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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 10:02 am

I'll look up the provinces of the HRE and see which I want to be, Okay?
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Grand Duchy of Nardin
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Postby Grand Duchy of Nardin » Mon May 27, 2013 10:05 am

Reatra wrote:I'll look up the provinces of the HRE and see which I want to be, Okay?
Sure! Just try to be a larger one so nobody tries to annex you... ;)
Grand Duke Nicholas II/Ducisk av Nårdinisc

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 10:13 am

Is Luxembourg taken? It seems to... suit my needs. *maniacal laughter*
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Lenciland
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Postby Lenciland » Mon May 27, 2013 10:21 am

Is this open? If so can I have the Most Serene Republic of Venice.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 10:24 am

It is still Open. SO is Venice.
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Lenciland
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Postby Lenciland » Mon May 27, 2013 10:33 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:It is still Open. SO is Venice.

Cool so can I join?
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 10:35 am

Lenciland wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:It is still Open. SO is Venice.

Cool so can I join?

Yes.
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Lenciland
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Postby Lenciland » Mon May 27, 2013 10:55 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Lenciland wrote:Cool so can I join?

Yes.

Superb.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Mon May 27, 2013 12:55 pm

Really. Five pages while I'm gone and I have almost nothing to say? Let's see.

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:It is still Open. SO is Venice.


Roster shall be rosterfied. Welcome to 1252 Lenciland. And Reatra, glad you switched. Makes my job as the mongol horde so much easier.
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 1:08 pm

Yes, and the second Genghis or whichever one of you is leader now dies the entire Mongol Empire collapses except in China. So by the time you get to me the people in China will hate you already, rebel, and since your messaging system, although efficient for the time, is no match for sending an army across Asia before it turns into a full-scale revolution.

So yeah, I'm gonna pretend to be scared.
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 1:11 pm

Actually, I'll be Lorraine. it has lots of iron and coal!
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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Mon May 27, 2013 1:13 pm

What is the population of Ethiopia.

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 1:22 pm

In 1950 Ethiopia had 18 million, that was AFTER the agricultural revolution, let's just say a little less than ten million for realism.
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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Mon May 27, 2013 2:03 pm

Reatra wrote:In 1950 Ethiopia had 18 million, that was AFTER the agricultural revolution, let's just say a little less than ten million for realism.


Um... a statistic from seven hundred years after our RP doesn't mean much to us.
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The imperial canadian dutchy
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon May 27, 2013 2:16 pm

Alleniana wrote:Alright.
I have many, many issues.
1. So, what is the population of Ethiopia? if they can afford to send 100k men away from the homeland to some far flung place, then they must have at least 10 million people, which I doubt, but I may be wrong.
2. How the HELL are the two big Muslim nations supporting that number of troops? Their armies are the size of armies typically found in the Industrial Revolution era, or thereabout. Moving them through the desert and not even posting about supplies? Wtf?
3. What is the population of Carthage? You have 80,000 men, which I doubt greatly. Even the Angevin empire would barely be able to muster that number of professionals, although with defensive advantage, I suppose that makes a point.
4. How come you keep saying you have a big-ass navy? When I conquered Florence, I conquered it upstream. Your managing to get people there at all was a miracle, which, in retrospect, looks like a massive glaring godmod. Not to mention, you have only had about 50 years to build up (I think?) with a small-ish country, newly established and mainly in the desert.
5. So, how is Carthage going to be conquered? Spam men at it? Sure, eventually, ignoring logistics, you might win. But do you really think hundreds of thousands of men will be like "eh, whatever" and rush at a wall they have seen possibly hundreds of thousands die attacking continually? Ignoring logistics, so this army may not even exist.
6. Death ratios. No. The attacker must have approximately 20 times the defenders to be definite of victory (as in, certain) , at least 10 times to be sane and attempt an attack, and at the very least, 5 times the attackers if they even want a chance to win.
7. Navy. Not sure what everyone's views on it are, but this is mine.
Me and Kiev win.
I am the foremost Mediterranean maritime power, with over a thousand vessels. Kiev, not sure, but they have claimed to be as powerful or even more so than me, and although that MAY be an exaggeration, they are still the undoubted boss of the Black Sea and a major Mediterranean power. You may have noticed that we are both on the same side, along with some other powers. On the Muslim side, we have two non-naval concentrated countries with relatively few trees, one of which has a Red Sea focused navy. So not strong. Then there's Ethiopia, which will have to sail their navy, likely not too big, around Africa. So no to that as well.
8. Money? Money. Listen. When you hire mercs, you need buttloads of money. They are quite literally putting their lives on the line to do something that will take a lot of time, resources, trust, energy and stuff in return for money. They are risking their livelihood. So you'd assume you need a lot of money. You get money from taxes. When 2.5% of your population is on a massive war, you will already be massively short on money. Also, money is hard to get you know. You don't just say "oh, I mined this" and suddenly have lots of money. Money is very hard to get, and very hard to retain. So keep that in mind.
9. Travelling. How did all of you suddenly pop into existence armies of thousands, then have them pop somewhere? Not all of you are guilty, but a few are. You can only move from about one side of the Nile Delta to the other in a week if you want them to be able to fight at the end. Also, mobilizing takes lots of time and organization. Your army doesn't just sit in the capital smoking every day. If it, did everyone would be bankrupt.

Big ass is not the correct word, 400 ships manned by a legion isn't that big
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:17 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Reatra wrote:In 1950 Ethiopia had 18 million, that was AFTER the agricultural revolution, let's just say a little less than ten million for realism.


Um... a statistic from seven hundred years after our RP doesn't mean much to us.

Still, it's realistic
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The imperial canadian dutchy
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon May 27, 2013 2:24 pm

Reatra wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:
Um... a statistic from seven hundred years after our RP doesn't mean much to us.

Still, it's realistic

No its not.......in this Time France had a population of what 6 million today it is more than 60 Million
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 2:25 pm

Ethiopia, in her diminutive state, probably had a pop of of a few hundred thousand. The total Pop of Africa at the time was about 11 million, minus the 4 million for Eugpt and N. Africa and you get 7 million available for the rest of africa.http://www.worldhistorysite.com/population.html

Scratch that. Africa had 11% of the worlds population. So 36 million, subtract 4 for N. African strip, leaves 32 million for rest of Africa. At most a million or two in Ethiopia.
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:26 pm

Isn't there a secret rebellion or planing of one going on in the HRE, Or is it an outright rebellion with battles and such.
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:27 pm

Well! Give me a break for Ethiopia's pop. I was trying to make it realistic for the RP! I think he already has sent out a big army, so ho would "a few hundred thousand" work?
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 2:28 pm

Reatra wrote:Well! Give me a break for Ethiopia's pop. I was trying to make it realistic for the RP! I think he already has sent out a big army, so ho would "a few hundred thousand" work?

Badly, relative to his economy.
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:33 pm

Is it another African State or is it Ethiopia that has all the gold in it?
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon May 27, 2013 2:35 pm

Reatra wrote:Is it another African State or is it Ethiopia that has all the gold in it?

Technically, Ethiopia has gold. Not much, but it does. Mali, South Africa and Ghana have the "Most"
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:35 pm

Ooooh, I see someone is Venice.... If he can refrain from making enemies I would LOVE to be a friend to him.

:D
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon May 27, 2013 2:36 pm

South Africa has gold AND diamonds, wow. I never knew that.
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