Queen of Hearts and Knights of Steel: A WWII RP at Sea. OOC.

[Arthurista]

Name: Elliot Kinross
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Rank (you are advised to be a senior officer, commanding at least one ship): Rear Admiral
Vessel: HMS Hood (flagship)
Appearance (an image would suffice):
Nationality: British
Assigned role(s) (What is your character's intended role aboard ship?): CO, Third Battle Squadron
Height (optional):
Weight (optional):
Biography (optional, but still recommended. If not, please at least reveal some background information on your character as the RP progresses): Father served as a gunnery officer on board the HMS Queen Mary as part of Beatty's BC Squadron. KIA at Jutland. Elliot joined the RN and rose meteorically through the ranks. Has a reputation for tactical innovation but also a maverick. For ages he has been lobbying for the creation of a small, fast, combined-elements task force as a 'fire brigade', centred around battlecruisers and fast battleships. Unencumbered by the slower QEs and Rodneys it can hunt down the on average faster and modern German capital ships. Been given the battlecruiser squadron as a compromise.

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My concept is to take the two BCs, borrow a KGV Class to round it out as a full division, throw in a few CLs (preferably Didos or Atlantas to keep the Stukas off my ships) and DDs (preferably Tribals or Fletchers) for AA and ASW and go aggressively hunt for capital ships. Find, fix and engage so that the battle squadrons and the fleet carriers can home in and destroy.

[Jamessonia]

Why doesn't anyone want to be a nice Nazi? We don't bite. Unless your Jewish.

[Goram]

Name: Elliot Kinross
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Rank (you are advised to be a senior officer, commanding at least one ship): Rear Admiral
Vessel: HMS Hood (flagship)
Appearance (an image would suffice):
Nationality: British
Assigned role(s) (What is your character's intended role aboard ship?): CO, Third Battle Squadron
Height (optional):
Weight (optional):
Biography (optional, but still recommended. If not, please at least reveal some background information on your character as the RP progresses): Father served as a gunnery officer on board the HMS Queen Mary as part of Beatty's BC Squadron. KIA at Jutland. Elliot joined the RN and rose meteorically through the ranks. Has a reputation for tactical innovation but also a maverick. For ages he has been lobbying for the creation of a small, fast, combined-elements task force as a 'fire brigade', centred around battlecruisers and fast battleships. Unencumbered by the slower QEs and Rodneys it can hunt down the on average faster and modern German capital ships. Been given the battlecruiser squadron as a compromise.

RP Samples (Optional if I know you):
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viewtopic.php?p=12544247#p12544247
viewtopic.php?p=12622909&sid=c9557b142f936c0b4b9bc06d29e9b7b2#p12622909


My concept is to take the two BCs, borrow a KGV Class to round it out as a full division, throw in a few CLs (preferably Didos or Atlantas to keep the Stukas off my ships) and DDs (preferably Tribals or Fletchers) for AA and ASW and go aggressively hunt for capital ships. Find, fix and engage so that the battle squadrons and the fleet carriers can home in and destroy.

Accepted. Thought that plan has already been put into action, by Len Hyet. You can join him, if you'd like and if he doesn't mind. Take Anson, she's the only KG5 without a captain at the moment. Didos are your only option as far as Cruisers go, we don't have any Atlantas here. We do have Towns in abundance, they had a decent AA compliment. You'll also be far enough out to sea so that you won't need to worry about Stukas. Destroyers are up to you, I didn't list them because I'd gotten sick of trawling the internet and books for ships.

[Len Hyet]

Name: Elliot Kinross
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Rank (you are advised to be a senior officer, commanding at least one ship): Rear Admiral
Vessel: HMS Hood (flagship)
Appearance (an image would suffice):
Nationality: British
Assigned role(s) (What is your character's intended role aboard ship?): CO, Third Battle Squadron
Height (optional):
Weight (optional):
Biography (optional, but still recommended. If not, please at least reveal some background information on your character as the RP progresses): Father served as a gunnery officer on board the HMS Queen Mary as part of Beatty's BC Squadron. KIA at Jutland. Elliot joined the RN and rose meteorically through the ranks. Has a reputation for tactical innovation but also a maverick. For ages he has been lobbying for the creation of a small, fast, combined-elements task force as a 'fire brigade', centred around battlecruisers and fast battleships. Unencumbered by the slower QEs and Rodneys it can hunt down the on average faster and modern German capital ships. Been given the battlecruiser squadron as a compromise.

RP Samples (Optional if I know you):
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viewtopic.php?p=12544247#p12544247
viewtopic.php?p=12622909&sid=c9557b142f936c0b4b9bc06d29e9b7b2#p12622909


My concept is to take the two BCs, borrow a KGV Class to round it out as a full division, throw in a few CLs (preferably Didos or Atlantas to keep the Stukas off my ships) and DDs (preferably Tribals or Fletchers) for AA and ASW and go aggressively hunt for capital ships. Find, fix and engage so that the battle squadrons and the fleet carriers can home in and destroy.

Accepted. Thought that plan has already been put into action, by Len Hyet. You can join him, if you'd like and if he doesn't mind.

Well I object to his being a Rear Admiral
And his bringing a second task force, which would defeat the purpose of having a small force to engage the Nazis
But if he bumps himself down to Captain and places himself under my Command there won't be an issue.

[Goram]

Accepted. Thought that plan has already been put into action, by Len Hyet. You can join him, if you'd like and if he doesn't mind.

Well I object to his being a Rear Admiral
And his bringing a second task force, which would defeat the purpose of having a small force to engage the Nazis
But if he bumps himself down to Captain and places himself under my Command there won't be an issue.

Did not notice the rank, good point.

You can sort it out amongst yourselves what the plan is.

[Len Hyet]

Well I object to his being a Rear Admiral
And his bringing a second task force, which would defeat the purpose of having a small force to engage the Nazis
But if he bumps himself down to Captain and places himself under my Command there won't be an issue.

Did not notice the rank, good point.

You can sort it out amongst yourselves what the plan is.

[Goram]

Did not notice the rank, good point.

You can sort it out amongst yourselves what the plan is.

Turns out he's right. Squadron's are commanded by flag officers, Vice or Rear Admirals. You may want to promote yourself, Len.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

looking over the list of ships, wasn't the duke of york lost near crete.

[Goram]

looking over the list of ships, wasn't the duke of york lost near crete.

Duke of York survived the war. HMS Barham might be the ship your thinking of. She was torpedoed in the Med, might have been near Crete. She capsized and exploded, quite spectacularly.

[Len Hyet]

Turns out he's right. Squadron's are commanded by flag officers, Vice or Rear Admirals. You may want to promote yourself, Len.

Vice Admiral Silva at your service!

[Goram]

Turns out he's right. Squadron's are commanded by flag officers, Vice or Rear Admirals. You may want to promote yourself, Len.

Vice Admiral Silva at your service!

Nice to meet you Vice Admiral. I'll edit the IC posts.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

looking over the list of ships, wasn't the duke of york lost near crete.

Duke of York survived the war. HMS Barham might be the ship your thinking of. She was torpedoed in the Med, might have been near Crete. She capsized and exploded, quite spectacularly.

yeah I think a couple of my books have mislabeled pictures.

[Arthurista]

Did not notice the rank, good point.

You can sort it out amongst yourselves what the plan is.

Your squadron is going to work very well as bait. They're old fashioned dreadnought which are typically 5-10 knots slower than the fast and modern German ships. You lure them out, my flying squadron can ambush them.

I can promote myself to vice admiral. On the other hand, placing around 8 ships under a Rear Admiral shouldn't be a problem. Oldendorf commanded his squadron of six at the Surigao strait as an RA. RAs traditionally hold squadron-level command. Rear Admiral Horace Hood commanded the Third Battlecruiser Squadron, with a force mix similar to the one I proposed, at Jutland.

[Goram]

Your squadron isn't going to work very well as bait. They're old fashioned dreadnought, you need speed for this. I have BCs and fast battleships.

I can promote myself to vice admiral. On the other hand, placing around 8 ships under a Rear Admiral shouldn't be a problem. Oldendorf commanded his squadron of six at the Surigao strait as an RA. RAs traditionally hold squadron-level command. Rear Admiral Horace Hood commanded the Third Battlecruiser Squadron, with a force mix similar to the one I proposed, at Jutland.

What if Len was to create a second character, leaving Silva in command of the Battleships in the Line. The second character could still go with you, in command of the American Cruiser squadron?

The issue is though, it's already in the IC. Could be cut, I suppose, but it would take a lot of editting to rewrite it all.

[The Keystone Federation]

Should I feel obligated to butt into any of this IC battle-tactic conversation or am I just here to listen and look good? Lol

[Goram]

Should I feel obligated to butt into any of this battle-tactic conversation or am I just hear to listen and look good? Lol

Welcome to join in, if you want.

[The Keystone Federation]

Should I feel obligated to butt into any of this battle-tactic conversation or am I just hear to listen and look good? Lol

Welcome to join in, if you want.

Edited it as you posted this, I meant ICly

[Arthurista]

Your squadron isn't going to work very well as bait. They're old fashioned dreadnought, you need speed for this. I have BCs and fast battleships.

I can promote myself to vice admiral. On the other hand, placing around 8 ships under a Rear Admiral shouldn't be a problem. Oldendorf commanded his squadron of six at the Surigao strait as an RA. RAs traditionally hold squadron-level command. Rear Admiral Horace Hood commanded the Third Battlecruiser Squadron, with a force mix similar to the one I proposed, at Jutland.

What if Len was to create a second character, leaving Silva in command of the Battleships in the Line. The second character could still go with you, in command of the American Cruiser squadron?

The issue is though, it's already in the IC. Could be cut, I suppose, but it would take a lot of editting to rewrite it all.

Actually, it's ok. The bait doesn't need to be fast. It's dangerous though - modern capital ships in the German ORBAT are 5-10 knots faster than the old-fashioned dreadnoughts in his force. He lures them out, I ambush them. I agree on the cruisers - I'll need screening elements anyway.

Gotta ask - what's the state of radar tech in this timeline? IRL that was the single most advantage the allies had in almost every major surface engagement, esp in poor weather or at night.

Proposed ORBAT for the BC Squadron:

HMS Hood (flagship)
HMS Renown
HMS Anson or another KGV

2 x Dido Class CLs
4 x Tribal Class DDs

I'll work in conjunction with a squadron of American cruisers.

[Goram]

Welcome to join in, if you want.

Edited it as you posted this, I meant ICly

Oh right, don't post anything right now. We're trying sorting what's going on. Once we've sorted it, feel free.

[The Keystone Federation]

Edited it as you posted this, I meant ICly

Oh right, don't post anything right now. We're trying sorting what's going on. Once we've sorted it, feel free.

Alright sounds good.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Your squadron isn't going to work very well as bait. They're old fashioned dreadnought, you need speed for this. I have BCs and fast battleships.

I can promote myself to vice admiral. On the other hand, placing around 8 ships under a Rear Admiral shouldn't be a problem. Oldendorf commanded his squadron of six at the Surigao strait as an RA. RAs traditionally hold squadron-level command. Rear Admiral Horace Hood commanded the Third Battlecruiser Squadron, with a force mix similar to the one I proposed, at Jutland.

What if Len was to create a second character, leaving Silva in command of the Battleships in the Line. The second character could still go with you, in command of the American Cruiser squadron?

The issue is though, it's already in the IC. Could be cut, I suppose, but it would take a lot of editting to rewrite it all.

just use my destroyers as bait, we can out run the jerries.

[Goram]

What if Len was to create a second character, leaving Silva in command of the Battleships in the Line. The second character could still go with you, in command of the American Cruiser squadron?

The issue is though, it's already in the IC. Could be cut, I suppose, but it would take a lot of editting to rewrite it all.

Actually, it's ok. The bait doesn't need to be fast. It's dangerous though - modern capital ships in the German ORBAT are 5-10 knots faster than the old-fashioned dreadnoughts in his force. He lures them out, I ambush them. I agree on the cruisers - I'll need screening elements anyway.

Gotta ask - what's the state of radar tech in this timeline? IRL that was the single most advantage the allies had in almost every major surface engagement, esp in poor weather or at night.

Proposed ORBAT for the BC Squadron:

HMS Hood (flagship)
HMS Renown
HMS Anson or another KGV

2 x Dido Class CLs
4 x Tribal Class DDs

I'll work in conjunction with a squadron of American cruisers.

Tech is as it was.

I will TG you and Len the rest.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

also anyone have a problem with me using a few extra destroyers or do i need to make a new app for every captian

[Goram]

also anyone have a problem with me using a few extra destroyers or do i need to make a new app for every captian

You don't have to reapply for every Destroyer. Just introduce them in the IC as minor characters. Give it a moment though, whilst we sort everything out.

[Iander]

Too many allies!