Roleplay of the World 1252 (OOC, Open)

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Nor have I seen one genocide...

[Valentir]

Nor have I seen one genocide...

Ha. That will be coming someone's way soon. Ethiopia is a sleeping giant. And I just awoke. So however is in my path will not have much left subjects wise.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Nor have I seen one genocide...

Ha. That will be coming someone's way soon. Ethiopia is a sleeping giant. And I just awoke. So however is in my path will not have much left subjects wise.

....Yeah when I get to a certain Muslim land....im going Third Reich on them...

[Valentir]

Ha. That will be coming someone's way soon. Ethiopia is a sleeping giant. And I just awoke. So however is in my path will not have much left subjects wise.

....Yeah when I get to a certain Muslim land....im going Third Reich on them...

I'll help. Though the Ayyubids shouldn't get the full force hit. Just a little smack on the check. I mean I do need more subjects

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

....Yeah when I get to a certain Muslim land....im going Third Reich on them...

I'll help. Though the Ayyubids shouldn't get the full force hit. Just a little smack on the check. I mean I do need more subjects

I will take their daughters then kill their Babies infront of them.....Then they will die in front of their Husbands....then they will die...

[Valentir]

I'll help. Though the Ayyubids shouldn't get the full force hit. Just a little smack on the check. I mean I do need more subjects

I will take their daughters then kill their Babies infront of them.....Then they will die in front of their Husbands....then they will die...

Umm...... Yeah I won't go that far. But hey send me some women while you are at it

[Mishmahig]

Lol Once this Crusade is gone there is literally nothing stopping us from removing you.

Except the fact that is threat. And now I know which side will see me through. Well done MT. Ayyubid player MT just lost you an ally. Time to go talk with the reasonable and respectable pope. Someone who does not threaten me and enjoys my council and respect me.

Bohemia will pay you to back the Ayyubids.

Mostly because most of the countries currently involved in the Crusade are counters to Bohemia's ambitions and goals. Having the Islamic nations collapse or falter too soon would lead to them returning their attentions to the European sphere of things, and they might start taking a greater interest in what is happening in the Bohemian-Bavarian war.

He has Bulgaria-Romainia's support

Good. I'm using a lot of old connections now. If MT cannot respect Ethiopia then Ethiopia will go with the side that will respect her.

As the Kingdom of Prester John, or so we'd believe, Bohemia would certainly treat Ethiopia as a valued and prestigious Christian ally. Should things develop to that point, of course. Depending on when I have time, I'll have a courtier make a speech to your King.

Please. Quit being cocky and get this through your skull EVERY CHRISTIAN NATION IN THIS RP IS AGAINST YOU! And with BM as England and England being able to muster 100,000 men the odds just rose in our favour.

Not quite all of them, but yes, quite a few.

I also haven't seen England being all that active. Are they?

Oh damn. Well its been months since I got it and I have a large amount of blacksmiths and armourers.

Oh it sucks. I have done smithing IRL and making a patch of mail took me ages.

Dang, man, it took me a week just to get two plates of steel to melt together, let alone shaping them. Lotsa respect for that.

No, on the months passing.

Oh few, cause I was going to say, I have a scar, in the same place from where a Guard Dog bit me on Halloween, from backing into a hot anvil.

Yeah, I have a burn mark on my inner arm where a spark got to an exposed piece of skin. Stupid oversized protective gloves, slipping down >.>

Romanians don't exist yet.

Not to mention how Bulgars loathed the vlachs.

What is it impossible for Them to have a Tolerant king for peoples in his kingdom?

No, it's just really hard to juggle a bunch of different nationalities that don't like or trust each other. Every nation in the Balkans has run into this problem one time or another.

Then 30,000 of my men are armed then. And full sets, not just pieces. And I can pay the bill. And how many armour sets would I have from conquests seeing as I salvaged a lot of armour and weapons.

Spears, you mean?

Do you realize how uncomfortable metal armor is in the heat by the equator?

They wore very light leather. No helmets either. Very uncomfortable.

It's one of the major disadvantages of the Crusaders. They relied heavily on the shock and awe strategies of the knights, who also formed the core of any major European army. Utilized properly, a cavalry charge was absolutely devastating---and the knights themselves were no slouches at fighting.

Their downside? That metal armor gets darn hot in the middle east/Iberia. And knights aren't used to fighting without armor. The Muslim armies, on the other hand, were not only used to fighting in the heat, with limited water supplies, but also had adapted fighting techniques and armor strategies perfectly suited for the situation. Silk, cotton, and light leather armor---not effective in close combat, but then again, neither is a tired, dehydrated, and overheated knight boiling in his own cook-pot.

Something tells me that getting stabbed with a spear is more uncomfortable.

I'll have to ask Julia what it feels like after last night.

Oh myyy.

I don't think I can look at you the same way again, Inesea. Tsk.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Except the fact that is threat. And now I know which side will see me through. Well done MT. Ayyubid player MT just lost you an ally. Time to go talk with the reasonable and respectable pope. Someone who does not threaten me and enjoys my council and respect me.

Bohemia will pay you to back the Ayyubids.

Mostly because most of the countries currently involved in the Crusade are counters to Bohemia's ambitions and goals. Having the Islamic nations collapse or falter too soon would lead to them returning their attentions to the European sphere of things, and they might start taking a greater interest in what is happening in the Bohemian-Bavarian war.

Good. I'm using a lot of old connections now. If MT cannot respect Ethiopia then Ethiopia will go with the side that will respect her.

As the Kingdom of Prester John, or so we'd believe, Bohemia would certainly treat Ethiopia as a valued and prestigious Christian ally. Should things develop to that point, of course. Depending on when I have time, I'll have a courtier make a speech to your King.

Please. Quit being cocky and get this through your skull EVERY CHRISTIAN NATION IN THIS RP IS AGAINST YOU! And with BM as England and England being able to muster 100,000 men the odds just rose in our favour.

Not quite all of them, but yes, quite a few.

I also haven't seen England being all that active. Are they?

Oh it sucks. I have done smithing IRL and making a patch of mail took me ages.

Dang, man, it took me a week just to get two plates of steel to melt together, let alone shaping them. Lotsa respect for that.

Oh few, cause I was going to say, I have a scar, in the same place from where a Guard Dog bit me on Halloween, from backing into a hot anvil.

Yeah, I have a burn mark on my inner arm where a spark got to an exposed piece of skin. Stupid oversized protective gloves, slipping down >.>

What is it impossible for Them to have a Tolerant king for peoples in his kingdom?

No, it's just really hard to juggle a bunch of different nationalities that don't like or trust each other. Every nation in the Balkans has run into this problem one time or another.

Spears, you mean?

Do you realize how uncomfortable metal armor is in the heat by the equator?

They wore very light leather. No helmets either. Very uncomfortable.

It's one of the major disadvantages of the Crusaders. They relied heavily on the shock and awe strategies of the knights, who also formed the core of any major European army. Utilized properly, a cavalry charge was absolutely devastating---and the knights themselves were no slouches at fighting.

Their downside? That metal armor gets darn hot in the middle east/Iberia. And knights aren't used to fighting without armor. The Muslim armies, on the other hand, were not only used to fighting in the heat, with limited water supplies, but also had adapted fighting techniques and armor strategies perfectly suited for the situation. Silk, cotton, and light leather armor---not effective in close combat, but then again, neither is a tired, dehydrated, and overheated knight boiling in his own cook-pot.

I'll have to ask Julia what it feels like after last night.

Oh myyy.

I don't think I can look at you the same way again, Inesea. Tsk.

What's your angle?

[G-Tech Corporation]

@ MT: The one that, OOCly, causes lulz. Also, the one that, ICly, causes Bohemia to be interdicted for siding with heathens.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

@ MT: The one that, OOCly, causes lulz. Also, the one that, ICly, causes Bohemia to be interdicted for siding with heathens.

Hey, I'm not complaining.

By the way, I thought it was agreed that Ethiopia only has 50,000 troops. Now he has 100,000?

[G-Tech Corporation]

@ MT: The one that, OOCly, causes lulz. Also, the one that, ICly, causes Bohemia to be interdicted for siding with heathens.

Hey, I'm not complaining.

By the way, I thought it was agreed that Ethiopia only has 50,000 troops. Now he has 100,000?

*shrug*

If he's calling up his seasonal forces he could hit 200k tribesmen, for four pages of IC or thereabouts. It is the fallow time in Ethiopia currently.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Hey, I'm not complaining.

By the way, I thought it was agreed that Ethiopia only has 50,000 troops. Now he has 100,000?

*shrug*

If he's calling up his seasonal forces he could hit 200k tribesmen, for four pages of IC or thereabouts. It is the fallow time in Ethiopia currently.

And I was criticized for 5%?

I was under the impression that 5% of our population was the very maximum, only sustainable for months at best. More than that is simply unsustainable.

[Mishmahig]

@ MT: The one that, OOCly, causes lulz. Also, the one that, ICly, causes Bohemia to be interdicted for siding with heathens.

Nonsense.

Since the Pope already warned Bavaria on my behalf, he can't go about telling me not to do things without undermining himself throughout the entire Holy Roman Empire and sending massively confusing and conflicting messages throughout the entire Catholic world. As such, the Pope really has no choice but to stay silent and tacitly ignore whatever I'm doing.

Of course, this would assume that he does know what I'm doing, which is not guaranteed by any means. It's not like I'm going to openly announce that I'm giving gold and support to the Ethiopians in exchange for supporting the Ayyubids. >.>

Also, I kinda already explained my angle. Bohemia has unrestricted play throughout Germany, but that won't last if other Catholic nations start to poke around in Bohemia's sphere of influence. Bohemia's best option at the moment is to keep the other nations distracted while it solidifies its power base to the point where it can make a successful bid to the chair of the Holy Roman Emperor, and from there, become a major power player on a regional scale.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

@ MT: The one that, OOCly, causes lulz. Also, the one that, ICly, causes Bohemia to be interdicted for siding with heathens.

Nonsense.

Since the Pope already warned Bavaria on my behalf, he can't go about telling me not to do things without undermining himself throughout the entire Holy Roman Empire and sending massively confusing and conflicting messages throughout the entire Catholic world. As such, the Pope really has no choice but to stay silent and tacitly ignore whatever I'm doing.

Of course, this would assume that he does know what I'm doing, which is not guaranteed by any means. It's not like I'm going to openly announce that I'm giving gold and support to the Ethiopians in exchange for supporting the Ayyubids. >.>

Also, I kinda already explained my angle. Bohemia has unrestricted play throughout Germany, but that won't last if other Catholic nations start to poke around in Bohemia's sphere of influence. Bohemia's best option at the moment is to keep the other nations distracted while it solidifies its power base to the point where it can make a successful bid to the chair of the Holy Roman Emperor, and from there, become a major power player on a regional scale.

Good Mithras, it's refreshing to see someone play with tact and realism.

[Mishmahig]

Nonsense.

Since the Pope already warned Bavaria on my behalf, he can't go about telling me not to do things without undermining himself throughout the entire Holy Roman Empire and sending massively confusing and conflicting messages throughout the entire Catholic world. As such, the Pope really has no choice but to stay silent and tacitly ignore whatever I'm doing.

Of course, this would assume that he does know what I'm doing, which is not guaranteed by any means. It's not like I'm going to openly announce that I'm giving gold and support to the Ethiopians in exchange for supporting the Ayyubids. >.>

Also, I kinda already explained my angle. Bohemia has unrestricted play throughout Germany, but that won't last if other Catholic nations start to poke around in Bohemia's sphere of influence. Bohemia's best option at the moment is to keep the other nations distracted while it solidifies its power base to the point where it can make a successful bid to the chair of the Holy Roman Emperor, and from there, become a major power player on a regional scale.

Good Mithras, it's refreshing to see someone play with tact and realism.

Of course, this assumes Bohemia survives the Bavarian war.

Otherwise, I'll have to switch to another nation.

Edit: Also, I really should be writing my presentation, not figuring out how to manipulate international affairs in a medieval RP. Alas. No sleep tonight.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Good Mithras, it's refreshing to see someone play with tact and realism.

Of course, this assumes Bohemia survives the Bavarian war.

Otherwise, I'll have to switch to another nation.

You should take a country with size and significance. England is apparently taken, though the player hasn't been very active. There is also Turkey and Persia...

You know, if you're willing, I would consider releasing Iberia as an independent Muslim state....

[Mishmahig]

Of course, this assumes Bohemia survives the Bavarian war.

Otherwise, I'll have to switch to another nation.

You should take a country with size and significance. England is apparently taken, though the player hasn't been very active. There is also Turkey and Persia...

You know, if you're willing, I would consider releasing Iberia as an independent Muslim state....

Perhaps Sicily, since I think that player switched to England.

Either way, I'll still try my best to win the Bohemian-Bavarian war realistically, of course.


And nah, don't release it. It'd just serve to weaken the entire area in the long run. Just exploit their weaknesses and play on your own strengths. A European victory is by no means assured, as you stand in a far stronger position than IRL, without having suffered over five hundred years of Reconquista already. You can pull off a victory, or at least a draw.

[G-Tech Corporation]

You should take a country with size and significance. England is apparently taken, though the player hasn't been very active. There is also Turkey and Persia...

You know, if you're willing, I would consider releasing Iberia as an independent Muslim state....

Perhaps Sicily, since I think that player switched to England.

Either way, I'll still try my best to win the Bohemian-Bavarian war realistically, of course.


And nah, don't release it. It'd just serve to weaken the entire area in the long run. Just exploit their weaknesses and play on your own strengths. A European victory is by no means assured, as you stand in a far stronger position than IRL, without having suffered over five hundred years of Reconquista already. You can pull off a victory, or at least a draw.

Actually, in this history, Castille, Aragon et al were only put down twenty years ago. They had quite some success before that, insofar as they had almost retaken all of Iberia.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

You should take a country with size and significance. England is apparently taken, though the player hasn't been very active. There is also Turkey and Persia...

You know, if you're willing, I would consider releasing Iberia as an independent Muslim state....

Perhaps Sicily, since I think that player switched to England.

Either way, I'll still try my best to win the Bohemian-Bavarian war realistically, of course.


And nah, don't release it. It'd just serve to weaken the entire area in the long run. Just exploit their weaknesses and play on your own strengths. A European victory is by no means assured, as you stand in a far stronger position than IRL, without having suffered over five hundred years of Reconquista already. You can pull off a victory, or at least a draw.

I'm guessing Sicily is still a Norman-ruled multi-ethnic state, as there was no Crown of Aragon to inherit the throne, and the Venetians seem to pale in comparison to Pisa.

A draw is a victory in my case. But your words cleanse my spirit, sensei.

Honestly, I've just been waiting for the Mongols and Plague to come and subside, allowing the Age of Discovery to come forth and to get these damn, dirty Christians off my back for once. -_-

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Perhaps Sicily, since I think that player switched to England.

Either way, I'll still try my best to win the Bohemian-Bavarian war realistically, of course.


And nah, don't release it. It'd just serve to weaken the entire area in the long run. Just exploit their weaknesses and play on your own strengths. A European victory is by no means assured, as you stand in a far stronger position than IRL, without having suffered over five hundred years of Reconquista already. You can pull off a victory, or at least a draw.

Actually, in this history, Castille, Aragon et al were only put down twenty years ago. They had quite some success before that, insofar as they had almost retaken all of Iberia.

? When did that happen? Aragon never made any significant progress. I stopped them and took Aragon in 1224. Then Leon and Castile afterwards. So really only the northern fringes are perhaps rebellious. The central and south is Muslim, and has been since the 600's.

[Mishmahig]

Perhaps Sicily, since I think that player switched to England.

Either way, I'll still try my best to win the Bohemian-Bavarian war realistically, of course.


And nah, don't release it. It'd just serve to weaken the entire area in the long run. Just exploit their weaknesses and play on your own strengths. A European victory is by no means assured, as you stand in a far stronger position than IRL, without having suffered over five hundred years of Reconquista already. You can pull off a victory, or at least a draw.

Actually, in this history, Castille, Aragon et al were only put down twenty years ago. They had quite some success before that, insofar as they had almost retaken all of Iberia.

I checked the last IC, but it referred to a long, drawn out war that hadn't brought much success to either side. Muslim forces were mentioned in Valencia, which is pretty far up the Iberian peninsula, and fighting was spread up and down the coastline....

Either way, the Almohades are not going to be defeated/destroyed in one Crusade. Not unless MT does something silly, and I hope s/he won't.

Perhaps Sicily, since I think that player switched to England.

Either way, I'll still try my best to win the Bohemian-Bavarian war realistically, of course.


And nah, don't release it. It'd just serve to weaken the entire area in the long run. Just exploit their weaknesses and play on your own strengths. A European victory is by no means assured, as you stand in a far stronger position than IRL, without having suffered over five hundred years of Reconquista already. You can pull off a victory, or at least a draw.

I'm guessing Sicily is still a Norman-ruled multi-ethnic state, as there was no Crown of Aragon to inherit the throne, and the Venetians seem to pale in comparison to Pisa.

A draw is a victory in my case. But your words cleanse my spirit, sensei.

Honestly, I've just been waiting for the Mongols and Plague to come and subside, allowing the Age of Discovery to come forth and to get these damn, dirty Christians off my back for once. -_-

Quite, but that's half the fun!

And yeah, if you want me to help out OOC, I'm always willing to type a few sentences...I could even RP some aspects if you want me to.

[The Soviet Union of Mother Russia]

Alright I'm back, here we go. 12 pages of OOC...goddamm timezones.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Actually, in this history, Castille, Aragon et al were only put down twenty years ago. They had quite some success before that, insofar as they had almost retaken all of Iberia.

I checked the last IC, but it referred to a long, drawn out war that hadn't brought much success to either side. Muslim forces were mentioned in Valencia, which is pretty far up the Iberian peninsula, and fighting was spread up and down the coastline....

Either way, the Almohades are not going to be defeated/destroyed in one Crusade. Not unless MT does something silly, and I hope s/he won't.

I'm guessing Sicily is still a Norman-ruled multi-ethnic state, as there was no Crown of Aragon to inherit the throne, and the Venetians seem to pale in comparison to Pisa.

A draw is a victory in my case. But your words cleanse my spirit, sensei.

Honestly, I've just been waiting for the Mongols and Plague to come and subside, allowing the Age of Discovery to come forth and to get these damn, dirty Christians off my back for once. -_-

Quite, but that's half the fun!

And yeah, if you want me to help out OOC, I'm always willing to type a few sentences...I could even RP some aspects if you want me to.

She won't, don't worry.

I could use some help I.C......

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Alright I'm back, here we go. 12 pages of OOC...goddamm timezones.

Christians are acting tough and there was a lot of harsh bickering. Also, the Mongols are screwing around.

Time saved!

[Mishmahig]

I checked the last IC, but it referred to a long, drawn out war that hadn't brought much success to either side. Muslim forces were mentioned in Valencia, which is pretty far up the Iberian peninsula, and fighting was spread up and down the coastline....

Either way, the Almohades are not going to be defeated/destroyed in one Crusade. Not unless MT does something silly, and I hope s/he won't.



Quite, but that's half the fun!

And yeah, if you want me to help out OOC, I'm always willing to type a few sentences...I could even RP some aspects if you want me to.

She won't, don't worry.

I could use some help I.C......

I can't help you directly, sorry.

I can RP some aspects if you want. Anything particularly standing out?