2022: The New Cold War[OOC/Sign-ups/OPEN]

[Northern Anvils]

Don't know, the EDF called a meeting about it, so I'd say some Europeans, Americans, Russians, and may be one or two Chinese.

I've also been thinking if we should set up some kind of standard for measuring eachother's economic strength. When wars are fought between countries, the strength of both countries economies will come into play. I've got a few ideas using some nationstates statistics calculator. Plus it also puts a limit on what your nation is capable of doing in a given period of time. I think it would be a good idea as it would allow our nations to guage eachother more effectively. Let me know what you all think, I should be able to cook something up for it.

Yep. I am agree with this. Japan in here, I say is stronger in economy compared with Korea, but at the same level as the South Pacific and ASEAN.

Well, the main problem is that my country on Absolution NS tracker has a GDP of some 117 trillion dollars, and a not as populous newer player will have a smaller economy because of his population. That's the main issue. Yanalia is only 8.67 trillion for example.

I think GDP per capita multiplied by rp population should be good. That brings mine down to 3.4 trillion, which is a much more reasonable number. I'll try to come up with a list if you all approve.

[Altito Asmoro]

Yep. I am agree with this. Japan in here, I say is stronger in economy compared with Korea, but at the same level as the South Pacific and ASEAN.

Well, the main problem is that my country on Absolution NS tracker has a GDP of some 117 trillion dollars, and a not as populous newer player will have a smaller economy because of his population. That's the main issue. Yanalia is only 8.67 trillion for example.

I think GDP per capita multiplied by rp population should be good. That brings mine down to 3.4 trillion, which is a much more reasonable number. I'll try to come up with a list if you all approve.

Mine is A$ 4,146,957,643,328.64

[Northern Anvils]

I'll have to change my rp population to 65 million, for whatever reason I thought the U.K. was much smaller than it actually was, it's current population is something like 63 million. Anyways, I'll just use everybody's GDP per capita on absolution ns tracker and multiply that by the total rp population. We'll need everyone's consent of course before we use it to actually influence the game.

I'm not gonna lie though, some of you won't be as powerful as you thought you were, but it's all for the sake of realism. We can't all be economic juggernauts.

[The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes]

I'll have to change my rp population to 65 million, for whatever reason I thought the U.K. was much smaller than it actually was, it's current population is something like 63 million. Anyways, I'll just use everybody's GDP per capita on absolution ns tracker and multiply that by the total rp population. We'll need everyone's consent of course before we use it to actually influence the game.

I don't think tying an AWRP based on actual nations to NS Nations is a good idea. I don't have any alternatives, of course, other than suggesting people actually at least Wiki the capabilities of what they're playing as. I'm a bit nervous about supercarriers popping out everywhere.

[Altito Asmoro]

I'll have to change my rp population to 65 million, for whatever reason I thought the U.K. was much smaller than it actually was, it's current population is something like 63 million. Anyways, I'll just use everybody's GDP per capita on absolution ns tracker and multiply that by the total rp population. We'll need everyone's consent of course before we use it to actually influence the game.

I don't think tying an AWRP based on actual nations to NS Nations is a good idea. I don't have any alternatives, of course, other than suggesting people actually at least Wiki the capabilities of what they're playing as. I'm a bit nervous about supercarriers popping out everywhere.

I only have 1. Another 2 will be on the way.

[Epraria]

I feel like i chose the wrong area to rp.

[Altito Asmoro]

I feel like i chose the wrong area to rp.

China and Japan between you. I know the feeling.

Japan, meanwhile, is between China and USSR.

[Northern Anvils]

I'll have to change my rp population to 65 million, for whatever reason I thought the U.K. was much smaller than it actually was, it's current population is something like 63 million. Anyways, I'll just use everybody's GDP per capita on absolution ns tracker and multiply that by the total rp population. We'll need everyone's consent of course before we use it to actually influence the game.

I don't think tying an AWRP based on actual nations to NS Nations is a good idea. I don't have any alternatives, of course, other than suggesting people actually at least Wiki the capabilities of what they're playing as. I'm a bit nervous about supercarriers popping out everywhere.

That maybe, but I don't really see any other way to do it otherwise we will have supercarriers everywhere, and everyone will have a tip top space program. With some people, I might use the economic strength of the country they are playing as, because some of the economic stuff I pulled up was pretty sad.

[Epraria]

I feel like i chose the wrong area to rp.

China and Japan between you. I know the feeling.

Japan, meanwhile, is between China and USSR.

And on top of that i am also bordering the ussr so my best bet is to stay neutral. It sucks to be betwen two super powers who are hostile.

[Altito Asmoro]

China and Japan between you. I know the feeling.

Japan, meanwhile, is between China and USSR.

And on top of that i am also bordering the ussr so my best bet is to stay neutral. It sucks to be betwen two super powers who are hostile.

I'm not superpower.

[Epraria]

And on top of that i am also bordering the ussr so my best bet is to stay neutral. It sucks to be betwen two super powers who are hostile.

I'm not superpower.

I talked about your position.

[The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes]

China and Japan between you. I know the feeling.

Japan, meanwhile, is between China and USSR.

And on top of that i am also bordering the ussr so my best bet is to stay neutral. It sucks to be betwen two super powers who are hostile.

Didn't something similar happen to the real Korea?

[Northern Anvils]

All right, I think this is what I'll do.

I will take each countries GDP per capita in dollars, multiply it by rp population, then compare it to the actual real GDP of the country they are playing now, and extrapolate that out from now till 2022. Whichever one is higher should serve as your nations GDP, or the strength of your economy. For those of you that consist of multiple countries, like Yanalia, the Caspian Federation, and the South Pacific Republic, it might take a while, but I believe it will work. It will give those of you with not so powerful nationstates economies to actually play with the power conferred by the economy of the nation you are playing as or more. I think it's fair, just need everyone's approval.

[Altito Asmoro]

I'm not superpower.

I talked about your position.

I'm not.

And on top of that i am also bordering the ussr so my best bet is to stay neutral. It sucks to be betwen two super powers who are hostile.

Didn't something similar happen to the real Korea?

They have USA protecting them.

[The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes]

All right, I think this is what I'll do.

I will take each countries GDP per capita in dollars, multiply it by rp population, then compare it to the actual real GDP of the country they are playing now, and extrapolate that out from now till 2022. Whichever one is higher should serve as your nations GDP, or the strength of your economy. For those of you that consist of multiple countries, like Yanalia, the Caspian Federation, and the South Pacific Republic, it might take a while, but I believe it will work. It will give those of you with not so powerful nationstates economies to actually play with the power conferred by the economy of the nation you are playing as or more. I think it's fair, just need everyone's approval.

Not sure how extrapolation can be done, since everyone grows differently. If you're absolutely nice and industrious enough you could put them up for general reference, but I really don't think 2 different RP stats should be mixed. It's much easier for each player to just get a good feel of their nations and how they would go in this timeline.

Didn't something similar happen to the real Korea?

They have USA protecting them.

Also, lots of medium-sized neutral powers suspicious of China in this one.

[Epraria]

Wai what happened with india.

[Northern Anvils]

All right, I think this is what I'll do.

I will take each countries GDP per capita in dollars, multiply it by rp population, then compare it to the actual real GDP of the country they are playing now, and extrapolate that out from now till 2022. Whichever one is higher should serve as your nations GDP, or the strength of your economy. For those of you that consist of multiple countries, like Yanalia, the Caspian Federation, and the South Pacific Republic, it might take a while, but I believe it will work. It will give those of you with not so powerful nationstates economies to actually play with the power conferred by the economy of the nation you are playing as or more. I think it's fair, just need everyone's approval.

Not sure how extrapolation can be done, since everyone grows differently. If you're absolutely nice and industrious enough you could put them up for general reference, but I really don't think 2 different RP stats should be mixed. It's much easier for each player to just get a good feel of their nations and how they would go in this timeline.

It doesn't need to be an exact thing, it'll be fine. We just need to give every one a sense of how much power they actually have so we don't have everybody sailing the 7 seas with their flotillas of supercarriers and massive arsenals of nuclear weapons. Also, it might put a stop to all of this wonton invading of every other NPC country. It might turn out to be to expensive.

[Northern Anvils]

Either way, I'll try and post everybody's info up later today to see if you like what you see.

[Epraria]

What is the situaction in india?

[Moriala]

I'm finally accepted! Look out, USSR!

[Reddogkeno101]

Um hi, I was reading through this and I was going to play as Australia but saw it was taken. However, I would like to point out some flaws in it's description. First, Australia and New Zealand would NEVER outlaw homosexuality; obviously this guy is a homophobe. Second, Australia would NEVER be in union with Indonesia, I mean realistically. ((btw I'm Australian)). Third, the guy who said Australia was mostly desert, it's not; you've been looking at too many globes with pretty colours. It's actually mostly normal farm stuff. And fourth, to the guy who said Australian land was shit, it's not and that is quite mean just saying.
Thanks, Reddogkeno101

P.S I have to say, it's really funny how New Zealand outlawed homosexuality when they are one of the first in the world to recognise gay marriage.

Yes, compared to all the other inhabited continents in the world, Australia has the shittiest land for farming. Low in nutrients and no real competitive natural crops to speak off.

In regards to homosexuality, welcome to alt. history, a place where the Democratic Party of the United States of America has been outlawed, the U.S.S.R. exists again, there is no British monarchy, Brazil is an empire, and Israel has formed a nation with the rest of its immediate neighbors.

First, I can almost GUARENTEE you live in America; where Education is well, to say it nicely, seriously below average when compared with all other countries. Second, That is just stupid though!

[Altito Asmoro]

Yes, compared to all the other inhabited continents in the world, Australia has the shittiest land for farming. Low in nutrients and no real competitive natural crops to speak off.

In regards to homosexuality, welcome to alt. history, a place where the Democratic Party of the United States of America has been outlawed, the U.S.S.R. exists again, there is no British monarchy, Brazil is an empire, and Israel has formed a nation with the rest of its immediate neighbors.

First, I can almost GUARENTEE you live in America; where Education is well, to say it nicely, seriously below average when compared with all other countries. Second, That is just stupid though!

This is Alt. History RP. Deal with it or leave

[Dires]

Yes, compared to all the other inhabited continents in the world, Australia has the shittiest land for farming. Low in nutrients and no real competitive natural crops to speak off.

In regards to homosexuality, welcome to alt. history, a place where the Democratic Party of the United States of America has been outlawed, the U.S.S.R. exists again, there is no British monarchy, Brazil is an empire, and Israel has formed a nation with the rest of its immediate neighbors.

First, I can almost GUARENTEE you live in America; where Education is well, to say it nicely, seriously below average when compared with all other countries. Second, That is just stupid though!

. Yes? I am a product of the American public education system. I agree that it can be lacking. Fortunately, I attended a relatively well ranked high school. Despite a weak K-12 program, the United States is still the destination for higher education.

[Altito Asmoro]

First, I can almost GUARENTEE you live in America; where Education is well, to say it nicely, seriously below average when compared with all other countries. Second, That is just stupid though!

. Yes? I am a product of the American public education system. I agree that it can be lacking. Fortunately, I attended a relatively well ranked high school. Despite a weak K-12 program, the United States is still the destination for higher education.

Hah. I want to go to Australia or UK, rather than USA.

[Epraria]

I ask again how is the situaction in india.