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Postby Al-Quarra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:07 pm

Halleon wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:Can somebody answer my questions so i can post?...


I would answer your question but I don't want to answer it in the wrong way or contradict what the Op may say about it.


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Al-Quarra wrote:Can somebody answer my questions so i can post?...

What was your question?


I want to get more provinces to get a bigger army, but when i send a demand for surrender to unplayed provinces should i post it in the diplomacy threat or just in the IC?

And who's updating the map when regions are added?

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:08 pm

Al-Quarra wrote:
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I would answer your question but I don't want to answer it in the wrong way or contradict what the Op may say about it.


I Understand that

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:What was your question?


I want to get more provinces to get a bigger army, but when i send a demand for surrender to unplayed provinces should i post it in the diplomacy threat or just in the IC?

And who's updating the map when regions are added?

I am only Co-OP, but I would say diplomacy. It is a diplomatic message whether or not there is a player to respond to it.
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Postby Al-Quarra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:09 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
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I Understand that



I want to get more provinces to get a bigger army, but when i send a demand for surrender to unplayed provinces should i post it in the diplomacy threat or just in the IC?

And who's updating the map when regions are added?

I am only Co-OP, but I would say diplomacy. It is a diplomatic message whether or not there is a player to respond to it.


Who is actually playing nonplayed regions?
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:11 pm

I kinda think the Op doesn't want players to just walk in and take Npc land instead I think he wants Players to focus on each other but I'm not sure.
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:12 pm

Halleon wrote:I kinda think the Op doesn't want players to just walk in and take Npc land instead I think he wants Players to focus on each other but I'm not sure.


Yeah, he only allowed me to take Wales and thats it.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:14 pm

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I am only Co-OP, but I would say diplomacy. It is a diplomatic message whether or not there is a player to respond to it.


Who is actually playing nonplayed regions?

Nobody. They are NPCs.
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Postby Al-Quarra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:16 pm

Hmm... but there should be a way to increase your army a bit and to increase your land without attacking someone that is a hundred times stronger then you...

If i would have to attack Persia it would be like digging my own grave at the moment...

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Postby Al-Quarra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:18 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
Who is actually playing nonplayed regions?

Nobody. They are NPCs.


Alright so... can they be conquerd at all? (my idea was to create a bigger horde before starting a war with Persia, i would be fair with the NPC's on the hand of joining and refusing and stuff...)

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:18 pm

Al-Quarra wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Nobody. They are NPCs.


Alright so... can they be conquerd at all? (my idea was to create a bigger horde before starting a war with Persia, i would be fair with the NPC's on the hand of joining and refusing and stuff...)

I doubt the OP has any issue with that.
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:20 pm

I'm tempted to say the Op is in charge of them but I'm not sure, in some role plays everyone just focuses on taking npc lands but with over extension existing in this role play that shouldn't be a problem. I guess go on and deal with the npc's just don't go overboard on it and if the Op doesn't agree with it, I'm sure he will say something about it.
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Postby Al-Quarra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:21 pm

Alright, I will make my post and if the OP doesn't want that to happen i will change it;)

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:23 pm

Halleon wrote:I'm tempted to say the Op is in charge of them but I'm not sure, in some role plays everyone just focuses on taking npc lands but with over extension existing in this role play that shouldn't be a problem. I guess go on and deal with the npc's just don't go overboard on it and if the Op doesn't agree with it, I'm sure he will say something about it.

OP has enough to worry about. I doubt he would RP them. I will, however, RP NPC's if the OP permits.
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:26 pm

By Op controls them I don't mean he actually rp's as them he gave Ralnis permission to act against npc Wales in that way he controls the Npc's by giving permission to a player for that npc to be conquered or assimilated whatever the case might be.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:27 pm

Halleon wrote:
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So would 60,000 persons satisfy you? anything lower would be a little unrealistic considering I can form a total army of 10,000


I will have to talk to the Op about it I think both military and administration should come into play concerning military numbers, if your leader lacks in military then I'm guessing your 10,000 army would get steam rolled by a leader with a higher military rating but who also has a low administration rating meaning a smaller army.


his military skills are adequate, though he has no diplomatic skills whatsoever.
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:27 pm

the problem is, even though conquering new lands should get you new people, you don't get a larger army with the current system, which seems silly.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:27 pm

New Aksarben wrote:the problem is, even though conquering new lands should get you new people, you don't get a larger army with the current system, which seems silly.

Also, could you reply to me asking for Vandal support in Britannia?
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:29 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Halleon wrote:
I will have to talk to the Op about it I think both military and administration should come into play concerning military numbers, if your leader lacks in military then I'm guessing your 10,000 army would get steam rolled by a leader with a higher military rating but who also has a low administration rating meaning a smaller army.


his military skills are adequate, though he has no diplomatic skills whatsoever.


You have 10 Administration right? That means you have 5 points left? I'm guess your military is 3 and your diplomacy is 2?
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Ralnis wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:That will be easy. Several Roman legions, a Vandal Army, piece of cake.

And lets not forget the constant revlouts and the mass starvation, less taxation and other things plaguing your empire to also stop you from expanding.


Combine that with the massive distances involved(the wikings were only able to get here in roughly the 800s) and the fact Rome was not much of a naval power. Its ships were meant for the calm relatively shallow waters of the Mediterranean, not the frigid deep waters of the Atlantic. This is part of the reason why we have remained so isolated and never have tried to go and see the world, boats that are perfect in shallow coastal water are extremely poor in the open ocean.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Halleon wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
his military skills are adequate, though he has no diplomatic skills whatsoever.


You have 10 Administration right? That means you have 5 points left? I'm guess your military is 3 and your diplomacy is 2?


his administration is 10, military is 4, diplomacy is 1
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:32 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Halleon wrote:
You have 10 Administration right? That means you have 5 points left? I'm guess your military is 3 and your diplomacy is 2?


his administration is 10, military is 4, diplomacy is 1


I went for a more balanced leader but in any case most of the barbarian leaders have at least 6 military so my point still stands.
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:32 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
New Aksarben wrote:the problem is, even though conquering new lands should get you new people, you don't get a larger army with the current system, which seems silly.

Also, could you reply to me asking for Vandal support in Britannia?

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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:39 pm

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I know. I meant in the entire Army.


We have a better trained army and have vicious Vandal allies?

Once again. No. At the height of the Roman Empire it consisted of about 30 legions. With the current issues, and the Roman legions being split from west and east you have 7. At most you might have 42,000 men if the legions are at full strength. That is if you can afford the service.


op said uncivs could have 3-5 times their number of administration, he has an administration of 6 that means he has between 18-30 thousand men at best. combine that with the fact that incivs get better quality troops, you see where I am getting at?
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Postby Aeken » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:40 pm

When you mean killing settlers, are you referring to the battle scene? Because I meant to make it clear that they were avoiding the battle and were moving into other coastal areas. It'd be unlikely for soldiers to suddenly come up and attack them.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:43 pm

Aeken wrote:When you mean killing settlers, are you referring to the battle scene? Because I meant to make it clear that they were avoiding the battle and were moving into other coastal areas. It'd be unlikely for soldiers to suddenly come up and attack them.

I meant soldiers breaking off and running after the settlers sneaking away from the battle.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:45 pm

Halleon wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
his administration is 10, military is 4, diplomacy is 1


I went for a more balanced leader but in any case most of the barbarian leaders have at least 6 military so my point still stands.


Yaa my military leader has 4, 6 is not much of a difference. combine that with my numbers, most barbarian leaders pathetic administration abilities(which means they cant form large armies), the fact that no sane man would ever send his entire army to come go and invade anyone especaully one so distant as me(further giving my troops a numerical advantage), I think i can hold My own against most barbarian hordes.
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