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Arbarlorn
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Postby Arbarlorn » Sat May 04, 2013 6:01 pm

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Which works for me perfectly as long as you pay for their housing since they are going to be treated as expatriate British civilians.

Of course. And maybe we could exploit the rest of China?


Overtime. We need to see how this little experiment works. So, here is the whole deal.

1) 5% of the total populations of Liaoning and Jilin will be considered expatriate British civilians. I think this could be better handled if we found a city in Jilin or Liaoning to be ceded over to the British Empire as British territory to act as home for these new British civilians.
2) 25% percent of all mineral rights will be ceded over to the British Empire.
3) In order to keep Russia pacified, Liaoning and Jilin will become Imperial Japanese territory instead of Heilongjiang which I propose becomes Russian territory. Leaving Heilongjiang free from Russian, Japanese, or British control makes me wary.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 04, 2013 6:05 pm

Arbarlorn wrote:
Valentir wrote:Of course. And maybe we could exploit the rest of China?


Overtime. We need to see how this little experiment works. So, here is the whole deal.

1) 5% of the total populations of Liaoning and Jilin will be considered expatriate British civilians. I think this could be better handled if we found a city in Jilin or Liaoning to be ceded over to the British Empire as British territory to act as home for these new British civilians.
2) 25% percent of all mineral rights will be ceded over to the British Empire.
3) In order to keep Russia pacified, Liaoning and Jilin will become Imperial Japanese territory instead of Heilongjiang which I propose becomes Russian territory. Leaving Heilongjiang free from Russian, Japanese, or British control makes me wary.


The Tsar could likely work with that, though I'll have do a bit of historical analysis before I officially agree.
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Postby Arbarlorn » Sat May 04, 2013 6:09 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
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Overtime. We need to see how this little experiment works. So, here is the whole deal.

1) 5% of the total populations of Liaoning and Jilin will be considered expatriate British civilians. I think this could be better handled if we found a city in Jilin or Liaoning to be ceded over to the British Empire as British territory to act as home for these new British civilians.
2) 25% percent of all mineral rights will be ceded over to the British Empire.
3) In order to keep Russia pacified, Liaoning and Jilin will become Imperial Japanese territory instead of Heilongjiang which I propose becomes Russian territory. Leaving Heilongjiang free from Russian, Japanese, or British control makes me wary.


The Tsar could likely work with that, though I'll have do a bit of historical analysis before I officially agree.


Heilongjiang, which is the most Northern province of China and North of Jilin, contains the city of Harbin and has the highest Russian population of all of China's provinces. Here is the map I'm basing all of this stuff on.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 04, 2013 6:18 pm

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The Tsar could likely work with that, though I'll have do a bit of historical analysis before I officially agree.


Heilongjiang, which is the most Northern province of China and North of Jilin, contains the city of Harbin and has the highest Russian population of all of China's provinces. Here is the map I'm basing all of this stuff on.


After a map reference and a wiki-walk, the Tsar would be amenable to that agreement. We shall not contest the Japanese annexation of Liaoning and Jilin, and shall provide men and favorable trade conditions in order to expedite the conquest of said provinces, in exchange for which Japan shall recognize the forthcoming Russian annexation of Heilongjiang and hand over control of South Sikhalin to the Tsar.
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Postby Arbarlorn » Sat May 04, 2013 6:21 pm

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Heilongjiang, which is the most Northern province of China and North of Jilin, contains the city of Harbin and has the highest Russian population of all of China's provinces. Here is the map I'm basing all of this stuff on.


After a map reference and a wiki-walk, the Tsar would be amenable to that agreement. We shall not contest the Japanese annexation of Liaoning and Jilin, and shall provide men and favorable trade conditions in order to expedite the conquest of said provinces, in exchange for which Japan shall recognize the forthcoming Russian annexation of Heilongjiang and hand over control of South Sikhalin to the Tsar.


Japan will recognize Russian annexation of Heilongjiang and will cede over South Sikhalin over to the Russian Empire peacefully. I also propose an alliance and free trade between the Japanese and Russian Empires as well as regulated borders to allow smoother transition of civilians and goods while movement of troops would be requested before taking said action to preserve the sovereignty of both nations.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 04, 2013 6:23 pm

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After a map reference and a wiki-walk, the Tsar would be amenable to that agreement. We shall not contest the Japanese annexation of Liaoning and Jilin, and shall provide men and favorable trade conditions in order to expedite the conquest of said provinces, in exchange for which Japan shall recognize the forthcoming Russian annexation of Heilongjiang and hand over control of South Sikhalin to the Tsar.


Japan will recognize Russian annexation of Heilongjiang and will cede over South Sikhalin over to the Russian Empire peacefully. I also propose an alliance and free trade between the Japanese and Russian Empires as well as regulated borders to allow smoother transition of civilians and goods while movement of troops would be requested before taking said action to preserve the sovereignty of both nations.


Hmm, a mutual protection pact and the reduction of import and export tariffs I could work. The caveat about the request for action would also be par for the course.
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sat May 04, 2013 6:27 pm

Now that I am back for more than 5 minutes, I would like one concession from Italy. The cessation of Eritera back to Ethiopia.
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Postby Arbarlorn » Sat May 04, 2013 6:27 pm

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Japan will recognize Russian annexation of Heilongjiang and will cede over South Sikhalin over to the Russian Empire peacefully. I also propose an alliance and free trade between the Japanese and Russian Empires as well as regulated borders to allow smoother transition of civilians and goods while movement of troops would be requested before taking said action to preserve the sovereignty of both nations.


Hmm, a mutual protection pact and the reduction of import and export tariffs I could work. The caveat about the request for action would also be par for the course.


Then I am glad that we are agreed. How many men will provide for the annexation of Jilin and Liaoning?
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Postby Elerian » Sat May 04, 2013 6:31 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Now that I am back for more than 5 minutes, I would like one concession from Italy. The cessation of Eritera back to Ethiopia.

Nice try no
Well wait for what in return?
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sat May 04, 2013 6:32 pm

Elerian wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Now that I am back for more than 5 minutes, I would like one concession from Italy. The cessation of Eritera back to Ethiopia.

Nice try no

You invaded me twice from the same place that was ceded to you to stp you from invading me. Are you surprised I want it back?

EDIT: As a condition to stop the war. You were attacking a French Protectorate. I could have continued the War and called upon the might of France upon you.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 04, 2013 6:38 pm

Arbarlorn wrote:
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Hmm, a mutual protection pact and the reduction of import and export tariffs I could work. The caveat about the request for action would also be par for the course.


Then I am glad that we are agreed. How many men will provide for the annexation of Jilin and Liaoning?


That depends on how many you need; I'd say about twenty thousand soldiers with four thousand cavalry and artillery support based on my forces in the region, but I can upgrade to as many as a hundred thousand infantrymen easily.
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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 6:39 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Elerian wrote:Nice try no

You invaded me twice from the same place that was ceded to you to stp you from invading me. Are you surprised I want it back?

EDIT: As a condition to stop the war. You were attacking a French Protectorate. I could have continued the War and called upon the might of France upon you.

Another Italian player attacked you. This new player shouldn't suffer any consequences as he did not attack you. And Great Britain would back up the Italians anyway.

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Postby Arbarlorn » Sat May 04, 2013 6:40 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Arbarlorn wrote:
Then I am glad that we are agreed. How many men will provide for the annexation of Jilin and Liaoning?


That depends on how many you need; I'd say about twenty thousand soldiers with four thousand cavalry and artillery support based on my forces in the region, but I can upgrade to as many as a hundred thousand infantrymen easily.


Well first, I have to gather intel. Most of the infantry push will come from Korea, naturally, but I plan on keeping China busy with as many amphibious landings as I can pull off, that way China is scrambling to make a proper defense and then I bring the hammer down on Liaoning and Jilin.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sat May 04, 2013 6:40 pm

Valentir wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:You invaded me twice from the same place that was ceded to you to stp you from invading me. Are you surprised I want it back?

EDIT: As a condition to stop the war. You were attacking a French Protectorate. I could have continued the War and called upon the might of France upon you.

Another Italian player attacked you. This new player shouldn't suffer any consequences as he did not attack you. And Great Britain would back up the Italians anyway.

One of the most universal rules of RPing is if you pick up a nation half way through an RP, you deal with the past player's actions.
I'm really tired

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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 6:41 pm

Arbarlorn wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
That depends on how many you need; I'd say about twenty thousand soldiers with four thousand cavalry and artillery support based on my forces in the region, but I can upgrade to as many as a hundred thousand infantrymen easily.


Well first, I have to gather intel. Most of the infantry push will come from Korea, naturally, but I plan on keeping China busy with as many amphibious landings as I can pull off, that way China is scrambling to make a proper defense and then I bring the hammer down on Liaoning and Jilin.

I will send 20,000 soldiers and 30 artillery pieces as well as 30 ships to help take Manchuria and to guard my assets.

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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 6:41 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Valentir wrote:Another Italian player attacked you. This new player shouldn't suffer any consequences as he did not attack you. And Great Britain would back up the Italians anyway.

One of the most universal rules of RPing is if you pick up a nation half way through an RP, you deal with the past player's actions.

If that is the case then The British Empire backs up Italy.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sat May 04, 2013 6:42 pm

Valentir wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:One of the most universal rules of RPing is if you pick up a nation half way through an RP, you deal with the past player's actions.

If that is the case then The British Empire backs up Italy.

Really, right after invading him? You are a flimsy fellow.
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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 6:45 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Valentir wrote:If that is the case then The British Empire backs up Italy.

Really, right after invading him? You are a flimsy fellow.

Yeah. I am. If you have a problem with it then that is your thing to deal with. And I owe him for it. And I'm not the nicest or most noble tool in the shed. If you haven't noticed. But I'm an Imperialist, and this is one of the ways I be an Imperialist, by being deceitful. And I remember you called me that in 1200 RP. So I know the stances of everybody now.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sat May 04, 2013 6:46 pm

Valentir wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Really, right after invading him? You are a flimsy fellow.

Yeah. I am. If you have a problem with it then that is your thing to deal with. And I owe him for it. And I'm not the nicest or most noble tool in the shed. If you haven't noticed. But I'm an Imperialist, and this is one of the ways I be an Imperialist, by being deceitful. And I remember you called me that in 1200 RP. So I know the stances of everybody now.

I don't mind it much, except your constant retconning.
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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 6:48 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Valentir wrote:Yeah. I am. If you have a problem with it then that is your thing to deal with. And I owe him for it. And I'm not the nicest or most noble tool in the shed. If you haven't noticed. But I'm an Imperialist, and this is one of the ways I be an Imperialist, by being deceitful. And I remember you called me that in 1200 RP. So I know the stances of everybody now.

I don't mind it much, except your constant retconning.

How am I retconning? Please explain.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sat May 04, 2013 6:50 pm

Valentir wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I don't mind it much, except your constant retconning.

How am I retconning? Please explain.

You invade Italian Somalia. Ypu remove it.
You make a rage attack post, you remove it.
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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 6:50 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Valentir wrote:How am I retconning? Please explain.

You invade Italian Somalia. Ypu remove it.
You make a rage attack post, you remove it.

Okay.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 04, 2013 7:02 pm

Arbarlorn wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
That depends on how many you need; I'd say about twenty thousand soldiers with four thousand cavalry and artillery support based on my forces in the region, but I can upgrade to as many as a hundred thousand infantrymen easily.


Well first, I have to gather intel. Most of the infantry push will come from Korea, naturally, but I plan on keeping China busy with as many amphibious landings as I can pull off, that way China is scrambling to make a proper defense and then I bring the hammer down on Liaoning and Jilin.


Fair enough, Japanese pirates are traditional for Eastern China :P
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Postby Valentir » Sat May 04, 2013 7:06 pm

Why do I have a bad feeling Ethiopia is going to attack me or someone around me?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 04, 2013 7:20 pm

Valentir wrote:Why do I have a bad feeling Ethiopia is going to attack me or someone around me?


Ethiopia should go colonize the Sahara, since Persia is lulzing around in Antartica.
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