Elfen High 2 (OOC 5, Closed)

[Nationstatelandsville]

I can explain that, actually.

See, insults are based on what society values. And for the last couple thousand years or so, society has valued physical strength and power, because, really, until recently, strength was really damn important and that decided a lot of things. Men, biologically, are stronger than woman (and no this isn't a fucking stereotype or a generalization and yes I know there are exceptions) and because our culture places value on strength, being seen as touchy-feely or sensitive or not society's ideal of "manly" is seen as "weak", hence why "being female" is an insult. In fact, if you look at a lot of insults, it shows - "pussy", "cunt", "bitch" and etcetera.

Society is gradually leaving this, though, because being strong isn't quite as useful as it used to be. So yeah, there you go.

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

I'm sorry, but "pussy" and "bitch" are too perfect as insults to ever let go.

You'll pry them from my cold, dead hands.

[Zarkenis Ultima]

I can explain that, actually.

See, insults are based on what society values. And for the last couple thousand years or so, society has valued physical strength and power, because, really, until recently, strength was really damn important and that decided a lot of things. Men, biologically, are stronger than woman (and no this isn't a fucking stereotype or a generalization and yes I know there are exceptions) and because our culture places value on strength, being seen as touchy-feely or sensitive or not society's ideal of "manly" is seen as "weak", hence why "being female" is an insult. In fact, if you look at a lot of insults, it shows - "pussy", "cunt", "bitch" and etcetera.

Society is gradually leaving this, though, because being strong isn't quite as useful as it used to be. So yeah, there you go.

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Because society willed it thus at some point down the road, because society is stupid like that. -Nods-

@Con: Holy fucking shit.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Society likes bland, tasteless, dry gender rolls that have been separated into neat little piles.

Well, it was essential for survival at one point and now it's part of the public conscience.

[Astrolinium]

Society likes bland, tasteless, dry gender rolls that have been separated into neat little piles.

Well, it was essential for survival at one point and now it's part of the public conscience.

The point being that, if society ever invites you over for dinner, do not go.

[Individuality-ness]

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Society likes bland, tasteless, dry gender rolls that have been separated into neat little piles.

So gender roles are like stale bread that you could get at the Dollar Tree? Ew.

Because society willed it thus at some point down the road, because society is stupid like that. -Nods-

Of course society's idiotic sometimes.

I'm sorry, but "pussy" and "bitch" are too perfect as insults to ever let go.

You'll pry them from my cold, dead hands.

I've been called a bitch before. I intend to wear that with pride.

[Constaniana]

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Because society willed it thus at some point down the road, because society is stupid like that. -Nods-

@Con: Holy fucking shit.

Oh, and in the last book Tesla comes up with a plan to end the Great War, by building a lightning superweapon capable of blowing up every major European city as a deterrent, because Tesla is a serious chap.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Well, it was essential for survival at one point and now it's part of the public conscience.

The point being that, if society ever invites you over for dinner, do not go.

Are you just shitting words right now? Because that made no fucking sense, even on a metaphorical level.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Because society willed it thus at some point down the road, because society is stupid like that. -Nods-

@Con: Holy fucking shit.

Oh, and in the last book Tesla comes up with a plan to end the Great War, by building a lightning superweapon capable of blowing up every major European city as a deterrent, because Tesla is a serious chap.

Tesla's not a "chap".

He's a Serbian-American. One of ours, thank you very much.

[Olthar]

Well, it was essential for survival at one point ...

Not really, no. Cavemen could have done fine with stay at home dads and women hunters.

[Ende]

I can explain that, actually.

See, insults are based on what society values. And for the last couple thousand years or so, society has valued physical strength and power, because, really, until recently, strength was really damn important and that decided a lot of things. Men, biologically, are stronger than woman (and no this isn't a fucking stereotype or a generalization and yes I know there are exceptions) and because our culture places value on strength, being seen as touchy-feely or sensitive or not society's ideal of "manly" is seen as "weak", hence why "being female" is an insult. In fact, if you look at a lot of insults, it shows - "pussy", "cunt", "bitch" and etcetera.

Society is gradually leaving this, though, because being strong isn't quite as useful as it used to be. So yeah, there you go.

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate. Really, if you switched those up back when humans were still working on the whole "survival" thing, we'd probably have died out.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

[Zarkenis Ultima]

Society likes bland, tasteless, dry gender rolls that have been separated into neat little piles.

So gender roles are like stale bread that you could get at the Dollar Tree? Ew.

Because society willed it thus at some point down the road, because society is stupid like that. -Nods-

Of course society's idiotic sometimes.

I'm sorry, but "pussy" and "bitch" are too perfect as insults to ever let go.

You'll pry them from my cold, dead hands.

I've been called a bitch before. I intend to wear that with pride.

Yup. It is.

With that cleared up, I'll just go back to... Doing nothing. >.>

@Con: ...
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Holy fucking shit.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Well, it was essential for survival at one point ...

Not really, not. Cavemen could have done fine with stay at home dads and women hunters.

Not really, no.

You need someone to get food. Men are more inclined to athletics, so you send them. The women do what's left.

If the man's doing the chores, well then he's just a lazy asshole and wasted potential, no? Fuck that guy, let's beat him with rocks so he doesn't mooch on our food.

[Zarkenis Ultima]

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

Herp derp society is stupid for keeping a trait that was useful and necessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigial. -Nods-

[Ende]

Well, it was essential for survival at one point ...

Not really, not. Cavemen could have done fine with stay at home dads and women hunters.

[Individuality-ness]

I wish it wasn't like that. I don't see how being too "feminine" for a male or being too "masculine" as a female compared to societal "standards" is an insult. But that's my feminism speaking.

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate. Really, if you switched those up back when humans were still working on the whole "survival" thing, we'd probably have died out.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

Sometimes I really dislike evolutionary psychology...

[Nationstatelandsville]

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

Herp derp society is stupid for keeping a trait that was useful and necessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigial. -Nods-

You can't get rid of society's traits any easier than you or I can suddenly lose an internal organ because we don't need it anymore.

It's evolution, dear Watson, and it takes time. But we always adapt.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate. Really, if you switched those up back when humans were still working on the whole "survival" thing, we'd probably have died out.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

Sometimes I really dislike evolutionary psychology...

Life is a bitter pill.

[Astrolinium]

The point being that, if society ever invites you over for dinner, do not go.

Are you just shitting words right now? Because that made no fucking sense, even on a metaphorical level.

It made sense in a ships-hanging-in-the-sky-much-like-bricks-don't sort of way.

[AETEN II]

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate. Really, if you switched those up back when humans were still working on the whole "survival" thing, we'd probably have died out.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

Sometimes I really dislike evolutionary psychology...

It's solid though, and largely true. The only subversion of this I know of in other species is with Lions.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Are you just shitting words right now? Because that made no fucking sense, even on a metaphorical level.

It made sense in a ships-hanging-in-the-sky-much-like-bricks-don't sort of way.

Right, except when Adams did bathos, it made sense in context.

[Ende]

Arguably, it was probably useful at some point. Men and women were better respectively suited to their roles, and roles probably would have created a more stable and functioning society when it was nescessary. If the difference between life and death was a few meals, and the men could bring said meals in while the women could not, you wouldn't want a woman running around with the hunters. Besides, biologically, men are basically incapable of taking care of infants because of the simple fact that we can't lactate.

So, really, it's not "herp derp society is stupid" it's more like "herp derp society is keeping a trait that was useful and nescessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigal".

Herp derp society is stupid for keeping a trait that was useful and necessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigial. -Nods-

I want you to regurgitate your appendix.

Go on. Try it.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Herp derp society is stupid for keeping a trait that was useful and necessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigial. -Nods-

I want you to regurgitate your appendix.

Go on. Try it.

Get me a baseball bat and hold him still for a bit.

[Ende]

I want you to regurgitate your appendix.

Go on. Try it.

Get me a baseball bat and hold him still for a bit.

You're ruining my metaphor.

Stop that.

[Zarkenis Ultima]

Herp derp society is stupid for keeping a trait that was useful and necessary for survival at one point but is now kind of vestigial. -Nods-

You can't get rid of society's traits any easier than you or I can suddenly lose an internal organ because we don't need it anymore.

It's evolution, dear Watson, and it takes time. But we always adapt.

You're taking a Mexican as your Watson?

Natural selection, kill this one. Go.

Besides, I know that. I'm just messing around and bullshitted an explanation that should in theory make both parties happy. .

But obviously does not. .

[Individuality-ness]

Sometimes I really dislike evolutionary psychology...

Life is a bitter pill.

As if I was unaware of that before.

Sometimes I really dislike evolutionary psychology...

It's solid though, and largely true. The only subversion of this I know of in other species is with Lions.

Angler fish are quite terrifying when it comes to mating. That and spiders.