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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:34 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Yes, like thousands and hundreds of bandits would attack normal visitors that appears to have no money at all :roll:. Presuming that somehow hundreds and thousands of bandits actually manage to unite and find a small convoy of five people in the middle of a vast desert.

I mean in total in the desert. If one group of bandits doesn't kill them/rob them, than there would be many others to.

So it just happens that a group of spies and infiltrators got attacked by bandits? That's like an assassin getting found out by a drunk guy with a needle full of truth serum.

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Postby Dires » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:35 pm

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Dires wrote:Spain ignored my offer.....WAR lmfao

Wait!! Are China and Spain trading?!?! I guess everyone forgot about argument we had over how Mine And China's Allaince was faulty. Do not post IC until I get home off my phone. My alliance with China us to fast and people say they would only moderately no and say I made and allowed the alliance for my own benefit but now China, Spain, and The Dutch are setting up trade with China and are way farther away?!?! No, I wil handle this until then no one post IC.


Um, have you not been reading my posts about the Celestial Splitting into 3 parts? One stays in the Sinai, one went back east, one went around Africa to explore and finally have reached Europe
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:36 pm

Alleniana wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I mean in total in the desert. If one group of bandits doesn't kill them/rob them, than there would be many others to.

So it just happens that a group of spies and infiltrators got attacked by bandits? That's like an assassin getting found out by a drunk guy with a needle full of truth serum.

I so totally agree with this post. These Guards are traveling with the fortune through a desert that has no trade routes or towns, and why would a group of bandits be hanging out in an unprofitable desert in the first place? It makes no sense.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:37 pm

No moe trades until I can analyze all existing ones. I'm on my phone so I'll be home soon. IC is closed until I post it is open. And Dires no more ships to Europe, for now.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:39 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Alleniana wrote:So it just happens that a group of spies and infiltrators got attacked by bandits? That's like an assassin getting found out by a drunk guy with a needle full of truth serum.

I so totally agree with this post. These Guards are traveling with the fortune through a desert that has no trade routes or towns, and why would a group of bandits be hanging out in an unprofitable desert in the first place? It makes no sense.

Maybe they are traveling from city to city, happen to have a price on their head, and want to be undetected?
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:40 pm

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:41 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:I so totally agree with this post. These Guards are traveling with the fortune through a desert that has no trade routes or towns, and why would a group of bandits be hanging out in an unprofitable desert in the first place? It makes no sense.

Maybe they are traveling from city to city, happen to have a price on their head, and want to be undetected?

I say what happens to my shipment and guards. They are not traveling from city to city, nor have a price on their head. They went through the desert for the express purpose of avoiding that.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:44 pm

Everyone stfu!! I'm 5 min away from house. Quit posting for 5 min so I can get home, kiss my finacee, and get on the computer. FYI I'm on my phone.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:45 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Maybe they are traveling from city to city, happen to have a price on their head, and want to be undetected?

I say what happens to my shipment and guards. They are not traveling from city to city, nor have a price on their head. They went through the desert for the express purpose of avoiding that.

I meant the bandits.

Valentir wrote:Everyone stfu!! I'm 5 min away from house. Quit posting for 5 min so I can get home, kiss my finacee, and get on the computer. FYI I'm on my phone.

Okay.
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:46 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:I say what happens to my shipment and guards. They are not traveling from city to city, nor have a price on their head. They went through the desert for the express purpose of avoiding that.

I meant the bandits.

Valentir wrote:Everyone stfu!! I'm 5 min away from house. Quit posting for 5 min so I can get home, kiss my finacee, and get on the computer. FYI I'm on my phone.

Okay.

If the bandits didn't want to be detected, why would they attack a group of people?
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:46 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:I say what happens to my shipment and guards. They are not traveling from city to city, nor have a price on their head. They went through the desert for the express purpose of avoiding that.

I meant the bandits.

Dude... just let the merchants pass. Not every traveller will get ambushed by bandits.

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Postby Dires » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:46 pm

What a good fiancee lol
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:48 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I meant the bandits.


Okay.

If the bandits didn't want to be detected, why would they attack a group of people?

Traveling through the desert to avoid taxes and whatnot was not an alien concept. The bandits may be expecting to find travelers, but not Mamluk officials.

But anyway, lets wait for the OP. He seemed to want us all to stop posting temporally.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:49 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:If the bandits didn't want to be detected, why would they attack a group of people?

Traveling through the desert to avoid taxes and whatnot was not an alien concept. The bandits may be expecting to find travelers, but not Mamluk officials.

But anyway, lets wait for the OP. He seemed to want us all to stop posting temporally.

In the OOC as well?

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:50 pm

Alleniana wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Traveling through the desert to avoid taxes and whatnot was not an alien concept. The bandits may be expecting to find travelers, but not Mamluk officials.

But anyway, lets wait for the OP. He seemed to want us all to stop posting temporally.

In the OOC as well?

He meant the IC, for us to stop posting in the OOC would make no sense at all when it does not affect in game events...
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:51 pm

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Alleniana wrote:In the OOC as well?

He meant the IC, for us to stop posting in the OOC would make no sense at all when it does not affect in game events...

Ahem. Stop posting IC for just a couple of minutes so I can write my final decree post. Please and thank you.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:54 pm

Valentir wrote:
Kengburg wrote:He meant the IC, for us to stop posting in the OOC would make no sense at all when it does not affect in game events...

Ahem. Stop posting IC for just a couple of minutes so I can write my final decree post. Please and thank you.

Ok then. I hear and obey.

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:57 pm

I shall validate my trade with the Chinese as my colonies in North Africa are right next door to the Malmukes, and with giant Chinese Treasure Ships in a port there word was bound to spread quickly, and that is how the Former Sultan knew about it in the first place, and then told the Dutch States-General.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:59 pm

Kengburg wrote:I shall self-validate my trade with the Chinese as my colonies in North Africa are right next door to the Malmukes, and with giant Chinese Treasure Ships in a port there word was bound to spread quickly, and that is how the Former Sultan knew about it in the first place, and then told the Dutch States-General.

I think his issue is Chinese treasure ships there at all.

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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:00 pm

Okay firstly. A new rule. If you want to make a big secret trade agreement or a secret operation TG me first. Anything that I would disapprove that is posted and IC and my permission wasn't asked first will be ignored. I want to know about this before you post so I can analyze it and say yes or no.
Secondly. China, your ships arrived kinda of a bit to fast. I'll allow diplomatic relations but any trade agreements with countries will not be allowed until you IC post sending merchants and more than just exploring ships. And on this Dutch secret trade, Kengburg, you should have TGed me for my approval. Never post anything in that manner again without my seal of yes. And in random events I can make happen to your trade convoy. Now I'm not gonna be an asshole and do it but still. I want everyone to know that with giant trades and invasions many bad things can happen, good things can happen, but that is a small chance. Also no more secret operations of any kind without my approval are allowed. And Kengburg makes good points, backed up by Alleniana, but to be fair anything could have happened to this Secret Merchant Group. So, and I'm not saying I'm going to, but just because this thing is out of the blue and did not have my approval I may or may not random event it. I'm not saying I will but still this is a big trade, and really we cannot dictate the random things that happen. Indian Pirates could raid the shipping line and a my rogue navy could raid it, and if its protected enough, at least sink a ship or two. Now, I just got home and was skimming these posts so anything else I need to address? And I haven't been able to read a lot of the IC posts so I will do that in a little bit.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:02 pm

Valentir wrote:Okay firstly. A new rule. If you want to make a big secret trade agreement or a secret operation TG me first. Anything that I would disapprove that is posted and IC and my permission wasn't asked first will be ignored. I want to know about this before you post so I can analyze it and say yes or no.
Secondly. China, your ships arrived kinda of a bit to fast. I'll allow diplomatic relations but any trade agreements with countries will not be allowed until you IC post sending merchants and more than just exploring ships. And on this Dutch secret trade, Kengburg, you should have TGed me for my approval. Never post anything in that manner again without my seal of yes. And in random events I can make happen to your trade convoy. Now I'm not gonna be an asshole and do it but still. I want everyone to know that with giant trades and invasions many bad things can happen, good things can happen, but that is a small chance. Also no more secret operations of any kind without my approval are allowed. And Kengburg makes good points, backed up by Alleniana, but to be fair anything could have happened to this Secret Merchant Group. So, and I'm not saying I'm going to, but just because this thing is out of the blue and did not have my approval I may or may not random event it. I'm not saying I will but still this is a big trade, and really we cannot dictate the random things that happen. Indian Pirates could raid the shipping line and a my rogue navy could raid it, and if its protected enough, at least sink a ship or two. Now, I just got home and was skimming these posts so anything else I need to address? And I haven't been able to read a lot of the IC posts so I will do that in a little bit.

Well, I conquered Scotland, the Kingdom of Man and am now moving into Ireland. Any problems with that? Also, can I change my name to the Kingdom of Britannia?

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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:03 pm

Kengburg wrote:I shall validate my trade with the Chinese as my colonies in North Africa are right next door to the Malmukes, and with giant Chinese Treasure Ships in a port there word was bound to spread quickly, and that is how the Former Sultan knew about it in the first place, and then told the Dutch States-General.

Prove all you like but it is MY decision, then again if you have read my declaration post I'm already in your near favor. Allen that is all fine but your would need to take a breather and you would need to set up more efficient governing systems so take it easy on the conquering, other than that its okay.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:05 pm

Valentir wrote:
Kengburg wrote:I shall validate my trade with the Chinese as my colonies in North Africa are right next door to the Malmukes, and with giant Chinese Treasure Ships in a port there word was bound to spread quickly, and that is how the Former Sultan knew about it in the first place, and then told the Dutch States-General.

Prove all you like but it is MY decision, then again if you have read my declaration post I'm already in your near favor. Allen that is all fine but your would need to take a breather and you would need to set up more efficient governing systems so take it easy on the conquering, other than that its okay.

Ok then. I am having lots of castles built around Scotland to keep the populace in check and Henry VII was a boss at managing crap irl anyway, so you know. :p The Kingdom of Man is peanuts; their pop is like 25,000 so I didn't think I'd need to really do much to them. Anyway, thanks. Can we post ICly?

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:05 pm

Valentir wrote:
Kengburg wrote:I shall validate my trade with the Chinese as my colonies in North Africa are right next door to the Malmukes, and with giant Chinese Treasure Ships in a port there word was bound to spread quickly, and that is how the Former Sultan knew about it in the first place, and then told the Dutch States-General.

Prove all you like but it is MY decision, then again if you have read my declaration post I'm already in your near favor. Allen that is all fine but your would need to take a breather and you would need to set up more efficient governing systems so take it easy on the conquering, other than that its okay.

Fine, I shall begin resuming my posts in the IC. If that is OK.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:05 pm

Dires wrote:What a good fiancee lol

Thank You. I love my fiancee very dearly. And Allen okay, and yes the IC is open now.

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