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Postby Videssos » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:37 am

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Felbah wrote:I have put forward what I believe to be a well structured and sound argument as to why 2,000 soldiers is not Godmodding.
In the Rohirrim army, I have heard, the military is divided up into éoreds. These consist of 2,000 men. Now consider this next to modern statistics. I am a general. I should have at least three under my control (r that of those under me,) so me saying that I can tell 2,000 soldiers to leave to Edoras is not Godmodding at all. Also, I said that the scouting force which Theoden sent out earlier was commanded by me personally, so that is around 500 men. Having 2,500 men is not overkill! I would suppose that the Nazgul have more than that on a regular basis, heck, even Theoden himself ordered orcs ad was given around 2,500. So I would like it greatly if the charges were removed and I were allowed to have my, to put it plainly, meagre army instead of having a small band of soldiers around a quarter of an éored large.

No because you are not the ruler of Rohan so unless you hire mercs or bandits or something I control how many soldiers you are allowed to have. AS I"M THE RULER OF ROHAN AND THIS IS MY ARMY. I will allow to have no more than 400 until this resolved with the OP as I stated all but 500 men into Helms Deep. Its a god mode because you cannot forces FROM THE KING OF ROHAN without me giving them to you willing. SO I will not drop the charges.


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Postby Felbah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:00 pm

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Felbah wrote:I have put forward what I believe to be a well structured and sound argument as to why 2,000 soldiers is not Godmodding.
In the Rohirrim army, I have heard, the military is divided up into éoreds. These consist of 2,000 men. Now consider this next to modern statistics. I am a general. I should have at least three under my control (r that of those under me,) so me saying that I can tell 2,000 soldiers to leave to Edoras is not Godmodding at all. Also, I said that the scouting force which Theoden sent out earlier was commanded by me personally, so that is around 500 men. Having 2,500 men is not overkill! I would suppose that the Nazgul have more than that on a regular basis, heck, even Theoden himself ordered orcs ad was given around 2,500. So I would like it greatly if the charges were removed and I were allowed to have my, to put it plainly, meagre army instead of having a small band of soldiers around a quarter of an éored large.

No because you are not the ruler of Rohan so unless you hire mercs or bandits or something I control how many soldiers you are allowed to have. AS I"M THE RULER OF ROHAN AND THIS IS MY ARMY. I will allow to have no more than 400 until this resolved with the OP as I stated all but 500 men into Helms Deep. Its a god mode because you cannot forces FROM THE KING OF ROHAN without me giving them to you willing. SO I will not drop the charges.

You have possibly 8 Éoreds, so you could at least give me one. I seriously don't understand it.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:06 pm

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Valentir wrote:No because you are not the ruler of Rohan so unless you hire mercs or bandits or something I control how many soldiers you are allowed to have. AS I"M THE RULER OF ROHAN AND THIS IS MY ARMY. I will allow to have no more than 400 until this resolved with the OP as I stated all but 500 men into Helms Deep. Its a god mode because you cannot forces FROM THE KING OF ROHAN without me giving them to you willing. SO I will not drop the charges.

You have possibly 8 Éoreds, so you could at least give me one. I seriously don't understand it.

No, I will give you what I want to give you. You could have asked me for 2000 men but you just take them from me instead like its all ok. So no. The charges will not be dropped and you will only have as many men as I give, which is 400. I control where my soldiers go, why? BECAUSE I"M THE KING OF ROHAN AND YOU AREN"T

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:08 pm

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Felbah wrote:You have possibly 8 Éoreds, so you could at least give me one. I seriously don't understand it.

No, I will give you what I want to give you. You could have asked me for 2000 men but you just take them from me instead like its all ok. So no. The charges will not be dropped and you will only have as many men as I give, which is 400. I control where my soldiers go, why? BECAUSE I"M THE KING OF ROHAN AND YOU AREN"T

OK, we've been arguing over this for at least two pages. Please shut up about it and sick the nazgul on him.
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Postby Grandsubrit » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:08 pm

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Felbah wrote:You have possibly 8 Éoreds, so you could at least give me one. I seriously don't understand it.

No, I will give you what I want to give you. You could have asked me for 2000 men but you just take them from me instead like its all ok. So no. The charges will not be dropped and you will only have as many men as I give, which is 400. I control where my soldiers go, why? BECAUSE I"M THE KING OF ROHAN AND YOU AREN"T


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Postby Pavlostani » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:08 pm

Valentir wrote:
Felbah wrote:You have possibly 8 Éoreds, so you could at least give me one. I seriously don't understand it.

No, I will give you what I want to give you. You could have asked me for 2000 men but you just take them from me instead like its all ok. So no. The charges will not be dropped and you will only have as many men as I give, which is 400. I control where my soldiers go, why? BECAUSE I"M THE KING OF ROHAN AND YOU AREN"T

Ahem. I'm the leader of Fangorn Forest, something neither of you claim. When you come to me one day, requesting badass tree warriors, you only get as many as I give you. I SHALL BE ALL-POWERFUL! MWAHAHA! :twisted:
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Postby Valentir » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:12 pm

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Valentir wrote:No, I will give you what I want to give you. You could have asked me for 2000 men but you just take them from me instead like its all ok. So no. The charges will not be dropped and you will only have as many men as I give, which is 400. I control where my soldiers go, why? BECAUSE I"M THE KING OF ROHAN AND YOU AREN"T

Ahem. I'm the leader of Fangorn Forest, something neither of you claim. When you come to me one day, requesting badass tree warriors, you only get as many as I give you. I SHALL BE ALL-POWERFUL! MWAHAHA! :twisted:

Thats how its supposed to be. And I'm 6'5!! HOW CAN HAVE NAPOLEON SYNDROME. Its annoying because he thinks he can take my men. WHEN HE CANNOT. He wanted to control an army he should have signed up as a Ruler. Or been the general in another nation.

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Your post reminded me of something, does anyone play GoW, well can you imagine, a Kantus Nazgul, most annoying screech ever.
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Pragia wrote:Can I be added to list of accepted? Ima post soon, if anyone want to interact?

You are?
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Postby Felbah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:37 pm

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:38 pm

Felbah wrote:It seems as if you don't need me. Gentlemen, I bid thee adeiu.

You are?
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Postby Liberated Counties » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:42 pm

Felbah wrote:I have put forward what I believe to be a well structured and sound argument as to why 2,000 soldiers is not Godmodding.
In the Rohirrim army, I have heard, the military is divided up into éoreds. These consist of 2,000 men. Now consider this next to modern statistics. I am a general. I should have at least three under my control (r that of those under me,) so me saying that I can tell 2,000 soldiers to leave to Edoras is not Godmodding at all. Also, I said that the scouting force which Theoden sent out earlier was commanded by me personally, so that is around 500 men. Having 2,500 men is not overkill! I would suppose that the Nazgul have more than that on a regular basis, heck, even Theoden himself ordered orcs ad was given around 2,500. So I would like it greatly if the charges were removed and I were allowed to have my, to put it plainly, meagre army instead of having a small band of soldiers around a quarter of an éored large.


Okay so this argument is old. But A single Eored is 120 riders, not 2000.
Sorry Felbah, I'm not argueing gainst you I just didn't want you to be misinformed.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:43 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Felbah wrote:It seems as if you don't need me. Gentlemen, I bid thee adeiu.

You are?

He is supposed to be a general in Rohan but he keeps taking my men like he is king and thinks that he can take whatever he wants without my permission. I'm the King of Rohan so I called out Godmode and he still kept trying to take my men without asking and when the OP told him he couldn't. SO I RAGED!!!! Because that is a clear God Mode. And Liberated if Felbah leaves take control of his men. I give you Permission as KING OF ROHAN

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:45 pm

Valentir wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You are?

He is supposed to be a general in Rohan but he keeps taking my men like he is king and thinks that he can take whatever he wants without my permission. I'm the King of Rohan so I called out Godmode and he still kept trying to take my men without asking and when the OP told him he couldn't. SO I RAGED!!!! Because that is a clear God Mode. And Liberated if Felbah leaves take control of his men. I give you Permission as KING OF ROHAN

T_T Either way, you've left a bad impression on me.
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Postby Felbah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:46 pm

Liberated Counties wrote:
Felbah wrote:I have put forward what I believe to be a well structured and sound argument as to why 2,000 soldiers is not Godmodding.
In the Rohirrim army, I have heard, the military is divided up into éoreds. These consist of 2,000 men. Now consider this next to modern statistics. I am a general. I should have at least three under my control (r that of those under me,) so me saying that I can tell 2,000 soldiers to leave to Edoras is not Godmodding at all. Also, I said that the scouting force which Theoden sent out earlier was commanded by me personally, so that is around 500 men. Having 2,500 men is not overkill! I would suppose that the Nazgul have more than that on a regular basis, heck, even Theoden himself ordered orcs ad was given around 2,500. So I would like it greatly if the charges were removed and I were allowed to have my, to put it plainly, meagre army instead of having a small band of soldiers around a quarter of an éored large.


Okay so this argument is old. But A single Eored is 120 riders, not 2000.
Sorry Felbah, I'm not argueing gainst you I just didn't want you to be misinformed.

According to Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but the only source I could find) said that an Éoreds could reach 2,000 men.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:48 pm

Felbah wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:
Okay so this argument is old. But A single Eored is 120 riders, not 2000.
Sorry Felbah, I'm not argueing gainst you I just didn't want you to be misinformed.

According to Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but the only source I could find) said that an Éoreds could reach 2,000 men.

Key word: Could reach.
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Postby Valentir » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:48 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valentir wrote:He is supposed to be a general in Rohan but he keeps taking my men like he is king and thinks that he can take whatever he wants without my permission. I'm the King of Rohan so I called out Godmode and he still kept trying to take my men without asking and when the OP told him he couldn't. SO I RAGED!!!! Because that is a clear God Mode. And Liberated if Felbah leaves take control of his men. I give you Permission as KING OF ROHAN

T_T Either way, you've left a bad impression on me.

Who do you RP? And I really do not care of your personal opinion on me. We are on the internet so I really don't care. Now of we knew each other in real I would care but we don't. And Felbah thats a EOHRE and thats for a FULL muster of Rohan. And my problem is that you cannot take men from the King that I RPED with out my permission. Please stay but only RP as many men as I give you.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:51 pm

Valentir wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:T_T Either way, you've left a bad impression on me.

Who do you RP? And I really do not care of your personal opinion on me. We are on the internet so I really don't care. Now of we knew each other in real I would care but we don't. And Felbah thats a EOHRE and thats for a FULL muster of Rohan. And my problem is that you cannot take men from the King that I RPED with out my permission. Please stay but only RP as many men as I give you.

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Postby Felbah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:51 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Felbah wrote:According to Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but the only source I could find) said that an Éoreds could reach 2,000 men.

Key word: Could reach.

I understand that, but surely a general would have one of these larger Éoreds instead of a meagre 400 men.

And also, Valentir, I mean Éored, not eohre. One has up to 2,000 men and the other as you rightly said consists of the whole muster of Rohan. In fact, search up the word. Éores is the old English word for cavalry troop.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:52 pm

Felbah wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Key word: Could reach.

I understand that, but surely a general would have one of these larger Éoreds instead of a meagre 400 men.

And also, Valentir, I mean Éored, not eohre. One has up to 2,000 men and the other as you rightly said consists of the whole muster of Rohan. In fact, search up the word. Éores is the old English word for cavalry troop.

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Postby Valentir » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:53 pm

Felbah wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Key word: Could reach.

I understand that, but surely a general would have one of these larger Éoreds instead of a meagre 400 men.

And also, Valentir, I mean Éored, not eohre. One has up to 2,000 men and the other as you rightly said consists of the whole muster of Rohan. In fact, search up the word. Éores is the old English word for cavalry troop.

Ok the Eohre thing is fine. But on the general thing I'm the King. And Kings order Generals. There fore unless I give you command of men you cannot RP more than I give. Now I want you stay but please RP as many as I give. You are currently scouting so you have no need for 2000 men. I'm sorry but I got really mad. So just RP 400 until I give you more. Thanks

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Postby Liberated Counties » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:54 pm

Felbah wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:
Okay so this argument is old. But A single Eored is 120 riders, not 2000.
Sorry Felbah, I'm not argueing gainst you I just didn't want you to be misinformed.

According to Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but the only source I could find) said that an Éoreds could reach 2,000 men.


Maybe you're right, an Éored is on average 120 riders but probably during war-time an Eored can expand to get much larger. An Éoherë is one hundred Éoreds,

It's all the rulers choice though, he is king after all.
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Postby Felbah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:56 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Felbah wrote:I understand that, but surely a general would have one of these larger Éoreds instead of a meagre 400 men.

And also, Valentir, I mean Éored, not eohre. One has up to 2,000 men and the other as you rightly said consists of the whole muster of Rohan. In fact, search up the word. Éores is the old English word for cavalry troop.

Coming, coming, came. He's back. Problem solved.

And gone again. I have lost interest in it, and Valentir has made it insanely boring.

And also, Valentir, I understand your idea, but I was sending 2,000 men with my captain over to some god-forsaken part of the country while I was scouting with the 400. I was not wanting 2,000 men for a scouting mission, just as a backup in case you were being controlled by Sauron again.
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The Strebo Albaie invasion of Sarave (Felbahn Victory)
The war against New Hayesalia (New Hayesalian Victory)
The Felbahn war of Succession (Chazicarian victory) *
Felbahn Rebellion (Peace agreement reached) *
A Red Death (Peace agreement reached)
Felbahn War of Reconquest (Felbahn Victory)
The War Against the Fascist Soviet Empire (Peace agreement reached)
Felbah-Karthegian War (Out of date)

* = All part of the Felbahn war of succession.


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