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Allow Mechanical Troops?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:38 am

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 38

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Mauretania Tingitana
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:25 am

Caecuser wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Look, the O.P. has already forbidden it and I and several other players have expressed our desire to not have automated soldiers. It is far too easy to overpower them. You build more of them, they never say no or feel morale, etc. Then you'll advance them in the R.P. to the point where they're unstoppable. I say no robo-soldiers.


Are you trying to call me a God-modder before the RP has even begun? Why can't I be allowed ~700 000 Mechanical Soldiers when you can mobilize 5 000 000 Human Soldiers?

Stop trying to overblow them, they're nowhere near as overpowered as you.

They have great potential to be Godmodded. By anyone. Please, just accept majority rule and let it go.

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East Vlaricstan
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Postby East Vlaricstan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:36 am

Everyone, chill.

I'll put up a poll whether to allow mechanical troops.

Also, populations may change when we get the map up, depending on claimed land.
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:37 am

East Vlaricstan wrote:Everyone, chill.

I'll put up a poll whether to allow mechanical troops.

Also, populations may change when we get the map up, depending on claimed land.

(Purely a brainstorm) Would you be against using a R.L. map, just with different placenames?

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Caecuser
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Postby Caecuser » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:41 am

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
Are you trying to call me a God-modder before the RP has even begun? Why can't I be allowed ~700 000 Mechanical Soldiers when you can mobilize 5 000 000 Human Soldiers?

Stop trying to overblow them, they're nowhere near as overpowered as you.

They have great potential to be Godmodded. By anyone. Please, just accept majority rule and let it go.


Please, tell me this potential that apparently I have no choice to comply with. You don't think that 5 million troops is overpowered, but less than a million stumbling automatons is?

Majority rule is not always right.

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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:42 am

Caecuser wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:They have great potential to be Godmodded. By anyone. Please, just accept majority rule and let it go.


Please, tell me this potential that apparently I have no choice to comply with. You don't think that 5 million troops is overpowered, but less than a million stumbling automatons is?

Majority rule is not always right.

The O.P. said he would put it to a vote.

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Postby Caecuser » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:45 am

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
Please, tell me this potential that apparently I have no choice to comply with. You don't think that 5 million troops is overpowered, but less than a million stumbling automatons is?

Majority rule is not always right.

The O.P. said he would put it to a vote.


You're still ignoring the issue of free will here; I don't care if they have "potential" to be Overpowered, everything does. But I've said that I'll promise to not use them in a godmodding way; alright? What's wrong with that?

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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:46 am

Caecuser wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:The O.P. said he would put it to a vote.


You're still ignoring the issue of free will here; I don't care if they have "potential" to be Overpowered, everything does. But I've said that I'll promise to not use them in a godmodding way; alright? What's wrong with that?

If you don't comply with whatever will be the O.P.'s decision I'm assuming you won't be allowed to play. It's that simple.

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Postby Caecuser » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:47 am

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
You're still ignoring the issue of free will here; I don't care if they have "potential" to be Overpowered, everything does. But I've said that I'll promise to not use them in a godmodding way; alright? What's wrong with that?

If you don't comply with whatever will be the O.P.'s decision I'm assuming you won't be allowed to play. It's that simple.


Are you just deliberately ignoring all my arguments?

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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:52 am

Caecuser wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:If you don't comply with whatever will be the O.P.'s decision I'm assuming you won't be allowed to play. It's that simple.


Are you just deliberately ignoring all my arguments?

It's out of my hands! I have no authority! The O.P. said it will be voted on, so it will be voted on!

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The Dijel
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Postby The Dijel » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:52 am

The vote was a great idea, just as long as everyone agrees to follow the results. And could I point out that the whole idea of the points thing was to get players to trade-off abilities:

I have a very large reserve army BUT their training and equipment is highly questionable,

One of the other guys has 700,000 robotic soldiers, who are fallable, BUT only 300,000 human troops,

The point is that you have to give and take; yes, there is potential for abuse, but as long as everyone is sensable and respectful we should have no problems. :)
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Mauretania Tingitana
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:53 am

The Dijel wrote:The vote was a great idea, just as long as everyone agrees to follow the results. And could I point out that the whole idea of the points thing was to get players to trade-off abilities:

I have a very large reserve army BUT their training and equipment is highly questionable,

One of the other guys has 700,000 robotic soldiers, who are fallable, BUT only 300,000 human troops,

The point is that you have to give and take; yes, there is potential for abuse, but as long as everyone is sensable and respectful we should have no problems. :)

I have no qualms with that. :)

I suggest we drop it for now and wait for the voting.

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Postby East Vlaricstan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:55 am

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
East Vlaricstan wrote:Everyone, chill.

I'll put up a poll whether to allow mechanical troops.

Also, populations may change when we get the map up, depending on claimed land.

(Purely a brainstorm) Would you be against using a R.L. map, just with different placenames?


Custom map. My laptop is miraculously working again, so maybe tomorrow I can try my hand at mapmaking.
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Postby Caecuser » Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:04 am

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
The Dijel wrote:The vote was a great idea, just as long as everyone agrees to follow the results. And could I point out that the whole idea of the points thing was to get players to trade-off abilities:

I have a very large reserve army BUT their training and equipment is highly questionable,

One of the other guys has 700,000 robotic soldiers, who are fallable, BUT only 300,000 human troops,

The point is that you have to give and take; yes, there is potential for abuse, but as long as everyone is sensable and respectful we should have no problems. :)

I have no qualms with that. :)

I suggest we drop it for now and wait for the voting.


I still don't see why; like he said; it is a give-or-take situation and I think that it balances out. Also, voting situations like this do not work because of outside influence.

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Postby East Vlaricstan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:48 am

Caecuser wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:I have no qualms with that. :)

I suggest we drop it for now and wait for the voting.


I still don't see why; like he said; it is a give-or-take situation and I think that it balances out. Also, voting situations like this do not work because of outside influence.


I don't see why people who aren't joining would take time to vote.

Map will be ready tomorrow or the day after that, depending whether or not my computer feels like it.
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Grand Britannia wrote:I am saddened by the lack of total nuclear war spirit here.

Vultasia, about bacon wrote:Fuck you, heart. I eat what's tasty.
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Postby The Dijel » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:05 am

So roughly when do you reckon we'll be able to start?
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Postby East Vlaricstan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:07 am

The Dijel wrote:So roughly when do you reckon we'll be able to start?


When we get ten members or Saturday, whichever comes first.
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Factbook! Embassy Program!
DEFCON 1 - Total War
DEFCON 2 - Major Military Engagements Ongoing
DEFCON 3 - Minor Military Engagement Ongoing
DEFCON 4 - Increased readiness
DEFCON 5 - Peacetime
Grand Britannia wrote:I am saddened by the lack of total nuclear war spirit here.

Vultasia, about bacon wrote:Fuck you, heart. I eat what's tasty.
Socialist Filipino highschooler interested in wargames, anime and memes.
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56

IMPEACH HEALTH FOOD. LEGALIZE POTATO CHIPS. AIR IN BAGS IS THEFT. POTATO 2013

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Postby Fowlick » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:51 am

I thought I was accepted.
I thought I could do this again, but I have too much on my plate. I have to actually give up on this. Sorry everyone.

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Postby East Vlaricstan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:53 am

Fowlick wrote:I thought I was accepted.


Whoops. Edited.
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Factbook! Embassy Program!
DEFCON 1 - Total War
DEFCON 2 - Major Military Engagements Ongoing
DEFCON 3 - Minor Military Engagement Ongoing
DEFCON 4 - Increased readiness
DEFCON 5 - Peacetime
Grand Britannia wrote:I am saddened by the lack of total nuclear war spirit here.

Vultasia, about bacon wrote:Fuck you, heart. I eat what's tasty.
Socialist Filipino highschooler interested in wargames, anime and memes.
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56

IMPEACH HEALTH FOOD. LEGALIZE POTATO CHIPS. AIR IN BAGS IS THEFT. POTATO 2013

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Postby SuperHappySmileyWorld » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:12 am

Posting to show interest, and despite my... less than stellar mapping abilities, I will try

App to come shortly enough
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:39 am

Ya my mapping idea didn't work so ya... How does one get the link for a map?
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Postby Fowlick » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:46 am

Here are instructions for using that site I posted.

1) go to site
2)add whatever specs, and take off labeling and hex view
3)wait for map to be made
4)Once map is made save it to computer
5)take saved image through paint, shrink it to be under 9000 pixels, and label as you wish.
6)After editing image and saving it, upload it to a photo sharing site(pixlr, photobucket, maybe deviantart)
7)copy image URL of that final image and put it in here with the img bbcode
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:25 am

Wow, what a shitstorm robots caused. I was arguing against them because they're impractical, not OP.
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Postby The Dijel » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:36 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Wow, what a shitstorm robots caused. I was arguing against them because they're impractical, not OP.


Yep, you said it, a bigger shit-storm in a pint glass I never saw. But I really do not want to drag this whole thing up again too soon, I'd rather just work around.

Looking forward to seeing the map and getting started, this is the first proper RP I've participated in. :)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:42 am

The Dijel wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Wow, what a shitstorm robots caused. I was arguing against them because they're impractical, not OP.


Yep, you said it, a bigger shit-storm in a pint glass I never saw. But I really do not want to drag this whole thing up again too soon, I'd rather just work around.

Looking forward to seeing the map and getting started, this is the first proper RP I've participated in. :)

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ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:04 am

Are there any Commuism countries in this RP?
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