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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:37 am

Halleon wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Why does it matter?


Then you know how many people you are taxing, defending, how many mouths you have to feed, workers and warriors, the list goes on.

because then you know how many people are fighting when you migrate. not having at least estimates can lead to huge arguments in a rp.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:38 am

Halleon wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Why does it matter?


Then you know how many people you are taxing, defending, how many mouths you have to feed, workers and warriors, the list goes on.

I'll figure it out tomorrow, it's 3:40 and I'm exhausted.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

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Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:39 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Halleon wrote:
Then you know how many people you are taxing, defending, how many mouths you have to feed, workers and warriors, the list goes on.

I'll figure it out tomorrow, it's 3:40 and I'm exhausted.

that's fine.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:00 am

I think total population should be determined by land area more or less and the quality of land, most countries had population densities measuring between 4-10 at this time. Since Iceland is about 40,000 sq mi and combine that with the northerlness of it and are poor farming qualities I would say we would have a density of roughly 4-5 persons per square mile at the time(that is 160-200 thousand persons total)
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:05 am

Kazarogkai wrote:I think total population should be determined by land area more or less and the quality of land, most countries had population densities measuring between 4-10 at this time. Since Iceland is about 40,000 sq mi and combine that with the northerlness of it and are poor farming qualities I would say we would have a density of roughly 4-5 persons per square mile at the time(that is 160-200 thousand persons total)


I think 160 to 200 thousand for Iceland seems a bit off considering the fact according to this link even today or at least in 2012, the population is only 319,575. To back this up here is that link http://www.statice.is/Statistics/Population.
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:06 am

there could be probably 50-70 thousand in Iceland at this time.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:14 am

my administrative ability is 10 so meaning I could have 10,000 standing but since I dont have a professional military really instead I have a Large citizen army. Also my military is technically located all over my island, pretty much all villages are basically small strongholds(they resemble Maori Pā) built on hill sides and such(this leaves the tops of hills as pastureland and the bottoms for farm). In case of attack the men of the village will come out and face the enemy directly with their slings while the women will stay behind to man the walls.
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:15 am

..... you are uncivilized right? if so, you only get 10 thousand. no more.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:15 am

Halleon wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:I think total population should be determined by land area more or less and the quality of land, most countries had population densities measuring between 4-10 at this time. Since Iceland is about 40,000 sq mi and combine that with the northerlness of it and are poor farming qualities I would say we would have a density of roughly 4-5 persons per square mile at the time(that is 160-200 thousand persons total)


I think 160 to 200 thousand for Iceland seems a bit off considering the fact according to this link even today or at least in 2012, the population is only 319,575. To back this up here is that link http://www.statice.is/Statistics/Population.


Unlike the Norse who came here very recently the Jax in this RP have been around for centuries of years and have properly adapted to the conditions so as such are pop should be density wise similar to what most European countries had at this time, more or less.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:16 am

New Aksarben wrote:..... you are uncivilized right? if so, you only get 10 thousand. no more.


oops forgot I am uncivilized, that sucks.
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:42 am

Population numbers have to be realistic it doesn't matter how long your people have been there Iceland isn't the type of land to be able to be home to 200 thousand people during this that's just ridiculousness to me unless your trying to say your people are better adapted to those lands and more advanced then the people who actually lived there in 2012? The Op can figure this up but I'm doubting your population is that high that's one of the cost of picking a land like Iceland to start off the role play at.

Side note: The United commonwealth of ayrshire I don't think he was accepted into this role play and his post sucks which shows how bad of a rper he is. The Op will deal with that and hopefully get his post removed but I ask as a fellow rper that everyone has somewhat decent post and not make the role play look bad by poor rping.
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:46 am

yeah he was. look at the UCA in the OP
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:47 am

New Aksarben wrote:yeah he was. look at the UCA in the OP


That's a shame then his post sucks and I hope you or anyone else doesn't post like that.
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"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:51 am

I did my Post did not know what tribes inhabit Wales, so I had to use wikipedia for the info. If anyone can give me any info that will be great.
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:56 am

Halleon wrote:
New Aksarben wrote:yeah he was. look at the UCA in the OP


That's a shame then his post sucks and I hope you or anyone else doesn't post like that.


He should not even have 30,000 troops, maybe around 2-3 thousand atleast.
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Postby Halleon » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:00 am

Ralnis wrote:
Halleon wrote:
That's a shame then his post sucks and I hope you or anyone else doesn't post like that.


He should not even have 30,000 troops, maybe around 2-3 thousand atleast.


That's one of the reasons I was hoping he wasn't accepted but it looks like he was but his 3 sentences could have been made into something a bit better. I'm not a great rper but I do count myself as a decent one and I don't like his post at all, I would prefer if everyone put some effort into their post but his is the only one I really have a problem with for obvious reasons.
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:05 am

Was United commonwealth of ayrshire accepted.
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:06 am

yes. Look at UCA in the character list Emilio. the IC thread started if you didn't know.
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:39 am

New Aksarben wrote:yes. Look at UCA in the character list Emilio. the IC thread started if you didn't know.

Uh, is three sentences considered a one liner.
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Postby New Aksarben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:48 am

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
New Aksarben wrote:yes. Look at UCA in the character list Emilio. the IC thread started if you didn't know.

Uh, is three sentences considered a one liner.

yes.... if it only takes up one line. just think of what you want to do, and elaborate the crap out of it. that's what I did.
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Postby Florinia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:51 am

Update: My internet trouble would take a week to repair. >_<

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:08 am

New Aksarben wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:Uh, is three sentences considered a one liner.

yes.... if it only takes up one line. just think of what you want to do, and elaborate the crap out of it. that's what I did.

Not to mention it breaks, like, three rules of the RP. Jeezus. I leave for like three hours to sleep and this happens... Since he's playing a fairly important Balacing role, does anyone want to assume the role of the Picts? Or should I turn them NPC?
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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:08 am

Florinia wrote:Update: My internet trouble would take a week to repair. >_<

If you can make these posts can you not make an app?
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Florinia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:35 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Florinia wrote:Update: My internet trouble would take a week to repair. >_<

If you can make these posts can you not make an app?


I kinda use the internet from my neighbors. :P
I'm gonna hold on

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:37 am

Florinia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:If you can make these posts can you not make an app?


I kinda use the internet from my neighbors. :P
I'm gonna hold on

If you plan on getting an app in, it's Wednesday or bust.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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