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Mauretania Tingitana
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:51 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Oh, good. :)

So no change?


A half a million armed men would be about six percent of your populace, and the seven million from Iberia includes Christians.

So, no, still change.

I'm figuring since it's wartime I can go past the 5%, and it's been 20 years since I've conquered Iberia. Many have been converted. But let's compromise. 300,000?

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Postby Valentir » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:52 pm

Am I England now? And MT I would say you could have maybe 200,000, But that is my opinion.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:55 pm

Hydrichastan wrote:Simagino, Finland
On the west flank, due to the position on the ridge, the allies have an extreme advantage. They make a shield wall and push the Rus. back with great power.
The cavalry ram into the rear of the Rus. attackers.
There are mild casualties among the men from crossbow fire, but their shield hold.

The Dane lancers succeed at distracting the crossbowmen long enough for their archers to unleash thousands of arrows upon their ranks. Their broad-heads are like fishing hooks and cause more damage and pierce right through the kite shields of the crossbowmen.


I have a couple problems with this post Hydrichastan.

1) I RPed my men arriving on the ridgeline, meaning they are on even ground with your forces. Furthermore your forces on your west flank are cavalry, meaning they can't make shield walls. Which leads us to....
2) Your cavalry would have to manuever down the the ridge and around five thousandish men in order to strike the rear of my forces, in which time the Great Russian forces would have time to manuever as well.
3) The riders are firing at your Danish cavalry, as are my crossbowmen. No one is aiming up the hill at your men with shields right now.
4) The crossbowmen are firing from behind kiteshields which are partially imbedded in the ground- distraction isn't an issue- since crossbows are two-handed in the first place. Furthermore, how do I outnumber your men with more specialized archers and yet you can fire in a higher volume than my 3000ish bowmen of various kinds?
5) Finally, broadhead arrows were meant to severely wound lightly armored targets- not pierce armor. Their heads are actually broader than normal arrows, hence the name, which means they spread their force across a larger area and that they are less effective than regular arrows at penetrating shields/armor, not more.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:12 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hydrichastan wrote:Simagino, Finland
On the west flank, due to the position on the ridge, the allies have an extreme advantage. They make a shield wall and push the Rus. back with great power.
The cavalry ram into the rear of the Rus. attackers.
There are mild casualties among the men from crossbow fire, but their shield hold.

The Dane lancers succeed at distracting the crossbowmen long enough for their archers to unleash thousands of arrows upon their ranks. Their broad-heads are like fishing hooks and cause more damage and pierce right through the kite shields of the crossbowmen.


I have a couple problems with this post Hydrichastan.

1) I RPed my men arriving on the ridgeline, meaning they are on even ground with your forces. Furthermore your forces on your west flank are cavalry, meaning they can't make shield walls. Which leads us to....
2) Your cavalry would have to manuever down the the ridge and around five thousandish men in order to strike the rear of my forces, in which time the Great Russian forces would have time to manuever as well.
3) The riders are firing at your Danish cavalry, as are my crossbowmen. No one is aiming up the hill at your men with shields right now.
4) The crossbowmen are firing from behind kiteshields which are partially imbedded in the ground- distraction isn't an issue- since crossbows are two-handed in the first place. Furthermore, how do I outnumber your men with more specialized archers and yet you can fire in a higher volume than my 3000ish bowmen of various kinds?
5) Finally, broadhead arrows were meant to severely wound lightly armored targets- not pierce armor. Their heads are actually broader than normal arrows, hence the name, which means they spread their force across a larger area and that they are less effective than regular arrows at penetrating shields/armor, not more.

When was the last PvP battle before this? I don't believe there was one since the Pisan-Florentine War.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:26 am

Alleniana wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I have a couple problems with this post Hydrichastan.

1) I RPed my men arriving on the ridgeline, meaning they are on even ground with your forces. Furthermore your forces on your west flank are cavalry, meaning they can't make shield walls. Which leads us to....
2) Your cavalry would have to manuever down the the ridge and around five thousandish men in order to strike the rear of my forces, in which time the Great Russian forces would have time to manuever as well.
3) The riders are firing at your Danish cavalry, as are my crossbowmen. No one is aiming up the hill at your men with shields right now.
4) The crossbowmen are firing from behind kiteshields which are partially imbedded in the ground- distraction isn't an issue- since crossbows are two-handed in the first place. Furthermore, how do I outnumber your men with more specialized archers and yet you can fire in a higher volume than my 3000ish bowmen of various kinds?
5) Finally, broadhead arrows were meant to severely wound lightly armored targets- not pierce armor. Their heads are actually broader than normal arrows, hence the name, which means they spread their force across a larger area and that they are less effective than regular arrows at penetrating shields/armor, not more.

When was the last PvP battle before this? I don't believe there was one since the Pisan-Florentine War.


Jon fought Melas in Anatolia... I think?

I am having a bit of trouble with Hy, since he won't track casualties or take the tactical approach to RPing :/
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Postby Hydrichastan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:07 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hydrichastan wrote:Simagino, Finland
On the west flank, due to the position on the ridge, the allies have an extreme advantage. They make a shield wall and push the Rus. back with great power.
The cavalry ram into the rear of the Rus. attackers.
There are mild casualties among the men from crossbow fire, but their shield hold.

The Dane lancers succeed at distracting the crossbowmen long enough for their archers to unleash thousands of arrows upon their ranks. Their broad-heads are like fishing hooks and cause more damage and pierce right through the kite shields of the crossbowmen.


I have a couple problems with this post Hydrichastan.

1) I RPed my men arriving on the ridgeline, meaning they are on even ground with your forces. Furthermore your forces on your west flank are cavalry, meaning they can't make shield walls. Which leads us to....
2) Your cavalry would have to manuever down the the ridge and around five thousandish men in order to strike the rear of my forces, in which time the Great Russian forces would have time to manuever as well.
3) The riders are firing at your Danish cavalry, as are my crossbowmen. No one is aiming up the hill at your men with shields right now.
4) The crossbowmen are firing from behind kiteshields which are partially imbedded in the ground- distraction isn't an issue- since crossbows are two-handed in the first place. Furthermore, how do I outnumber your men with more specialized archers and yet you can fire in a higher volume than my 3000ish bowmen of various kinds?
5) Finally, broadhead arrows were meant to severely wound lightly armored targets- not pierce armor. Their heads are actually broader than normal arrows, hence the name, which means they spread their force across a larger area and that they are less effective than regular arrows at penetrating shields/armor, not more.

Edit. Sorry i was kinda confused of where your guys are.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:57 pm

Liecht, the pope could ask for other Christian Nations to aid against the Moslems in Tunis and Levant.
I'm really tired

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Postby Hydrichastan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:59 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Liecht, the pope could ask for other Christian Nations to aid against the Moslems in Tunis and Levant.

I would if i wasn't fighting the Rus.
National Motto: "Multi Adunatum Sub Uno Ordine"
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{5}
Army: 14,134,000
Marines: 2,942,000
SMTF (Special Mission Termination Forces): 340,000
Total ships : 997
Total Air force Personnel: 2,890,000
Total Planes: 6,600
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:01 pm

Hydrichastan wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Liecht, the pope could ask for other Christian Nations to aid against the Moslems in Tunis and Levant.

I would if i wasn't fighting the Rus.

By fighting G, your inviting a Kievan Host to attack you as well.
I'm really tired

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Postby Hydrichastan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:02 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Hydrichastan wrote:I would if i wasn't fighting the Rus.

By fighting G, your inviting a Kievan Host to attack you as well.

why would he do that?
National Motto: "Multi Adunatum Sub Uno Ordine"
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{5}
Army: 14,134,000
Marines: 2,942,000
SMTF (Special Mission Termination Forces): 340,000
Total ships : 997
Total Air force Personnel: 2,890,000
Total Planes: 6,600
Total Drones: 7,029
Nuclear Weapons: 1010
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:03 pm

Hydrichastan wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:By fighting G, your inviting a Kievan Host to attack you as well.

why would he do that?

Kiev, Pereyaslavl and Great Russia are in an alliance called the Pact.
I'm really tired

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Postby Hydrichastan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:15 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Hydrichastan wrote:why would he do that?

Kiev, Pereyaslavl and Great Russia are in an alliance called the Pact.

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National Motto: "Multi Adunatum Sub Uno Ordine"
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Army: 14,134,000
Marines: 2,942,000
SMTF (Special Mission Termination Forces): 340,000
Total ships : 997
Total Air force Personnel: 2,890,000
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:18 pm

Hydrichastan wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Kiev, Pereyaslavl and Great Russia are in an alliance called the Pact.

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You have 600,000 people give or take 100k. I have 5,500,000 People give or take 500,000. G Tech has 10,200,000 give or take a few hundred thousand. Pere/Pavs will have 3,500,000 when he gets his shit together. You. Will. Die.
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Postby Hydrichastan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:19 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Hydrichastan wrote:(Image)

You have 600,000 people give or take 100k. I have 5,500,000 People give or take 500,000. G Tech has 10,200,000 give or take a few hundred thousand. Pere/Pavs will have 3,500,000 when he gets his shit together. You. Will. Die.

I know, i plan on giving him eastern finland and the kola penninsula.
National Motto: "Multi Adunatum Sub Uno Ordine"
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{5}
Army: 14,134,000
Marines: 2,942,000
SMTF (Special Mission Termination Forces): 340,000
Total ships : 997
Total Air force Personnel: 2,890,000
Total Planes: 6,600
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:21 pm

Hydrichastan wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:You have 600,000 people give or take 100k. I have 5,500,000 People give or take 500,000. G Tech has 10,200,000 give or take a few hundred thousand. Pere/Pavs will have 3,500,000 when he gets his shit together. You. Will. Die.

I know, i plan on giving him eastern finland and the kola penninsula.

You can not give what will be taken~ Ivan the 5th of Kiev, 1345 AD
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:23 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Hydrichastan wrote:I know, i plan on giving him eastern finland and the kola penninsula.

You can not give what will be taken~ Ivan the 5th of Kiev, 1345 AD


On that note, you should totally send some Kievan sailors and shipbuilders up to Ruga. Great Russia can fight on land, but our naval men are inexperienced, though stalwart.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:25 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:You can not give what will be taken~ Ivan the 5th of Kiev, 1345 AD


On that note, you should totally send some Kievan sailors and shipbuilders up to Ruga. Great Russia can fight on land, but our naval men are inexperienced, though stalwart.

I can sail some Long Ships up Via The Dnieper and tributaries and march some men up on the roads. OH MY GAWD! G, We have to start a Inter-Pact Road System!
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Postby Angle Empire » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:30 pm

Could i be England?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:30 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
On that note, you should totally send some Kievan sailors and shipbuilders up to Ruga. Great Russia can fight on land, but our naval men are inexperienced, though stalwart.

I can sail some Long Ships up Via The Dnieper and tributaries and march some men up on the roads. OH MY GAWD! G, We have to start a Inter-Pact Road System!


That would probably be a good plan, for troop movements and trade. Really though, Great Russia needs to build a serious road system to its new conquests as a second priority... I doubt the Kipchaks cared about roads much, being mostly mounted and whatnot.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:40 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Liecht, the pope could ask for other Christian Nations to aid against the Moslems in Tunis and Levant.


Im not Muslim....
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:42 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Liecht, the pope could ask for other Christian Nations to aid against the Moslems in Tunis and Levant.


Im not Muslim....

No, but the army at your border is.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:53 pm

Angle Empire wrote:Could i be England?

I signed up as England.

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Mauretania Tingitana
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:47 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Im not Muslim....

No, but the army at your border is.

Bahaha Just try it, infidel! You will fall as Aragon did before you.

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Postby Valentir » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:52 pm

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:No, but the army at your border is.

Bahaha Just try it, infidel! You will fall as Aragon did before you.

If G-Tech accepts me as England wanna be allies and invade Italy?

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Postby Mauretania Tingitana » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:09 pm

Valentir wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Bahaha Just try it, infidel! You will fall as Aragon did before you.

If G-Tech accepts me as England wanna be allies and invade Italy?

...We'll need a good reason, but yes! (I'll take the islands and the south, you can have Rome and the north?)

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