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Tabret
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Postby Tabret » Fri May 17, 2013 7:44 pm

Bormeatri wrote:
Tabret wrote:

There's no limit to land claims, as long as there is a good reason for the unification of these lands (IN this case the islamic empire)

Population remains at 350 million, iran's pop now is 80 and pakistan's is around 200.

Nukes are low yield, 4kt. Not for strategic purposes and large numbers wont do much harm

There's a guy who signed up and had 2.5 million men in his army and 2.5 in reserves


Your denied then.

Change your land claims and population to what I said above, you may add Pakistan in land claims. No african claims and no India.
I will let you have 2.5 million active and 2.5 million reverse max, and your number of nukes can be 400 low yield nukes.


Doesnt matter, Ill conquer back that land later on.

Population at 150 million? I'm afraid not. Modern stats for pakistan and iran's population are 180 million and 80 million respectively. Therefore in 2022, coupled with even a minimal increase in population levels in other minor nations I claimed, the number of people should be around 350 million. (390, I forgot Iraq)
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Postby Tabret » Fri May 17, 2013 7:58 pm

Tabret wrote:Alright, first, concerning the claim by the US player that no fighter could combat some of the F class fighters, then please take a look at


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA


And now, onto my application for the Islamic Empire.

Nation you will play: Islamic Empire (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Pakistan)
Leader: Alex David
Population: 390, 000, 000
Economic Policy: Mixed economic system, promotion of industrialization and services sector, use of plentiful natural resources to promote economic growth
Domestic Policy: Promotion of intellectualism and education, forced education until post-University, intensive infrastructural development and massive defense projects, good research initiatives.
Foreign Policy: Stand with none. Destroy all those who try to attack us.
Miltary Size: 2.5 million and 2.5 million kin reserve.
Nuclear Capable: Yes, some 400 nukes, low yield to promote strategic bombing plans.

Recent History:

2013: Following the fall of numerous regimes in North Africa, a dictator called Abdul-Saleem al Ghazzani comes to power in Libya, restores Libya's military and puts the massive weapon arsenal of Libya into use.

2014: Anarchy ensues in various North african nations, making conquest much easier for Ghazzani's forces. All of North Africa is seized by Ghazzani, and the proclamation of an African Empire follows.

2016: Thousands protest against Ghazzani, repression leads to millions more taking to the streets.

2017: Ghazzani expands into the Middle East with millions of men, utterly annihilating Saudi forces in Jeddah and Dammam.

2018: Incursions into Iran are thwarted by a superior Iranian military force. Iran sees an opportunity to take control of the Middle East, and starts an invasion against Ghazzani's forces.

2019: Rogue Iranian commander, Alex David, deploys tactical nukes at his disposal, destroying concentrations of Iranian and African forces.

2019: Alex David marches unnoposed to Tripoli and seizes control of the Empire. A massive conscript force is raised, and they charge through to Iran. Iran puts up a defense, but the conscripts simply overnumber the Iranian military. Iran falls, and Pakistan falls soon after. Iraq surrenders after threats of invasion *cough France cough*, following an attack on it's only naval base which was believed to be a precursor for an attack.

2020: A 60 million slave force is brought together and were ordered to work on infrastructural development programs and the industrialization of the new empire. The Islamic Empire is hence proclaimed. Mecca is the capital, Medina is second to Mecca in terms of political influence.

2020: Due to the divide between the territories of the empire, rogue pro-Ghazzani forces reclaim several nations in N.A, thus ending Islamic rule.

2021: With a massive army and a massive slave workforce, along with numerous natural resources and an extensive infrastructure and industry, the Islamic Empire has a massive potential. Will it align with a superpower, or will it act on it's own?

Plans:Ensure economic growth and stability, stay out of international conflicts and remain neutral to superpowers.



Updated.
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Postby Joshulia » Fri May 17, 2013 8:00 pm

*Raises hand* Might I please make an APP for a rebel group in the Soviet Union, sir?
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 8:03 pm

Joshulia wrote:*Raises hand* Might I please make an APP for a rebel group in the Soviet Union, sir?


Hold on a sec.

You said you have tests, in a carnival this week, and more activities, and you leave the Gangs RP. Now you want to make an app here?

Approved. :p

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Seriously?

Probably...........you can. :p
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby Joshulia » Fri May 17, 2013 8:06 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Joshulia wrote:*Raises hand* Might I please make an APP for a rebel group in the Soviet Union, sir?


Hold on a sec.

You said you have tests, in a carnival this week, and more activities, and you leave the Gangs RP. Now you want to make an app here?

Approved. :p

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Seriously?

Probably...........you can. :p

I do, I just was goining to pick up an RP that I only had to post on once every hour or so, that's what I'll be able to do this week. And in the Gangs one I had to post every five minutes or it messed up the story.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 9:00 pm

Joshulia wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Hold on a sec.

You said you have tests, in a carnival this week, and more activities, and you leave the Gangs RP. Now you want to make an app here?

Approved. :p

----------------------------

Seriously?

Probably...........you can. :p

I do, I just was goining to pick up an RP that I only had to post on once every hour or so, that's what I'll be able to do this week. And in the Gangs one I had to post every five minutes or it messed up the story.


Yeah, I didn't know about that. Now that I know it...
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I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Dires
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Postby Dires » Fri May 17, 2013 9:47 pm

finally posted again :D
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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:03 pm

Dires, regarding your proposal to get 3 men aboard the Mars Mission, for 200 billion dollars. China has proposed 200 billion dollars for one man. I would be happy to have a couple of american astronauts aboard, but only 2 not 3.

Me and the ARGB have to decide how many people we will bring on this project before saying yes to anyone, but you have a strong likely-hood of joining the mission. We also have to decide the crew size of the mission, I'm going with a crew of 9-12 people (4 from the ARGB, 4 from the SPR, 2 American*, 1 Chinese*).
(The asterisk (*) means that these crew members still have to be ok-ed by the ARGB and SPR.)

Also the first human to step foot on Mars would be from either the SPR or the ARGB. (Which one of us will have the first man on Mars still has to be determined.)
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:08 pm

Bormeatri wrote:Dires, regarding your proposal to get 3 men aboard the Mars Mission, for 200 billion dollars. China has proposed 200 billion dollars for one man. I would be happy to have a couple of american astronauts aboard, but only 2 not 3.

Me and the ARGB have to decide how many people we will bring on this project before saying yes to anyone, but you have a strong likely-hood of joining the mission. We also have to decide the crew size of the mission, I'm going with a crew of 9-12 people (4 from the ARGB, 4 from the SPR, 2 American*, 1 Chinese*).
(The asterisk (*) means that these crew members still have to be ok-ed by the ARGB and SPR.)

Also the first human to step foot on Mars would be from either the SPR or the ARGB. (Which one of us will have the first man on Mars still has to be determined.)


Japan just sent the manned mission to Moon.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:12 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Japan just sent the manned mission to Moon.


Yeah I saw that, i seems like a bunch of the people who have accepted applications aren't even posting on the IC.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:13 pm

Bormeatri wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Japan just sent the manned mission to Moon.


Yeah I saw that, i seems like a bunch of the people who have accepted applications aren't even posting on the IC.


They had posted in the past. :p

We should run a routine check on players and kick all of the inactive players.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:16 pm

That would require Yanalia, since I can't edit the threads. If you were in my position with the Mars program would you accept America or China, or both. I feel like I can only accept one country though because of the tension between the two.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:18 pm

Bormeatri wrote:That would require Yanalia, since I can't edit the threads. If you were in my position with the Mars program would you accept America or China, or both. I feel like I can only accept one country though because of the tension between the two.


Don't accept both of them. Accept one of them will probably result in a long-term conflict. I suggest you choose a nation that neutral but as strong as them.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:20 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Bormeatri wrote:That would require Yanalia, since I can't edit the threads. If you were in my position with the Mars program would you accept America or China, or both. I feel like I can only accept one country though because of the tension between the two.


Don't accept both of them. Accept one of them will probably result in a long-term conflict. I suggest you choose a nation that neutral but as strong as them.


with that advice i'm guessing you want in on the program?

Me and the ARGB have some things to discuss.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:22 pm

Bormeatri wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Don't accept both of them. Accept one of them will probably result in a long-term conflict. I suggest you choose a nation that neutral but as strong as them.


with that advice i'm guessing you want in on the program?

Me and the ARGB have some things to discuss.


No. I need more developments first to be able to go to Mars.

Choose USSR. Neutral and as strong as USA and China.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby Dires » Fri May 17, 2013 10:26 pm

Bormeatri wrote:Dires, regarding your proposal to get 3 men aboard the Mars Mission, for 200 billion dollars. China has proposed 200 billion dollars for one man. I would be happy to have a couple of american astronauts aboard, but only 2 not 3.

Me and the ARGB have to decide how many people we will bring on this project before saying yes to anyone, but you have a strong likely-hood of joining the mission. We also have to decide the crew size of the mission, I'm going with a crew of 9-12 people (4 from the ARGB, 4 from the SPR, 2 American*, 1 Chinese*).
(The asterisk (*) means that these crew members still have to be ok-ed by the ARGB and SPR.)

Also the first human to step foot on Mars would be from either the SPR or the ARGB. (Which one of us will have the first man on Mars still has to be determined.)


Mhm, make it 10, 3 American please, simply because NASA has tons of valuable information on Mars we've gathered. Don't forget, we've been sending rovers to Mars for decades but never cared enough actually send people. I also understand about you guys stepping foot on Mars first though. In addition, ARGB is a close ally of America so the 3:1 odds against Chinese should be fine.
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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:30 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Bormeatri wrote:
with that advice i'm guessing you want in on the program?

Me and the ARGB have some things to discuss.


No. I need more developments first to be able to go to Mars.

Choose USSR. Neutral and as strong as USA and China.


I feel like that would harm relations with both china and the usa, both of them hate the ussr. Me and the ARGB will probably end up going with america because of his relations with the USA. I think i figured out who will first step foot on Mars.

The first human to step foot on Mars will be both British and South Republican. The person (he/she) will have dual-citizenship with both countries. The person will have been born aboard a ship in the middle of the Indian ocean. The ship will have been traveling from Perth to London. The person's mother will be from the ARGB and the person's father will be from the SPR.

This way neither me or the ARGB will get to have the first person on Mars, we will both have the first person on Mars at the same time.

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Postby Dires » Fri May 17, 2013 10:31 pm

Also, you're so much more likelier to choose Americans over Soviets or Chinese because America, like I said before, has strong ties to ARGB, and we have the space-travel experience. The Chinese don't have much in comparison and you should be afraid of the Soviets, who's a a natural enemy of our capitalist nations.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:33 pm

Dires wrote:Also, you're so much more likelier to choose Americans over Soviets or Chinese because America, like I said before, has strong ties to ARGB, and we have the space-travel experience. The Chinese don't have much in comparison and you should be afraid of the Soviets, who's a a natural enemy of our capitalist nations.


ARGB?

Japan had turned into a nationalistic nation controlled by ultra-nationalist party with ultra-nationalist prime minister and militaristic emperor.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
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I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby Dires » Fri May 17, 2013 10:34 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Dires wrote:Also, you're so much more likelier to choose Americans over Soviets or Chinese because America, like I said before, has strong ties to ARGB, and we have the space-travel experience. The Chinese don't have much in comparison and you should be afraid of the Soviets, who's a a natural enemy of our capitalist nations.


ARGB?

Japan had turned into a nationalistic nation controlled by ultra-nationalist party with ultra-nationalist prime minister and militaristic emperor.


Armed Republic of Great Britain

Ohhhh I still need to address Japan lol, America is super-unhappy about a resurgent Imperial Japan.
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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:36 pm

Dires wrote:
Bormeatri wrote:Dires, regarding your proposal to get 3 men aboard the Mars Mission, for 200 billion dollars. China has proposed 200 billion dollars for one man. I would be happy to have a couple of american astronauts aboard, but only 2 not 3.

Me and the ARGB have to decide how many people we will bring on this project before saying yes to anyone, but you have a strong likely-hood of joining the mission. We also have to decide the crew size of the mission, I'm going with a crew of 9-12 people (4 from the ARGB, 4 from the SPR, 2 American*, 1 Chinese*).
(The asterisk (*) means that these crew members still have to be ok-ed by the ARGB and SPR.)

Also the first human to step foot on Mars would be from either the SPR or the ARGB. (Which one of us will have the first man on Mars still has to be determined.)


Mhm, make it 10, 3 American please, simply because NASA has tons of valuable information on Mars we've gathered. Don't forget, we've been sending rovers to Mars for decades but never cared enough actually send people. I also understand about you guys stepping foot on Mars first though. In addition, ARGB is a close ally of America so the 3:1 odds against Chinese should be fine.


How about 3:3:3, 3 from the ARGB, 3 from the SPR, and 3 from the USA. If we do this the SPR would like to sign deals with the USA(to match the deals that we have with the ARGB), which include trade agreements, non-aggression pacts maybe a defense pact. Plus you would have to help supply things for the construction of the heavy rail launcher and scram-jet, you could provide the designs for the scram-jet (That would really sped up the process of the Mars Program).
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:37 pm

Dires wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
ARGB?

Japan had turned into a nationalistic nation controlled by ultra-nationalist party with ultra-nationalist prime minister and militaristic emperor.


Armed Republic of Great Britain

Ohhhh I still need to address Japan lol, America is super-unhappy about a resurgent Imperial Japan.


We had kicked out the Americans from Japan. And we planning to take-over a nation.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri May 17, 2013 10:39 pm

Woah lots of new ooc posts
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 10:40 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Woah lots of new ooc posts


Italian Restorationists Revolution: The imperial canadian duchy

A resistance?
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

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Postby Bormeatri » Fri May 17, 2013 10:41 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Woah lots of new ooc posts

yeah this thread has went up like a wildfire

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