Under the Crimson Skies [OOC][Steampunk][Closed]

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Found some pics to chalk up the military host.

Shogun Goza, having demonstrated why O-Ryu are pathetic
The Shogun's youngest daughter, Hyorii

Third Oldest, Kanabi

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So if the ayes have it, then I have one thing to complain about: friggin' numbers.

[Caecuser]

So if the ayes have it, then I have one thing to complain about: friggin' numbers.

What numbers?

[The Dijel]

As much as I love watching you guys yell at each other in a keyboard-destroying rage, can we not do this again.

[Caecuser]

As much as I love watching you guys yell at each other in a keyboard-destroying rage, can we not do this again.

Don't worry; I'm sure that we'll be civil. I'm just trying to understand what their point is.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So if the ayes have it, then I have one thing to complain about: friggin' numbers.

What numbers?

Robots make terribly expensive cannon fodder.

[Caecuser]

What numbers?

Robots make terribly expensive cannon fodder.

I don't imagine that all of them will be used for cannon fodder; and I've not entirely decided who to fully use them since we haven't even started the RP mind you; no idea how it is all going to play out.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Robots make terribly expensive cannon fodder.

I don't imagine that all of them will be used for cannon fodder; and I've not entirely decided who to fully use them since we haven't even started the RP mind you; no idea how it is all going to play out.

Then why so many? What arrr you doing boy?

[Caecuser]

I don't imagine that all of them will be used for cannon fodder; and I've not entirely decided who to fully use them since we haven't even started the RP mind you; no idea how it is all going to play out.

Then why so many? What arrr you doing boy?

There is only ~700 000 of them, they're their to bolster the otherwise depleted Mercatorian ground forces; because the main interests of the Mercatoria is in sky-travel and trade, they do not have a particularly large army which is why the Mechanical units are being brought into play.

[The Dijel]

I don't imagine that all of them will be used for cannon fodder; and I've not entirely decided who to fully use them since we haven't even started the RP mind you; no idea how it is all going to play out.

Then why so many? What arrr you doing boy?

Well, who doesn't like robots?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Then why so many? What arrr you doing boy?

There is only ~700 000 of them, they're their to bolster the otherwise depleted Mercatorian ground forces; because the main interests of the Mercatoria is in sky-travel and trade, they do not have a particularly large army which is why the Mechanical units are being brought into play.

Except that makes little sense. Why not try to use what they're already good at (air travel) rather than make up for where they lack (ground forces)? And do you have any idea how expensive 700,000 robots automatons are? For the same price you can buy each soldier the full package to make them an elite force, or turn your country into a bastion.

[Caecuser]

There is only ~700 000 of them, they're their to bolster the otherwise depleted Mercatorian ground forces; because the main interests of the Mercatoria is in sky-travel and trade, they do not have a particularly large army which is why the Mechanical units are being brought into play.

Except that makes little sense. Why not try to use what they're already good at (air travel) rather than make up for where they lack (ground forces)? And do you have any idea how expensive 700,000 robots automatons are? For the same price you can buy each soldier the full package to make them an elite force, or turn your country into a bastion.

Ah well, why don't you ICly send my nation a letter.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Except that makes little sense. Why not try to use what they're already good at (air travel) rather than make up for where they lack (ground forces)? And do you have any idea how expensive 700,000 robots automatons are? For the same price you can buy each soldier the full package to make them an elite force, or turn your country into a bastion.

Ah well, why don't you ICly send my nation a letter.

How is that relevant?

[Caecuser]

Ah well, why don't you ICly send my nation a letter.

How is that relevant?

You can tell them how silly their investments are.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

How is that relevant?

You can tell them how silly their investments are.

Or I can tell you right now.

[Caecuser]

You can tell them how silly their investments are.

Or I can tell you right now.

I know that; I've heard your input.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Or I can tell you right now.

I know that; I've heard your input.

Anyway, so No wonder your economy's a five; you spent too much on cannon fodder.

[The Dijel]

Sooo much for keeping it civil.

How about, to settle your differences, each of you posts a short list including the pros/cons of some of your military units, then you can argue about ballance WITHOUT resorting to pettit insults. In fact, I'll do a list myself later and maybe some of the more sane guys could join in to help keep the peace.

I just like how this joinup session has been 75% about weather or not the Sci-fi Samurai will let steam-powered geth be used, even though he says they're silly, while a big fat bandit chief from the wrong side of the desert tries to keep the peace... Or am I getting too IC?

Maybe this will help?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y0abYKwRWlU

[Caecuser]

Sooo much for keeping it civil.

How about, to settle your differences, each of you posts a short list including the pros/cons of some of your military units, then you can argue about ballance WITHOUT resorting to pettit insults. In fact, I'll do a list myself later and maybe some of the more sane guys could join in to help keep the peace.

I just like how this joinup session has been 75% about weather or not the Sci-fi Samurai will let steam-powered geth be used, even though he says they're silly, while a big fat bandit chief from the wrong side of the desert tries to keep the peace... Or am I getting too IC?

I'm not arguing against anything he has; he just seems to have a problem with what I choose to RP with. Even though I've already stated that I won't be godmodding.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Sooo much for keeping it civil.

How about, to settle your differences, each of you posts a short list including the pros/cons of some of your military units, then you can argue about ballance WITHOUT resorting to pettit insults. In fact, I'll do a list myself later and maybe some of the more sane guys could join in to help keep the peace.

I just like how this joinup session has been 75% about weather or not the Sci-fi Samurai will let steam-powered geth be used, even though he says they're silly, while a big fat bandit chief from the wrong side of the desert tries to keep the peace... Or am I getting too IC?

I'm not arguing against anything he has; he just seems to have a problem with what I choose to RP with. Even though I've already stated that I won't be godmodding.

I stated the same; I'm just trying to help you out man.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Sooo much for keeping it civil.

How about, to settle your differences, each of you posts a short list including the pros/cons of some of your military units, then you can argue about ballance WITHOUT resorting to pettit insults. In fact, I'll do a list myself later and maybe some of the more sane guys could join in to help keep the peace.

I just like how this joinup session has been 75% about weather or not the Sci-fi Samurai will let steam-powered geth be used, even though he says they're silly, while a big fat bandit chief from the wrong side of the desert tries to keep the peace... Or am I getting too IC?

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Samurai!
Pros: highly trained, migh mobility
Cons: low-ish numbers(Compared to some people), poor artillery support

Defense Corps Infantry
Pro: decent training, excellent artillery
Con: static

O-Ryu
Pro: heavy armor, powerful armaments
Con: slow, heavy, breaks down too often
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/052/d/4/pure_steam___steam_tank_by_47ness-d5vs7ub.jpg

Naval Retainer Infantry
Pros: highly trained, migh mobility
Cons: low numbers(Compared to some people)

[United Soviet Jason Republic]

Well, i cant get a map to work, and yes i tried a photo uploader but i cant seem to find the upload part, just editing...

[The Dijel]

So you will listen to my reccomendations! Yay, lets all be more open about this:

UAAS Unit Pros/cons;

Alwemi Clansmen-
Pros
1) Strong in close-combat and at short range.
2) Brave and uncomprimising.
3) Numerous and expendable.

Cons
1) Unruly and truly without discipline.
2) Lack heavy weapons.
3) Impetuous and liable to charge forward uncontrollably.

Camel Gunners-
Pros
1) Have high-powered and accurate light cannon.
2) Highly manuverable.
3) Bridge the gap between high-calibre sniper rifles and light artillery.

Cons
1) Vulnerable to return fire.
2) Unable to destroy emplaced targets.
3) Difficult to train properly.

Landsailers-
Pros
1) Extrodenary straight-line speed.
2) Can mount heavy weapons.
3) Great for transporting assault platoons into close-quaters boarding actions.

Cons
1) Very little armour and toughness.
2) Difficult to stop quickly.
3) Do not work on rough ground like marshes, rocky hills or urban centres.

Alwemi-tan Guards-
Pros
1) Tough heavy infantry, capable of meeting foreign counterparts head on.
2) Strong shooting with small-arms and heavy weapons.
3) Equally strong in CQB.

Cons
1) Long training times and high standards mean heavy casuelties cannot be easily replaced.
2) Not as heavily armoured as other nations' heavy infantry.
3) Expensive, these men are give grants of land for their service, so are limited in numbers.

Alwemi Cavalry-
Pros
1) Very mobile and able to use all sorts of terrain.
2) High shock value, especially in melee.
3) Can skirmish very effectively with rifle fire while on the move.

Cons
1) Lack of heavy weapons.
2) Mostly unarmoured, so rely on speed for protection.
3) Poor training and low discipline make them flighty.

MK 3 Medium Landship-
Pros
1) Powerful armament compared to other comparable machines.
2) Carry assault teams for boarding actions.
3) The fastest and most manuverable landships avalable.

Cons
1) Lack the armour to last in a protracted firefight against comparable forces.
2) Low-tech engines give off lots of smoke, making daytime concealment hard.
3) Inexperienced crews.

See, we can comprimise.

[United Soviet Jason Republic]

So you will listen to my reccomendations! Yay, lets all be more open about this:

UAAS Unit Pros/cons;

Alwemi Clansmen-
Pros
1) Strong in close-combat and at short range.
2) Brave and uncomprimising.
3) Numerous and expendable.

Cons
1) Unruly and truly without discipline.
2) Lack heavy weapons.
3) Impetuous and liable to charge forward uncontrollably.

Camel Gunners-
Pros
1) Have high-powered and accurate light cannon.
2) Highly manuverable.
3) Bridge the gap between high-calibre sniper rifles and light artillery.

Cons
1) Vulnerable to return fire.
2) Unable to destroy emplaced targets.
3) Difficult to train properly.

Landsailers-
Pros
1) Extrodenary straight-line speed.
2) Can mount heavy weapons.
3) Great for transporting assault platoons into close-quaters boarding actions.

Cons
1) Very little armour and toughness.
2) Difficult to stop quickly.
3) Do not work on rough ground like marshes, rocky hills or urban centres.

Alwemi-tan Guards-
Pros
1) Tough heavy infantry, capable of meeting foreign counterparts head on.
2) Strong shooting with small-arms and heavy weapons.
3) Equally strong in CQB.

Cons
1) Long training times and high standards mean heavy casuelties cannot be easily replaced.
2) Not as heavily armoured as other nations' heavy infantry.
3) Expensive, these men are give grants of land for their service, so are limited in numbers.

Alwemi Cavalry-
Pros
1) Very mobile and able to use all sorts of terrain.
2) High shock value, especially in melee.
3) Can skirmish very effectively with rifle fire while on the move.

Cons
1) Lack of heavy weapons.
2) Mostly unarmoured, so rely on speed for protection.
3) Poor training and low discipline make them flighty.

MK 3 Medium Landship-
Pros
1) Powerful armament compared to other comparable machines.
2) Carry assault teams for boarding actions.
3) The fastest and most manuverable landships avalable.

Cons
1) Lack the armour to last in a protracted firefight against comparable forces.
2) Low-tech engines give off lots of smoke, making daytime concealment hard.
3) Inexperienced crews.

See, we can comprimise.

I applaud your openness and instead of writing a very detailed list about my army i will simply say that if you read it and imagine my units, you can easily picture the draw backs. E.G. A giant air carrier falling to the ground in flames after a hit by an enemy fighter, very large and heavy tanks that cant move supper quickly, ex...

[The Empire of Pretantia]

By the way, how'd you like my shogun's family?