A New Dawn - Industry Rules Supreme (OOC/CLOSED)

[Lewina]

Byzantines come from many different countries. I'm not calling them Greeks for two reasons:
1. They come from different countries.
2. It would be confusing if I called them Greeks and called the rebels Greeks.

Whiptee-fucking-dooo!!! I killed only 45 soldiers! The type of tactic I'm using is called a banzai charge, it is highly effective when used correctly which I'm doing. And George was raised by a royal Dutch family, his father was the king of Greece, he's therefore rich, and his successors are rich. He has enough money to buy that shit.

Read a book about the Empire, then spread your commie bullshit. And there was no fking kingdom of Greece! The term Greek does not even exist for fks shake!

Since when have I been spreading my "commie bullshit?" I'm a socialist. And there was a Kingdom of Greece ruled by King George I of Greece in 1870. Look it up.

[DrakoBlaria]

When you accept the most retarted rebellion in any RP ever I have every right to argue. And I am not doing it cause he is rebellng against me, I am ok with the jews and would be ok if he did it as something else but this is fking dumb.

That's like saying its impossible for British people to rebel against Britain. Sure, it'd be a bit a different if your capital was in Greece, but it isn't. It's in Turkey.

Greece of today is not Greece back then, it is like saying that Serbians are not slavs because their nation is in Illyrian land.

[Lewina]

When you accept the most retarted rebellion in any RP ever I have every right to argue. And I am not doing it cause he is rebellng against me, I am ok with the jews and would be ok if he did it as something else but this is fking dumb.

That's like saying its impossible for British people to rebel against Britain. Sure, it'd be a bit a different if your capital was in Greece, but it isn't. It's in Turkey.

And it's impossible that the Byzantine Empire could survive this long.

[DrakoBlaria]

Read a book about the Empire, then spread your commie bullshit. And there was no fking kingdom of Greece! The term Greek does not even exist for fks shake!

Since when have I been spreading my "commie bullshit?" I'm a socialist. And there was a Kingdom of Greece ruled by King George I of Greece in 1870. Look it up.

Trust me I know more Greek history than you, I am a fking Greek. And there was a Kingdom of Greece, established in 1830 after the Greek revolution AFTER the Ottoman occupation which happened AFTER the fall of Constantinople. None of this shit happened, and even if a Kingdom of Greece existed it would have been the one that reformed the Empire. So no, in RP logic there was never such a thing.

THIS IS MOTHERFKING ALT HISTORY! And no, it is certainly possible for the Empire to exist with no Fourth Crusade and no Turks arriving. ALT HISTORY!

[Britcan]

STOP ARGUING!!!

He was accepted, live with it.

[Lewina]

Since when have I been spreading my "commie bullshit?" I'm a socialist. And there was a Kingdom of Greece ruled by King George I of Greece in 1870. Look it up.

Trust me I know more Greek history than you, I am a fking Greek. And there was a Kingdom of Greece, established in 1830 after the Greek revolution AFTER the Ottoman occupation which happened AFTER the fall of Constantinople. None of this shit happened, and even if a Kingdom of Greece existed it would have been the one that reformed the Empire. So no, in RP logic there was never such a thing.

THIS IS MOTHERFKING ALT HISTORY! And no, it is certainly possible for the Empire to exist with no Fourth Crusade and no Turks arriving. ALT HISTORY!

You just admitted in that post that there was a Kingdom of Greece. I said there was a Kingdom of Greece. Then you said there was none. But there was one, and sure as hell didn't reform the empire.

The Fourth Crusade would've happened no matter what, and the Turks would've arrived no matter what. The Byzantine Empire couldn't of survived that long.

[Lewina]

And one of the reasons I'm rebelling is to make the Kingdom of Greece. Which was a real nation.

[DrakoBlaria]

Trust me I know more Greek history than you, I am a fking Greek. And there was a Kingdom of Greece, established in 1830 after the Greek revolution AFTER the Ottoman occupation which happened AFTER the fall of Constantinople. None of this shit happened, and even if a Kingdom of Greece existed it would have been the one that reformed the Empire. So no, in RP logic there was never such a thing.

THIS IS MOTHERFKING ALT HISTORY! And no, it is certainly possible for the Empire to exist with no Fourth Crusade and no Turks arriving. ALT HISTORY!

You just admitted in that post that there was a Kingdom of Greece. I said there was a Kingdom of Greece. Then you said there was none. But there was one, and sure as hell didn't reform the empire.

The Fourth Crusade would've happened no matter what, and the Turks would've arrived no matter what. The Byzantine Empire couldn't of survived that long.

The black part is bullshit. This is alt history so anything could happen. And the kingdom of Greece was created cause the Empire fell and the Greeks rebelled. I am talking that a Kingdom of Greece did not exist in this RP's timeline or IRL during the Byzantine Era. It was a result of the fall of the Empire. So since the 4th crusade never happened the Greeks are still calling themshelves Romans.

Dont argue about subjects in history you dont know shit about

[Britcan]

STOP THE FUCKING ARGUMENT!!!

[Lewina]

You just admitted in that post that there was a Kingdom of Greece. I said there was a Kingdom of Greece. Then you said there was none. But there was one, and sure as hell didn't reform the empire.

The Fourth Crusade would've happened no matter what, and the Turks would've arrived no matter what. The Byzantine Empire couldn't of survived that long.

The black part is bullshit. This is alt history so anything could happen. And the kingdom of Greece was created cause the Empire fell and the Greeks rebelled. I am talking that a Kingdom of Greece did not exist in this RP's timeline or IRL during the Byzantine Era. It was a result of the fall of the Empire. So since the 4th crusade never happened the Greeks are still calling themshelves Romans.

Dont argue about subjects in history you dont know shit about

1. George's father gained independence from them in 1833 but his rebellion was quickly put down.
2. You're calling the Byzantines in the RP Greeks.
3. The Fourth Crusade would've most definitely happened.
4. The Byzantine Empire still would've fallen 4 or 3 centuries ago.

[DrakoBlaria]

The black part is bullshit. This is alt history so anything could happen. And the kingdom of Greece was created cause the Empire fell and the Greeks rebelled. I am talking that a Kingdom of Greece did not exist in this RP's timeline or IRL during the Byzantine Era. It was a result of the fall of the Empire. So since the 4th crusade never happened the Greeks are still calling themshelves Romans.

Dont argue about subjects in history you dont know shit about

1. George's father gained independence from them in 1833 but his rebellion was quickly put down.
2. You're calling the Byzantines in the RP Greeks.
3. The Fourth Crusade would've most definitely happened.
4. The Byzantine Empire still would've fallen 4 or 3 centuries ago.

1) Independence, how and why did he do that?
2) I do it cause the Byzantines are a stupid name and 'Romans' would confuse people
3) Source? If anything, the fact that it happened was a series of tragic events
4) Not really, if it had kept its lands in anatolya and was never divided it could have lasted for much longer

[Lewina]

1. George's father gained independence from them in 1833 but his rebellion was quickly put down.
2. You're calling the Byzantines in the RP Greeks.
3. The Fourth Crusade would've most definitely happened.
4. The Byzantine Empire still would've fallen 4 or 3 centuries ago.

1) Independence, how and why did he do that?
2) I do it cause the Byzantines are a stupid name and 'Romans' would confuse people
3) Source? If anything, the fact that it happened was a series of tragic events
4) Not really, if it had kept its lands in anatolya and was never divided it could have lasted for much longer

1. Greed + hunger for land = war
2. No it's not.
3. Venice still would've taken many parts if the Byzantine Empire
4. The Crusaders and Venice were holding the Byzantine Empire by the sack, they would've never been able to keep any of their land.

[DrakoBlaria]

1) Independence, how and why did he do that?
2) I do it cause the Byzantines are a stupid name and 'Romans' would confuse people
3) Source? If anything, the fact that it happened was a series of tragic events
4) Not really, if it had kept its lands in anatolya and was never divided it could have lasted for much longer

1. Greed + hunger for land = war
2. No it's not.
3. Venice still would've taken many parts if the Byzantine Empire
4. The Crusaders and Venice were holding the Byzantine Empire by the sack, they would've never been able to keep any of their land.

1) So a randoom guy makes an army from nowhere?
2) Yes, it is. It was created by Hieronimos Wolf in the 16th century
3) Source? Also, you expect Venice to have existed, you also expect that the relation bewteen them had to be bad.
4) Not really, the Byzantine Empire actually managed to expand even after the 4th crusade, so you are talking shit.

[Hoenn and Sinnoh]

CODE: SELECT ALL
Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:

Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick IV
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 35000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 1750000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) I can't
Fleet:
Type of Economy:
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

[Landenburg]

CODE: SELECT ALL
Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick IV
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 35000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 1750000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) I can't
Fleet:
Type of Economy:
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

Kalmar Union has Scandinavia.

[Hoenn and Sinnoh]

CODE: SELECT ALL
Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick IV
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 35000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 1750000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) I can't
Fleet:
Type of Economy:
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

Kalmar Union has Scandinavia.

But he gave up.

[Kherkov]

Kalmar Union has Scandinavia.

But he gave up.

He did. You don't want Finland? And that history is a bit too brief. Pop is way too large.

You can't secribe your military? Bye.

Loom at other apps for examples.

[Hoenn and Sinnoh]

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:

Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 10000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 500000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: 250 k ships
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

[Kherkov]

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:
(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 10000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 500000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: 250 k ships
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

Do pop as 7 mil.

And you export Oats or Oak? Not sure if that's a typo.

And you have 250k ships? 250,000 ships? Nope.

[Britcan]

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:
(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 10000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 500000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: 250 k ships
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

Do pop as 7 mil.

And you export Oats or Oak? Not sure if that's a typo.

And you have 250k ships? 250,000 ships? Nope.

In any case fleet means the nature of your fleet, not the number of ships it contains.

[Hoenn and Sinnoh]

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:
(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 7000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 500000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: Nordic War Ships with Steam Engines
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

[Britcan]

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:
(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 7000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 500000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: Nordic War Ships with Steam Engines
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

500 000 is too many in the military. 5% of 7 million is 350 000.

[Hoenn and Sinnoh]

500 000 is too many in the military. 5% of 7 million is 350 000.

Oh, sorry. That was the 10 mil military. Here ya go:

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:
(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 7000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 350000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: Nordic War Ships with Steam Engines
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

[New Cochin]

I somehow really feel sorry for Hoenn and Sinnoh. But then now I'm afraid that his country may attack mine once he gets accepted. Not that I don't want him to be accepted.

[Kleomentia]

Nation Name: The United Empire of Scandinavia
National Flag:
(Image)
Claims: Scandinavia, Iceland, Finland
Form of Government: Absolute Imperialistic Monarchy
Head of State: King Frederick I
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 10000000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime) 500000
Military Type: (describe as best as you can) Typical European Army
Fleet: 250 k ships
Type of Economy: Capitalism
Primary Exports:Wood, Oat
Primary Imports: Food
Land Routes: (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's cities are connected in terms of roads) 7
Sea Routes (from a scale of 1-10, describe how well your nation's ports and that of others are connected by sea) 8
Harbor: (state the main port where your nation's wealth is traded for rare trade goods or precious ores, if you have one) Copenhagen
Government's Stance on Trade: (briefly, describe if your nation imposes tariffs and taxes, or practices embargoes on other nations, or if trade is allowed to happen freely without government interference) Government controlls all and imposes high tariffs on other countries.
Brief Summary on Nation's History: The Kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Dennmark were united due to marriages with King Harold I. He then became a Absolute King and he started conquering the nearby areas. He then changed the name from The Kalmar Union to the United Empire of Scandinavia. King Harold I died recently and King Frederick I took power.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=232310

How about this one? Please...

Do pop as 7 mil.

And you export Oats or Oak? Not sure if that's a typo.

And you have 250k ships? 250,000 ships? Nope.

Not to mention that his/her claims are already taken.