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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:53 am

Olthar wrote:

If dinosaurs are reptiles, then birds are reptiles.

By that logic, we're all bacteria.
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Postby Olthar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:58 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I love the humour in the fact that as I am ranting about crazy animals here, a flying fox slams into my window.

Daawww! Those things are adorable! :3
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:58 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:TV Tropes on Australia

"The plants can also kill you. The Stinging Tree is aptly named; all shrubs and trees of this genus have very fine hairs which will end up in your body if you walk too close (also, said hairs SHED, so too close is probably within a 5km radius). These stingers are poisonous, and they have been known to kill horses, dogs and, yes, people. With great efficiency. Even if it doesn't kill you, the hairs - and subsequently the pain, because its the Stinging Tree for a reason, tends to last several years; the hairs are too fine to remove, and they don't break down in your body."

Australia is a lie.

Wait, they actually have poisonous trees? All these years of saying that and I thought I was just making that up...
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Postby Olthar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:58 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:If dinosaurs are reptiles, then birds are reptiles.

By that logic, we're all bacteria.

Not at all. We didn't evolve from bacteria.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:59 am

AETEN II wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I love the humour in the fact that as I am ranting about crazy animals here, a flying fox slams into my window.

LOL.

You should capture it. Secretly. Because how awesome would it be to keep one as a pet?

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Postby Astrolinium » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:59 am

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Nationstatelandsville wrote:By that logic, we're all bacteria.

Not at all. We didn't evolve from bacteria.


You know perfectly well what he meant.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:59 am

I juet realized there's no possible way for PCs to survive on their own in my RP.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:00 am

Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:By that logic, we're all bacteria.

Not at all. We didn't evolve from bacteria.

Well, the first cell would have been similar to a modern bacteria.

I can't go "By that logic, we're all cells", because... well, yeah, we are.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:01 am

Mavorpen wrote:I juet realized there's no possible way for PCs to survive on their own in my RP.

There's a great deal of humor in you running in an RP.

In that you'll actually be posting. :p
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Postby Olthar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:05 am

Astrolinium wrote:
Olthar wrote:Not at all. We didn't evolve from bacteria.


You know perfectly well what he meant.

If his point is that we're all still the stuff we evolved from, then yes. That is perfectly accurate. While calling us all fish is technically inaccurate as "fish" isn't a scientific term with a static definition, we are all still chordates, and that's close enough. It's impossible for something to ever stop being what it is.

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:Not at all. We didn't evolve from bacteria.

Well, the first cell would have been similar to a modern bacteria.

Actually, not really. There are many differences between the original single-cellular lifeforms and bacteria. After all, bacteria have been around for billions of years, and they've been evolving, too. In fact, they've been evolving much faster than us because of their rapidly shorter generations.

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I can't go "By that logic, we're all cells", because... well, yeah, we are.

Indeed we are.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:06 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I juet realized there's no possible way for PCs to survive on their own in my RP.

There's a great deal of humor in you running in an RP.

In that you'll actually be posting. :p

*shrug* I actually think I'll be doing less than what Night currently does. They'll choose where they go and I'll drop in plot points and enemies who will kick their asses here and there. Because I hate people. :P
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:06 am

Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Well, the first cell would have been similar to a modern bacteria.

Actually, not really. There are many differences between the original single-cellular lifeforms and bacteria. After all, bacteria have been around for billions of years, and they've been evolving, too. In fact, they've been evolving much faster than us because of their rapidly shorter generations.

Hence why I said "similar", not "exactly identical".

Bacteria change, but they still more closely resemble a cell than anything else.
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby AETEN II » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:08 am

Olthar wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
You know perfectly well what he meant.

If his point is that we're all still the stuff we evolved from, then yes. That is perfectly accurate. While calling us all fish is technically inaccurate as "fish" isn't a scientific term with a static definition, we are all still chordates, and that's close enough. It's impossible for something to ever stop being what it is.

Nationstatelandsville wrote:Well, the first cell would have been similar to a modern bacteria.

Actually, not really. There are many differences between the original single-cellular lifeforms and bacteria. After all, bacteria have been around for billions of years, and they've been evolving, too. In fact, they've been evolving much faster than us because of their rapidly shorter generations.

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I can't go "By that logic, we're all cells", because... well, yeah, we are.

Indeed we are.


Point being though, that for all intensive purposes, Aves is no different than theropods, save slightly different skeletons. But really, they need to be reclassified, or possibly shuffle dinosaurs into their own Class, because the system for dinosaurs is old, and they were classified before we got a real good understanding of them. Like how, theropods were insanely advanced Archosaurs that were most likely warm-blooded.
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Postby Olthar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:09 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:
Actually, not really. There are many differences between the original single-cellular lifeforms and bacteria. After all, bacteria have been around for billions of years, and they've been evolving, too. In fact, they've been evolving much faster than us because of their rapidly shorter generations.

Hence why I said "similar", not "exactly identical".

Bacteria change, but they still more closely resemble a cell than anything else.

Bacteria are prokaryotes while our cells are all eukaryotes. They're more fundamentally different than us than virtually any other form of life.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:11 am

Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Hence why I said "similar", not "exactly identical".

Bacteria change, but they still more closely resemble a cell than anything else.

Bacteria are prokaryotes while our cells are all eukaryotes. They're more fundamentally different than us than virtually any other form of life.

They're of comparable size and functionality.

The point is - you're looking way, way, way too far into this metaphor.
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Postby Olthar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:11 am

AETEN II wrote:
Olthar wrote:If his point is that we're all still the stuff we evolved from, then yes. That is perfectly accurate. While calling us all fish is technically inaccurate as "fish" isn't a scientific term with a static definition, we are all still chordates, and that's close enough. It's impossible for something to ever stop being what it is.


Actually, not really. There are many differences between the original single-cellular lifeforms and bacteria. After all, bacteria have been around for billions of years, and they've been evolving, too. In fact, they've been evolving much faster than us because of their rapidly shorter generations.


Indeed we are.


Point being though, that for all intensive purposes, Aves is no different than theropods, save slightly different skeletons. But really, they need to be reclassified, or possibly shuffle dinosaurs into their own Class, because the system for dinosaurs is old, and they were classified before we got a real good understanding of them. Like how, theropods were insanely advanced Archosaurs that were most likely warm-blooded.

The entire Linnaean taxonomic system needs to be thrown out. It is massively out of date, so much so that it now actively contradicts evolutionary biology.
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Postby Olthar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:13 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:Bacteria are prokaryotes while our cells are all eukaryotes. They're more fundamentally different than us than virtually any other form of life.

They're of comparable size and functionality.

Actually, bacteria are significantly smaller than cells. :p

Nationstatelandsville wrote:The point is - you're looking way, way, way too far into this metaphor.

*Shrug*
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:14 am

So, Nat, let's start to move this along. Edit your post and such.
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Postby Seshephe » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:14 am

Olthar wrote:
AETEN II wrote:
Point being though, that for all intensive purposes, Aves is no different than theropods, save slightly different skeletons. But really, they need to be reclassified, or possibly shuffle dinosaurs into their own Class, because the system for dinosaurs is old, and they were classified before we got a real good understanding of them. Like how, theropods were insanely advanced Archosaurs that were most likely warm-blooded.

The entire Linnaean taxonomic system needs to be thrown out. It is massively out of date, so much so that it now actively contradicts evolutionary biology.


That's not really true, the Linean system is continuously modified to account for DNA evidence.


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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:14 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So, Nat, let's start to move this along. Edit your post and such.

I'm going to have Megan pop in later.

They aren't in Ivy's room, are they?
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Postby Seshephe » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:15 am

Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:They're of comparable size and functionality.

Actually, bacteria are significantly smaller than cells. :p


Except the ons that are much bigger. Bacteria are a diverse form of life...


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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:15 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So, Nat, let's start to move this along. Edit your post and such.

I'm going to have Megan pop in later.

They aren't in Ivy's room, are they?

Not yet. Richard is, though, because he's creepy.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:15 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I'm going to have Megan pop in later.

They aren't in Ivy's room, are they?

Not yet. Richard is, though, because he's creepy.

"Richard, why are you-"

"Watching the baby."

"It's dead."

"Which is why I'm watching it. Zombies."
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From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby AETEN II » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:16 am

Olthar wrote:
AETEN II wrote:
Point being though, that for all intensive purposes, Aves is no different than theropods, save slightly different skeletons. But really, they need to be reclassified, or possibly shuffle dinosaurs into their own Class, because the system for dinosaurs is old, and they were classified before we got a real good understanding of them. Like how, theropods were insanely advanced Archosaurs that were most likely warm-blooded.

The entire Linnaean taxonomic system needs to be thrown out. It is massively out of date, so much so that it now actively contradicts evolutionary biology.

Yeah, pretty much. We've now learned that what we call 'species' is simply when evolution slows down to a much, much slower crawl, a static snap-shot before it speeds up again to counter environment factors that are threatening the organism and it's group. Not to mention that we can better classify everything by use of genetic sequencing.

And Sesh, are entire understanding of life has changed, and the classification of dinosaurs is one of the strangest, most fucked up things that provides the best evidence of why we need a better system.
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Postby Seshephe » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:18 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:
Actually, not really. There are many differences between the original single-cellular lifeforms and bacteria. After all, bacteria have been around for billions of years, and they've been evolving, too. In fact, they've been evolving much faster than us because of their rapidly shorter generations.

Hence why I said "similar", not "exactly identical".

Bacteria change, but they still more closely resemble a cell than anything else.

There are single celled Eukaryotes as well as a whole other kingdom of single celled organisms called Archaea.


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