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by Grand Duchy of Nardin » Mon May 27, 2013 10:05 am
Sure! Just try to be a larger one so nobody tries to annex you...Reatra wrote:I'll look up the provinces of the HRE and see which I want to be, Okay?


by Lenciland » Mon May 27, 2013 10:21 am
Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 10:24 am

by Lenciland » Mon May 27, 2013 10:33 am
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:It is still Open. SO is Venice.
Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.


by Lenciland » Mon May 27, 2013 10:55 am
Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

by Pavlostani » Mon May 27, 2013 12:55 pm
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:It is still Open. SO is Venice.

by Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 1:08 pm

by Pavlostani » Mon May 27, 2013 2:03 pm
Reatra wrote:In 1950 Ethiopia had 18 million, that was AFTER the agricultural revolution, let's just say a little less than ten million for realism.

by The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon May 27, 2013 2:16 pm
Alleniana wrote:Alright.
I have many, many issues.
1. So, what is the population of Ethiopia? if they can afford to send 100k men away from the homeland to some far flung place, then they must have at least 10 million people, which I doubt, but I may be wrong.
2. How the HELL are the two big Muslim nations supporting that number of troops? Their armies are the size of armies typically found in the Industrial Revolution era, or thereabout. Moving them through the desert and not even posting about supplies? Wtf?
3. What is the population of Carthage? You have 80,000 men, which I doubt greatly. Even the Angevin empire would barely be able to muster that number of professionals, although with defensive advantage, I suppose that makes a point.
4. How come you keep saying you have a big-ass navy? When I conquered Florence, I conquered it upstream. Your managing to get people there at all was a miracle, which, in retrospect, looks like a massive glaring godmod. Not to mention, you have only had about 50 years to build up (I think?) with a small-ish country, newly established and mainly in the desert.
5. So, how is Carthage going to be conquered? Spam men at it? Sure, eventually, ignoring logistics, you might win. But do you really think hundreds of thousands of men will be like "eh, whatever" and rush at a wall they have seen possibly hundreds of thousands die attacking continually? Ignoring logistics, so this army may not even exist.
6. Death ratios. No. The attacker must have approximately 20 times the defenders to be definite of victory (as in, certain) , at least 10 times to be sane and attempt an attack, and at the very least, 5 times the attackers if they even want a chance to win.
7. Navy. Not sure what everyone's views on it are, but this is mine.
Me and Kiev win.
I am the foremost Mediterranean maritime power, with over a thousand vessels. Kiev, not sure, but they have claimed to be as powerful or even more so than me, and although that MAY be an exaggeration, they are still the undoubted boss of the Black Sea and a major Mediterranean power. You may have noticed that we are both on the same side, along with some other powers. On the Muslim side, we have two non-naval concentrated countries with relatively few trees, one of which has a Red Sea focused navy. So not strong. Then there's Ethiopia, which will have to sail their navy, likely not too big, around Africa. So no to that as well.
8. Money? Money. Listen. When you hire mercs, you need buttloads of money. They are quite literally putting their lives on the line to do something that will take a lot of time, resources, trust, energy and stuff in return for money. They are risking their livelihood. So you'd assume you need a lot of money. You get money from taxes. When 2.5% of your population is on a massive war, you will already be massively short on money. Also, money is hard to get you know. You don't just say "oh, I mined this" and suddenly have lots of money. Money is very hard to get, and very hard to retain. So keep that in mind.
9. Travelling. How did all of you suddenly pop into existence armies of thousands, then have them pop somewhere? Not all of you are guilty, but a few are. You can only move from about one side of the Nile Delta to the other in a week if you want them to be able to fight at the end. Also, mobilizing takes lots of time and organization. Your army doesn't just sit in the capital smoking every day. If it, did everyone would be bankrupt.

by The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon May 27, 2013 2:24 pm

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 2:25 pm

by Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:27 pm

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 2:28 pm
Reatra wrote:Well! Give me a break for Ethiopia's pop. I was trying to make it realistic for the RP! I think he already has sent out a big army, so ho would "a few hundred thousand" work?

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 2:35 pm
Reatra wrote:Is it another African State or is it Ethiopia that has all the gold in it?
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