399 A.D: A Time of Dying Empires [OOC, Open, once again.]

[Halleon]

With the splitting of the Roman Empire the Western Empire didn't get the best side of the deal in my opinion but I think if you played your cards right you could bring the Western Empire to some of the life it once held and fight back the hordes that are trying to take what is yours.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

With the splitting of the Roman Empire the Western Empire didn't get the best side of the deal in my opinion but I think if you played your cards right you could bring the Western Empire to some of the life it once held and fight back the hordes that are trying to take what is yours.

It would have been better if the WRE got Egypt. Egypt was the center of wealth and trade for the Empire.

[New Aksarben]

With the splitting of the Roman Empire the Western Empire didn't get the best side of the deal in my opinion but I think if you played your cards right you could bring the Western Empire to some of the life it once held and fight back the hordes that are trying to take what is yours.

It would be very, very difficult though.

With the splitting of the Roman Empire the Western Empire didn't get the best side of the deal in my opinion but I think if you played your cards right you could bring the Western Empire to some of the life it once held and fight back the hordes that are trying to take what is yours.

It would have been better if the WRE got Egypt. Egypt was the center of wealth and trade for the Empire.

Then the Byzantines would have died first. then the WRE. Rome would not have been as influential to modern culture and Christianity possibly could have fallen to Islam. and its not even if the WRE got Egypt

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

With the splitting of the Roman Empire the Western Empire didn't get the best side of the deal in my opinion but I think if you played your cards right you could bring the Western Empire to some of the life it once held and fight back the hordes that are trying to take what is yours.

It would be very, very difficult though.

It would have been better if the WRE got Egypt. Egypt was the center of wealth and trade for the Empire.

Then the Byzantines would have died first. then the WRE. Rome would not have been as influential to modern culture and Christianity possibly could have fallen to Islam. and its not even if the WRE got Egypt

So? Western Roman Empire ftw!

Plus Islam ain't a bad religion.

[New Aksarben]

It would be very, very difficult though.




Then the Byzantines would have died first. then the WRE. Rome would not have been as influential to modern culture and Christianity possibly could have fallen to Islam. and its not even if the WRE got Egypt

So? Western Roman Empire ftw!

Plus Islam ain't a bad religion.

The world would be radically different though. and nothing can live forever. not even nations.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

So? Western Roman Empire ftw!

Plus Islam ain't a bad religion.

The world would be radically different though. and nothing can live forever. not even nations.

I have a great deal of respect for Islam, and am a fan of Islamic culture, and thus I would not mind that. Plus the Western Roman Empire would have lasted a century or two longer and could have made major breakthroughs which would effect modern life.

[New Aksarben]

The world would be radically different though. and nothing can live forever. not even nations.

I have a great deal of respect for Islam, and am a fan of Islamic culture, and thus I would not mind that. Plus the Western Roman Empire would have lasted a century or two longer and could have made major breakthroughs which would effect modern life.

I do too, I was just saying that the difference would make the world unrecognizable to us. and it would not. it was a corrupt, collapsing empire already and due to their hubris, nothing significant had been discovered for centuries. literally.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

I have a great deal of respect for Islam, and am a fan of Islamic culture, and thus I would not mind that. Plus the Western Roman Empire would have lasted a century or two longer and could have made major breakthroughs which would effect modern life.

I do too, I was just saying that the difference would make the world unrecognizable to us. and it would not. it was a corrupt, collapsing empire already and due to their hubris, nothing significant had been discovered for centuries. literally.

Who knows. The riches of Egypt would have filled the coffers of the Empire, and that wealth could be used to improve social conditions, and people would start paying taxes over time and social issues would decline.

[New Aksarben]

I do too, I was just saying that the difference would make the world unrecognizable to us. and it would not. it was a corrupt, collapsing empire already and due to their hubris, nothing significant had been discovered for centuries. literally.

Who knows. The riches of Egypt would have filled the coffers of the Empire, and that wealth could be used to improve social conditions, and people would start paying taxes over time and social issues would decline.

Not really. it was already on its death bed by this time. It was just a matter of time. and Egypt only grew tons of food. the wealth came from trade through Constantinople. If anything it would have made it worse when the empire finally fell.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Who knows. The riches of Egypt would have filled the coffers of the Empire, and that wealth could be used to improve social conditions, and people would start paying taxes over time and social issues would decline.

Not really. it was already on its death bed by this time. It was just a matter of time. and Egypt only grew tons of food. the wealth came from trade through Constantinople. If anything it would have made it worse when the empire finally fell.

Actually I saw a documentary that showed evidence that the Romans traded with the Indians. Plus Egypt produced gold and emeralds.

[Kishrael]

Can.. can I have eastern "Armenia"? :')

[New Aksarben]

Not really. it was already on its death bed by this time. It was just a matter of time. and Egypt only grew tons of food. the wealth came from trade through Constantinople. If anything it would have made it worse when the empire finally fell.

Actually I saw a documentary that showed evidence that the Romans traded with the Indians. Plus Egypt produced gold and emeralds.

yes. but it was limited trade and it was safer to go overland

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Actually I saw a documentary that showed evidence that the Romans traded with the Indians. Plus Egypt produced gold and emeralds.

yes. but it was limited trade and it was safer to go overland

If I am not mistaken, the total amount of wealth that came from that trade would be equal to 10 trillion modern dollars.

[Halleon]

Its kind hard to predict what if situations or the outcomes of what if situations.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Its kind hard to predict what if situations or the outcomes of what if situations.

Sometimes.

[Halleon]

Its kind hard to predict what if situations or the outcomes of what if situations.

Sometimes.

Most of the time it is because changing one small event could have drastic effects on history.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Sometimes.

Most of the time it is because changing one small event could have drastic effects on history.

Like the Romans losing the Punic Wars?

[Halleon]

Most of the time it is because changing one small event could have drastic effects on history.

Like the Romans losing the Punic Wars?

Imagine a senator pondering the death of Ceaser and he thinks to much on the issue then he chickens out ruining the assassination that killed the Dictator, Rome could have stayed a Republic and never became a Empire. The Punic Wars is a good example though.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Like the Romans losing the Punic Wars?

Imagine a senator pondering the death of Ceaser and he thinks to much on the issue then he chickens out ruining the assassination that killed the Dictator, Rome could have stayed a Republic and never became a Empire. The Punic Wars is a good example though.

Or perhaps if the Romans had never warred against the Goths?

[The Gaelic Kingdoms of Britain]

He means to have the population of say three provinces migrate but still have the population of the other few provinces stay.

I have not taken that into account, and sounds like taking advantage of the system. I'll think about it.

So, what's the consensus for the migration?

[Mort the Lemur]

Can.. can I have eastern "Armenia"? :')

Yes, yes you can. But you ain't getting the rest of it without a fight or a bribe.

[New Aksarben]

I just had an idea. maybe each province(regardless of owner) gets 500 defenders as a garrison. The administration only counts for standing army and those garrisons are just the inhabitants that have little military training but are more like a militia. It would not only make it fairer, but give a way to show temporary conscription of peasants to fight off enemies.


You could temporarily raise the garrison, at the cost of leaving provinces completely undefended, but you get another five hundred troops, at least for a while.


Good idea? or not?

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

I just had an idea. maybe each province(regardless of owner) gets 500 defenders as a garrison. The administration only counts for standing army and those garrisons are just the inhabitants that have little military training but are more like a militia. It would not only make it fairer, but give a way to show temporary conscription of peasants to fight off enemies.


You could temporarily raise the garrison, at the cost of leaving provinces completely undefended, but you get another five hundred troops, at least for a while.


Good idea? or not?

I think it is a good idea.

[New Aksarben]

I just had an idea. maybe each province(regardless of owner) gets 500 defenders as a garrison. The administration only counts for standing army and those garrisons are just the inhabitants that have little military training but are more like a militia. It would not only make it fairer, but give a way to show temporary conscription of peasants to fight off enemies.


You could temporarily raise the garrison, at the cost of leaving provinces completely undefended, but you get another five hundred troops, at least for a while.


Good idea? or not?

I think it is a good idea.

It would also allow you to raise temporary defensive troops in invaded territories. but they would not have good morale, and are likely to break formation and not listen to orders. also likely to run away when fighting superior troops/numbers. like actual militia. not well trained and usually farmers/tradesmen that are forced to fight.

not professional armies.

[Transoxthraxia]

Alright, my posts are coming up.