2022: The New Cold War[OOC/Sign-ups/OPEN]

[Honeydew inc]

Any other questions?

Yes what is the name of the capital in every imperial state.

Well, it's basically the capital of the former independent state and RL Brazillian states

[Epraria]

Yes what is the name of the capital in every imperial state.

Well, it's basically the capital of the former independent state and RL Brazillian states

Oh so what do you think of my fortification plan.

[Honeydew inc]

Well, it's basically the capital of the former independent state and RL Brazillian states

Oh so what do you think of my fortification plan.

Meh, it is the best for you. You are a Capitalist Nation bordered by the USSR, so you better fortify

EDIT: Oops, it is bordered by China but tomato, tomato

[Epraria]

Oh so what do you think of my fortification plan.

Meh, it is the best for you. You are a Capitalist Nation bordered by the USSR, so you better fortify

Even if the border with the USSR is rather small.

[Dires]

Well, it's basically the capital of the former independent state and RL Brazillian states

Oh so what do you think of my fortification plan.

Walls and fortresses won't do jack when the Nukes are coming around the mountain when they come

[Epraria]

Oh so what do you think of my fortification plan.

Walls and fortresses won't do jack when the Nukes are coming around the mountain when they come

oh why do the soviets have to use nukes.

[Dires]

Walls and fortresses won't do jack when the Nukes are coming around the mountain when they come

oh why do the soviets have to use nukes.

Or just conventional missiles. either way, walls don't mean much anymore

[Epraria]

oh why do the soviets have to use nukes.

Or just conventional missiles. either way, walls don't mean much anymore

Im not using that much walls there more bunkers and minefields.

[Northern Anvils]

Um hi, I was reading through this and I was going to play as Australia but saw it was taken. However, I would like to point out some flaws in it's description. First, Australia and New Zealand would NEVER outlaw homosexuality; obviously this guy is a homophobe. Second, Australia would NEVER be in union with Indonesia, I mean realistically. ((btw I'm Australian)). Third, the guy who said Australia was mostly desert, it's not; you've been looking at too many globes with pretty colours. It's actually mostly normal farm stuff. And fourth, to the guy who said Australian land was shit, it's not and that is quite mean just saying.
Thanks, Reddogkeno101

P.S I have to say, it's really funny how New Zealand outlawed homosexuality when they are one of the first in the world to recognise gay marriage.

Yes, compared to all the other inhabited continents in the world, Australia has the shittiest land for farming. Low in nutrients and no real competitive natural crops to speak off.

In regards to homosexuality, welcome to alt. history, a place where the Democratic Party of the United States of America has been outlawed, the U.S.S.R. exists again, there is no British monarchy, Brazil is an empire, and Israel has formed a nation with the rest of its immediate neighbors.

The British Monarchy is still around, I think it would be King William and Queen Catherine, the current Duke and Duchess of Cambridge in our time. They are just quiet people currently.

[Yanalia]

AAAAnd I need to read closer. Cut your army, a whole ton. And your population. No nukes. Then, if the USSR has no problem, accepted.

Ok. Axe the army to about 3 million. Absolutely no nukes (unless donated or produced), and population be cut to 50 million. Happy? The USSR has no problems with it, too.

3 million is too much for a 50 mil population. Unless you're talking active and reserve?

[States of Yugoslavia]

Can I play as Yugoslavia = Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Bulgarian, Macedonia and Albania?

[Yanalia]

Can I play as Yugoslavia = Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Bulgarian, Macedonia and Albania?

Someone has already posted an app for those countries, sorry.

[Bormeatri]

Either way, what I said before still stands, we will need gigawatts, not a paltry 710 Megawatts, the solar arrays and wind farm will have to be much bigger, probably on the order of about 3-5 gigawatts, the rails will also have to be at least 30 miles long. We have to get what will probably be several hundred tons of cargo from nothing up to escape velocity of 11.6km/s. Maybe 60 or so miles, to take advantage of the curvature of the Earth. Still it would be much cheaper than rockets, and would pay for itself with the offset costs of 30 conventional rockets to the moon.

Plus, 800 billion is more than a quarter of the SPRs GDP! Almost a third! 350 billion would be a more accurate estimate, even with all of the shipping costs sending processed materials from the ARGB to the SPR.

Let me explain myself.

The Heavy rail launcher is based off of this http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/nasa-engineers-propose-combining-rail-gun-and-scramjet-fire-spacecraft-orbit
The rail would be 2-3 miles long because any longer at it would cost way to much. The spacecraft is attached to a scram-jet, both of these are attached to a cart on the magnetic rail. A massive amount of energy (around 200MW) would get the cart-scarmjet-spacecraft combo going. The combo would accelerate at a constant rate over the two-three mile track to Mach 1.5 in 60 seconds. The force of the acceleration would be under 3Gs. Once the combo reaches mach 1.5 the scram-jet fires and launches off the cart on the rail launcher. The scram jet takes the spacecraft to 200,000 feet where it is now going mach 10. the spacecraft detaches from the scram-jet and fires it's own rockets to get to space.

Complicated, but it works. I guess I could axe the wind power plant to save $10 billion dollars. For the cost of the project a reasonable cost is more like $700 billion with the solar farm. This includes the cost of developing the heavy rail launcher and more efficient solar panels. The project wouldn't be completed in one year so the cost wouldn't be 28% of the GDP, it would take about 2-3 years so it would be 9-14% of the GDP of the SPR over 2-3 years. Plus would the SPR only be paying for this, I thought it was a joint command with you? So it's like you pay $200 billlion I pay $500 billion for the project. If it's that then the cost compared to my GDP goes down to 6-12% of the GDP of my country over 2-3 years.

[Moriala]

Ok. Axe the army to about 3 million. Absolutely no nukes (unless donated or produced), and population be cut to 50 million. Happy? The USSR has no problems with it, too.

3 million is too much for a 50 mil population. Unless you're talking active and reserve?

Than the military is bumped up to 8 million.

[Yanalia]

3 million is too much for a 50 mil population. Unless you're talking active and reserve?

Than the military is bumped up to 8 million.

Europe has a total of about 6-7 million active and reserve. With a much larger population. I think that's unrealistic. Do you have mandatory conscription? If so, you still need to bump down your active personnel but raise your reserves. Conscripted troops obviously wouldn't be as good as professional though.

[Moriala]

Than the military is bumped up to 8 million.

Europe has a total of about 6-7 million active and reserve. With a much larger population. I think that's unrealistic. Do you have mandatory conscription? If so, you still need to bump down your active personnel but raise your reserves. Conscripted troops obviously wouldn't be as good as professional though.

Then my military is bumped down to 5 mil. Happy NOW?

[Yanalia]

Europe has a total of about 6-7 million active and reserve. With a much larger population. I think that's unrealistic. Do you have mandatory conscription? If so, you still need to bump down your active personnel but raise your reserves. Conscripted troops obviously wouldn't be as good as professional though.

Then my military is bumped down to 5 mil. Happy NOW?

Accepted.

[Northern Anvils]

Either way, what I said before still stands, we will need gigawatts, not a paltry 710 Megawatts, the solar arrays and wind farm will have to be much bigger, probably on the order of about 3-5 gigawatts, the rails will also have to be at least 30 miles long. We have to get what will probably be several hundred tons of cargo from nothing up to escape velocity of 11.6km/s. Maybe 60 or so miles, to take advantage of the curvature of the Earth. Still it would be much cheaper than rockets, and would pay for itself with the offset costs of 30 conventional rockets to the moon.

Plus, 800 billion is more than a quarter of the SPRs GDP! Almost a third! 350 billion would be a more accurate estimate, even with all of the shipping costs sending processed materials from the ARGB to the SPR.

Let me explain myself.

The Heavy rail launcher is based off of this http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/nasa-engineers-propose-combining-rail-gun-and-scramjet-fire-spacecraft-orbit
The rail would be 2-3 miles long because any longer at it would cost way to much. The spacecraft is attached to a scram-jet, both of these are attached to a cart on the magnetic rail. A massive amount of energy (around 200MW) would get the cart-scarmjet-spacecraft combo going. The combo would accelerate at a constant rate over the two-three mile track to Mach 1.5 in 60 seconds. The force of the acceleration would be under 3Gs. Once the combo reaches mach 1.5 the scram-jet fires and launches off the cart on the rail launcher. The scram jet takes the spacecraft to 200,000 feet where it is now going mach 10. the spacecraft detaches from the scram-jet and fires it's own rockets to get to space.

Complicated, but it works. I guess I could axe the wind power plant to save $10 billion dollars. For the cost of the project a reasonable cost is more like $700 billion with the solar farm. This includes the cost of developing the heavy rail launcher and more efficient solar panels. The project wouldn't be completed in one year so the cost wouldn't be 28% of the GDP, it would take about 2-3 years so it would be 9-14% of the GDP of the SPR over 2-3 years. Plus would the SPR only be paying for this, I thought it was a joint command with you? So it's like you pay $200 billlion I pay $500 billion for the project. If it's that then the cost compared to my GDP goes down to 6-12% of the GDP of my country over 2-3 years.

Yea, I will still be paying for some of it, I was just using that GDP thing for comparison. I never thought of using a scramjet, I thought the whole thing was going to be a linear motor with a small chemical booster at the beginning. Still, we should just use the solar farm. 700 megawatts should be sufficient I guess with the scramjet craft. That way we don't have to get it to escape velocity so long as the scramjet provides enough force to keep it going.

[Yanalia]

I'm sick, guys. I'll try to be back as soon as possible. Bormeatri, take the wheel.

[Altito Asmoro]

I conveniently and lazily grabbed the Singapore-based ASEAN nation that Dires created (before he switched to playing as the Americans).

Oh, ok. I have nothing against you then. Buddies?

I'm Japan.

[Northern Anvils]

You should know, Port Charlotte, that an actual mission to Mars is still way down the pipes. The USC designed this program to put a manned station on mars, not just a Mars Walk and return. First we have to get to the moon, build a station there, then get to Mars. It's cheaper that way and does not cost as much energy than going straight from Earth too Mars. Plus, I'm not sure of your true motives. My economy and the economy of the SPR are more than capable of paying for it, and I am not too friendly with the EDF.

[Northern Anvils]

I also like how I wasn't invited to the Levant Coalition's peace conference. That says a lot about how they see the ARGB.

[The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes]

Typing out my first post now, and will be including an orbital launch. Who is occupying the ISS currently?

[Northern Anvils]

Typing out my first post now, and will be including an orbital launch. Who is occupying the ISS currently?

Don't know, the EDF called a meeting about it, so I'd say some Europeans, Americans, Russians, and may be one or two Chinese.

I've also been thinking if we should set up some kind of standard for measuring eachother's economic strength. When wars are fought between countries, the strength of both countries economies will come into play. I've got a few ideas using some nationstates statistics calculator. Plus it also puts a limit on what your nation is capable of doing in a given period of time. I think it would be a good idea as it would allow our nations to guage eachother more effectively. Let me know what you all think, I should be able to cook something up for it.

[Altito Asmoro]

Typing out my first post now, and will be including an orbital launch. Who is occupying the ISS currently?

Don't know, the EDF called a meeting about it, so I'd say some Europeans, Americans, Russians, and may be one or two Chinese.

I've also been thinking if we should set up some kind of standard for measuring eachother's economic strength. When wars are fought between countries, the strength of both countries economies will come into play. I've got a few ideas using some nationstates statistics calculator. Plus it also puts a limit on what your nation is capable of doing in a given period of time. I think it would be a good idea as it would allow our nations to guage eachother more effectively. Let me know what you all think, I should be able to cook something up for it.

Yep. I am agree with this. Japan in here, I say is stronger in economy compared with Korea, but at the same level as the South Pacific and ASEAN.