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by Inoroth » Wed May 29, 2013 6:18 pm

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by The imperial canadian dutchy » Wed May 29, 2013 6:24 pm
by Inoroth » Wed May 29, 2013 6:36 pm

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed May 29, 2013 6:36 pm
Inoroth wrote:I have a question: would it be total godmoding to have my army peacefully march through the HRE, picking up contingents from various HRE states as they go, so that by the end of it, there is a decent-sized force representing the HRE in Carthage?
by Inoroth » Wed May 29, 2013 6:40 pm
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Inoroth wrote:I have a question: would it be total godmoding to have my army peacefully march through the HRE, picking up contingents from various HRE states as they go, so that by the end of it, there is a decent-sized force representing the HRE in Carthage?
NOPe. That's basically every crusade out there.


by Mauretania Tingitana » Wed May 29, 2013 6:41 pm
Inoroth wrote:I have a question: would it be total godmoding to have my army peacefully march through the HRE, picking up contingents from various HRE states as they go, so that by the end of it, there is a decent-sized force representing the HRE in Carthage?
EDIT* I am thinking on the order of 1,000 Knights, 5,000 Peasant Spearmen, and perhaps 3,000 or so Archers (not longbowmen, of course, but the garden variety.

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed May 29, 2013 6:42 pm
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Inoroth wrote:I have a question: would it be total godmoding to have my army peacefully march through the HRE, picking up contingents from various HRE states as they go, so that by the end of it, there is a decent-sized force representing the HRE in Carthage?
EDIT* I am thinking on the order of 1,000 Knights, 5,000 Peasant Spearmen, and perhaps 3,000 or so Archers (not longbowmen, of course, but the garden variety.
Sure, that sounds fair.
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You guys need to realize that no one cared for the Crusader States in Europe. The first 4 were profitable, then they lost interest. What king would focus all of his effort into defending land that profits him in no way, shape or form?

by Mauretania Tingitana » Wed May 29, 2013 6:44 pm
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Sure, that sounds fair.
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You guys need to realize that no one cared for the Crusader States in Europe. The first 4 were profitable, then they lost interest. What king would focus all of his effort into defending land that profits him in no way, shape or form?
Because Carthage is prosperous.

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed May 29, 2013 6:45 pm

by Mauretania Tingitana » Wed May 29, 2013 6:46 pm

by The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
by Inoroth » Wed May 29, 2013 6:51 pm
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Sure, that sounds fair.
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You guys need to realize that no one cared for the Crusader States in Europe. The first 4 were profitable, then they lost interest. What king would focus all of his effort into defending land that profits him in no way, shape or form?
Because Carthage is prosperous.


by The imperial canadian dutchy » Wed May 29, 2013 6:52 pm
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:With the gold in his treasury. And, In case he falls, I took a down payment.

by Mauretania Tingitana » Wed May 29, 2013 6:53 pm
by Inoroth » Wed May 29, 2013 7:09 pm

by Mauretania Tingitana » Wed May 29, 2013 7:15 pm
Inoroth wrote:Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
The Pope isn't even playing. And you're already annexing them.
1.) The Pope might not be playing, per se, but he still exists IC, and no Christian Nation in it's sane mind would dare oppose him in the 1200's.
2.) I haven't annexed anyone yet, and so I'm buying political church favor before I do anything else.
3.) I am also getting a chance to show the other HRE states what a powerful, leaderful state I am, making my annexing them an easier pill to swallow, and a more difficult one to avoid -- it's all psychology, and if they think they'll be safer under my leadership, they're less likely to revolt or cause trouble and more likely to integrate.
4.) I also have an OOC character reason to get involved -- I hate being bored.

by The imperial canadian dutchy » Wed May 29, 2013 7:17 pm
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Inoroth wrote:
1.) The Pope might not be playing, per se, but he still exists IC, and no Christian Nation in it's sane mind would dare oppose him in the 1200's.
2.) I haven't annexed anyone yet, and so I'm buying political church favor before I do anything else.
3.) I am also getting a chance to show the other HRE states what a powerful, leaderful state I am, making my annexing them an easier pill to swallow, and a more difficult one to avoid -- it's all psychology, and if they think they'll be safer under my leadership, they're less likely to revolt or cause trouble and more likely to integrate.
4.) I also have an OOC character reason to get involved -- I hate being bored.
In real life during that time, most kingdoms just ignored the Pope really.


by The imperial canadian dutchy » Wed May 29, 2013 7:20 pm
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