myself, like many of you I believe are slightly concerned about this card. This card would be able to entirely block all the spell cards used by a certain someone very easily, therefore it is a important subject to debate.

Everyone and I mean Everyone, Is allowed to share his or her opinion here.

Let the discussion begin.

I don't think so, seems a wittle bit OP. Considering not everyone has a spellcaster-type monster or card in their decks.
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Postby Kaibaland (Ancient) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:09 pm

I say limit it to one. It's quite punishing

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:09 pm

I am ambivalent in this situation.

While the deck with Village of the Spellcasters does block any spells placed on the field, it also doesn't make any unfair disadvantages to certain types of deck (mine being one of them that's immune to this card due to the sheer effect potential on my deck).

Although I know people do rely on spell cards, so this is why I am ambivalent.
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Postby Kaibalands » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:09 pm

Red Croatia wrote:The Third Athenian Court

Ladies and Gentlemen, My Beloved Duelists, Today we shall be discussing a unique spell card known as Secret Village of the Spellcasters.

(Image)

I myself, like many of you I believe are slightly concerned about this card. This card would be able to entirely block all the spell cards used by a certain someone very easily, therefore it is a important subject to debate.

Everyone and I mean Everyone, Is allowed to share his or her opinion here.

Let the discussion begin.


It is OP in a spellcaster deck yeah but not for complete banning. More like limited to one

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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:10 pm

Red Croatia wrote:Are you sure that you haven't skipped around..100% of them?



- No trap cards that don't belong to your archetype

Not sure how I'm violating this. I have Divine Wrath and Spell Vanishing, which both seem pretty suited to the Spellcaster archetype. The only questionable one is Royal Decree, but it does relate to idea of the Lockdown deck. And as my character bio indicates, he is fascinated with magical tricks/traps. Ie the Lockdown and Royal Decree.

- No cards after Yu-Gi-Oh 5d's (aka. no Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal cards).Exceptions will be made by me

None of my cards are after 5D's as far as I'm aware.

- No trap cards that belong to other archetypes/types/attributes or are specifically supported by an archetype/type/attribute then the one you chosen for your deck.

See above.

- No cards that have a major anime meaning,exceptions will be made by me here as well.

I'm assuming you mean Dark Magician. However I did state an IC reason for why he has it. I think it is a fair exception to make, considering the Dark Magician was never stated to be as rare as say Blue Eyes.
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Postby Kaibalands » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:12 pm

To be perfectly fair if we are gonna play big IC cards I want blue eyes :P

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Postby Kaibalands » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:14 pm

The same way he purchased his idol's card I could purchace the BEWD.

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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:14 pm

Dark Magicians are everywhere, they are not rare. However, it's weaker from = Dark Magician Girl is a unique one of a kind card.

And saying Royal Decree should be useable in your deck because it matches your theme would be like me saying I should use Torrential Tribute because it has a wave on it.

Divine Punishment doesn't match your deck whatsoever.

Chaos Magician belongs to the Chaos archetype.
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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:14 pm

Kaibalands wrote:The same way he purchased his idol's card I could purchace the BEWD.

Too bad only 4 BEWD's exist and 1 of them is torn apart.
"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:15 pm

Kaibalands wrote:To be perfectly fair if we are gonna play big IC cards I want blue eyes :P

Well unlike Blue Eyes, there has been no statement that there are only 4 Dark Magicians in the world.
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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:15 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Kaibalands wrote:To be perfectly fair if we are gonna play big IC cards I want blue eyes :P

Well unlike Blue Eyes, there has been no statement that there are only 4 Dark Magicians in the world.

Mhm.
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Postby Kaibalands » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:16 pm

Red Croatia wrote:
Kaibalands wrote:The same way he purchased his idol's card I could purchace the BEWD.

Too bad only 4 BEWD's exist and 1 of them is torn apart.


I could buy 1 of 3. Technically Seto either does not exist or is a legend of a sort.

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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:18 pm

Kaibalands wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:Too bad only 4 BEWD's exist and 1 of them is torn apart.


I could buy 1 of 3. Technically Seto either does not exist or is a legend of a sort.

No you couldn't.
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"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:19 pm

The OOC...

It's...Skyrocketing..
"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

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Postby Rynagria » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:20 pm

Red Croatia wrote:The OOC...

It's...Skyrocketing..

Maybe we'll actually get to 100.
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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:20 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:The OOC...

It's...Skyrocketing..

Maybe we'll actually get to 100.

We've been trough 12 pages today. We must keep this up tomorrow xD
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Postby Kaibaland (Ancient) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:21 pm

Red Croatia wrote:
Kaibalands wrote:
I could buy 1 of 3. Technically Seto either does not exist or is a legend of a sort.

No you couldn't.


I can come up with a million scenarios for one of them :P Just 1 not all 3.

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Postby Rynagria » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:21 pm

Red Croatia wrote:
Rynagria wrote:Maybe we'll actually get to 100.

We've been trough 12 pages today. We must keep this up tomorrow xD

Yes!
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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:21 pm

K, I was just searching some support for my water deck..And I think that Salvage should so get limited.
"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

I'm the kind of person that you don't want to get mad.

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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:21 pm

Kaibaland wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:No you couldn't.


I can come up with a million scenarios for one of them :P Just 1 not all 3.

I came up with one answer.

No.
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"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

I'm the kind of person that you don't want to get mad.

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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:22 pm

Red Croatia wrote:Dark Magicians are everywhere, they are not rare. However, it's weaker from = Dark Magician Girl is a unique one of a kind card.

Alright. Then I don't see the issue with that rule then.

And saying Royal Decree should be useable in your deck because it matches your theme would be like me saying I should use Torrential Tribute because it has a wave on it.

It's part of the Deck's theme of Lockdown. I think Torrential Tribute is perfectly legitimate in a water deck too. Especially Umi decks based on controlling the field.

Divine Punishment doesn't match your deck whatsoever.

Divine Wrath is magic. It's a magical bolt from the sky. .

Chaos Magician belongs to the Chaos archetype.

It's also a spell caster. And part of the magical Lockdown thing I'm going for.
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Postby Kaibalands » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:25 pm

1-Kaiba himself watching me perform with Dragons and giving me one
2-Stealing one and using him only in the underground circuit
3-Killing Kaiba
4-Kidnapping a member of the Kaiba family and taking a Blue-Eyes as ransom.
5-and many more

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Postby Red Croatia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:26 pm

Chaos Magician is banned by Konami since YGO GX sweetie. :palm:

Also, Please don't argue with me, I have treated everyone the same by now and I'm not planning on making exceptions, especially if they are so unnecessary and the only argument you presented is: "Their pictures look like something I'd relate to your archetype.".
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"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

I'm the kind of person that you don't want to get mad.

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