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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:59 pm

Valentir wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Proposal: The cap for peacetime, or when you are having wars with NPCs, should be 120,000. The cap for having wars with player nations and when under attack by a player nation should be higher.

I will hold a vote when we get home. I'm such a democratic leader :p


Woho! Btw, when are the next random events coming? Not to rush you or anything :)
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:38 pm

Keng/Dutch Guy, you do realize that even trade with the Chinese settlement would be taxed heavily by the Egyptians, right? They wouldn't let you into Egypt without a price, or let you carry goods out of Egypt without a price.
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:23 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Keng/Dutch Guy, you do realize that even trade with the Chinese settlement would be taxed heavily by the Egyptians, right? They wouldn't let you into Egypt without a price, or let you carry goods out of Egypt without a price.

You do realize the people carrying the goods are disguised right? For the express purpose of avoiding your harsh taxes, or you seizing the fortune. They look like regular visitors/merchants, as seen in my past posts.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:26 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Keng/Dutch Guy, you do realize that even trade with the Chinese settlement would be taxed heavily by the Egyptians, right? They wouldn't let you into Egypt without a price, or let you carry goods out of Egypt without a price.

You do realize the people carrying the goods are disguised right? For the express purpose of avoiding your harsh taxes, or you seizing the fortune. They look like regular visitors/merchants, as seen in my past posts.

White people in an Arab nation. They would stick out like a Kenyan in China. Plus, anyone entering the nation, regardless of nationality, would pay an entrance fee.
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:28 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:You do realize the people carrying the goods are disguised right? For the express purpose of avoiding your harsh taxes, or you seizing the fortune. They look like regular visitors/merchants, as seen in my past posts.

White people in an Arab nation. They would stick out like a Kenyan in China. Plus, anyone entering the nation, regardless of nationality, would pay an entrance fee.

They are Native Algerian Royal Guards loyal to the Dutch that speak Arabic, and considering nations did not have full border security back then, they could have easily slipped through the thousands of miles of desert on your border, and pass off as Egyptian citizenry for that matter. I put this all in my previous posts fyi. Please read. Also you never mentioned an enterance fee for trading, so you cannot suddenly instate one.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:31 pm

As stated in the IC, Denmark and the Dutch Republic are negotiating peace with Sweden. Here are the terms:

Map: http://i.imgur.com/4ZzSsra.png
Sweden will have to give 9 regions to Denmark and the Dutch Republic (the color is specified, with a light color of the nation's color, and a red dot); notice the a region (Gotland County) will be divided in half between Denmark and the Dutch Republic. Sweden will have to recognize the 3 regions capture by Denmark (marked with a green dot), to be property of Denmark; in addition to this, Sweden will have to renounce to any demands on land made originally against Denmark (and recognize these regions as Denmark's). Sweden will have to sign a Treaty of Non-Aggression (for at least 1 year of RP time [that means for at least 3 forum pages]) with Denmark and the Dutch Republic. Finally, Sweden will have to pay an indemnity of 10 million Danish Krones to Denmark, and 10 million Danish Krones to the Dutch Republic.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:31 pm

Valentir wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Proposal: The cap for peacetime, or when you are having wars with NPCs, should be 120,000. The cap for having wars with player nations and when under attack by a player nation should be higher.

I will hold a vote when we get home. I'm such a democratic leader :p

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:32 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:White people in an Arab nation. They would stick out like a Kenyan in China. Plus, anyone entering the nation, regardless of nationality, would pay an entrance fee.

They are Native Algerian Royal Guards loyal to the Dutch that speak Arabic, and considering nations did not have full border security back then, they could have easily slipped through the thousands of miles of desert on your border, and pass off as Egyptian citizenry for that matter. I put this all in my previous posts fyi. Please read.

The Middle East and North Africa also happened to have a lot of bandits. Who says that bandits and marauders would not kill them?
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:32 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:They are Native Algerian Royal Guards loyal to the Dutch that speak Arabic, and considering nations did not have full border security back then, they could have easily slipped through the thousands of miles of desert on your border, and pass off as Egyptian citizenry for that matter. I put this all in my previous posts fyi. Please read.

The Middle East and North Africa also happened to have a lot of bandits. Who says that bandits and marauders would not kill them?

They are Algerian Royal Guards, the most skilled warriors in Algeria. Like a petty bandit would kill them :roll: .
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:34 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:The Middle East and North Africa also happened to have a lot of bandits. Who says that bandits and marauders would not kill them?

They are Algerian Royal Guards, the most skilled warriors in Algeria. Like a petty bandit would kill them :roll: .

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:35 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:The Middle East and North Africa also happened to have a lot of bandits. Who says that bandits and marauders would not kill them?

They are Algerian Royal Guards, the most skilled warriors in Algeria. Like a petty bandit would kill them :roll: .

If they are disguised as normal visitors, how would the bandits recognize them? And there would be hundreds, if not thousands of them.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:35 pm

Riserland wrote:[
The letter was delivered to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella simultaneously with King John's surrender. The King's adviser also mentioned that a similar offer had been given to the English which they promptly had accepted. Hours passed before a responce was finally drafted and entrusted to a carrier....

What? I am the English, I don't remember that.

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:36 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:They are Algerian Royal Guards, the most skilled warriors in Algeria. Like a petty bandit would kill them :roll: .

If they are disguised as normal visitors, how would the bandits recognize them? And there would be hundreds, if not thousands of them.

Yes, like thousands and hundreds of bandits would attack normal visitors that appears to have no money at all :roll:. Presuming that somehow hundreds and thousands of bandits actually manage to unite and find a small convoy of five people in the middle of a vast desert.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:39 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:If they are disguised as normal visitors, how would the bandits recognize them? And there would be hundreds, if not thousands of them.

Yes, like thousands and hundreds of bandits would attack normal visitors that appears to have no money at all :roll:.

Yeah, I mean, it's not like they kill every damn traveller is it? Otherwise, how the hell does trade work?

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:43 pm

The maximum number of people in your average bandit party is around twenty. They would be along trading routes, looking for giant caravans of wagons and horses, not in the middle of the desert looking for a group of nine middle class visitors. Even if they did, these are nine of the most skilled warriors in Algeria, they would dispatch the bandits with ease. So the chance of a large group of bandits in the middle of a desert that rarely has any trade caravans, then actually finding nine middle class people worth attacking in the first place, is near two percent.
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Postby Dires » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:52 pm

Spain ignored my offer.....WAR lmfao
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:10 pm

Dires wrote:Spain ignored my offer.....WAR lmfao


You ignored my trade request :(
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:16 pm

Kengburg wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:If they are disguised as normal visitors, how would the bandits recognize them? And there would be hundreds, if not thousands of them.

Yes, like thousands and hundreds of bandits would attack normal visitors that appears to have no money at all :roll:. Presuming that somehow hundreds and thousands of bandits actually manage to unite and find a small convoy of five people in the middle of a vast desert.

I mean in total in the desert. If one group of bandits doesn't kill them/rob them, than there would be many others to.
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:20 pm

Since of my colony in New Jersey, Fort Nassau, I hearby issue this as the new map if the Sweden Negotiations work out.

http://i.imgur.com/7Ihtsky.png
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:22 pm

Dires wrote:Spain ignored my offer.....WAR lmfao

Wait!! Are China and Spain trading?!?! I guess everyone forgot about argument we had over how Mine And China's Allaince was faulty. Do not post IC until I get home off my phone. My alliance with China us to fast and people say they would only moderately no and say I made and allowed the alliance for my own benefit but now China, Spain, and The Dutch are setting up trade with China and are way farther away?!?! No, I wil handle this until then no one post IC.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:27 pm

Kengburg wrote:Since of my colony in New Jersey, Fort Nassau, I hearby issue this as the new map if the Sweden Negotiations work out.

http://i.imgur.com/7Ihtsky.png

What are the dots on the map in Sweden?

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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:28 pm

Valentir wrote:
Dires wrote:Spain ignored my offer.....WAR lmfao

Wait!! Are China and Spain trading?!?! I guess everyone forgot about argument we had over how Mine And China's Allaince was faulty. Do not post IC until I get home off my phone. My alliance with China us to fast and people say they would only moderately no and say I made and allowed the alliance for my own benefit but now China, Spain, and The Dutch are setting up trade with China and are way farther away?!?! No, I wil handle this until then no one post IC.

Dafuq? :blink:
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Postby Kengburg » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:30 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Yes, like thousands and hundreds of bandits would attack normal visitors that appears to have no money at all :roll:. Presuming that somehow hundreds and thousands of bandits actually manage to unite and find a small convoy of five people in the middle of a vast desert.

I mean in total in the desert. If one group of bandits doesn't kill them/rob them, than there would be many others to.

Like I said in my last post.

"The maximum number of people in your average bandit party is around twenty. They would be along trading routes, looking for giant caravans of wagons and horses, not in the middle of the desert looking for a group of nine middle class visitors. Even if they did, these are nine of the most skilled warriors in Algeria, they would dispatch the bandits with ease. So the chance of a large group of 20 bandits in the middle of a desert that rarely has any trade caravans, then actually finding nine middle class people worth attacking in the first place, is near two percent."
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Postby Dires » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:33 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Dires wrote:Spain ignored my offer.....WAR lmfao


You ignored my trade request :(


lol, it just takes longer to reach me
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