Europa Universalis: New World (Alternate Earth: OOC/Open)

[Garwall]

A big issue right now with colonization is that there doesn't seem to be any incentive for any voyages outside of Europe in search of new territory. With such a fractured and hostile Europe, as well as a fractured Middle East, there would be no single power to monopolize the European portion of the Indian Ocean/Silk Road trade, so most naval efforts would probably be spent on maintaining dominance over either the Mediterranean-Middle East trade, or the North Sea/Hanseatic trade.

Venice and the Ottoman Empire had virtual dominance over every facet of Mediterranean trade, allowing them to charge outrageous prices, which gave incentive for explorers to find an alternate route to break the Venetian/Ottoman trade monopoly. There is no such incentive here. We have the Persians, Egyptians, Babylonians, and Turks fighting for control of the Indian Ocean/Silk Road trade, and several competing Merchant republics vying for Mediterranean dominance over trade, which would actually drive prices down. So unless one merchant republic absorbs all the others, or the Timurids descend from the Steppes and rebuild the Ilkhanate and tax the hell out of everything going west, Europeans have little economic incentive to explore beyond Europe.

Et true. Get on IRC though.

Can you link me to it?

[Bering]

Et true. Get on IRC though.

Can you link me to it?

I tged it to you yesterday

[Unicario]

Et true. Get on IRC though.

Can you link me to it?

Just get on Esper / #1800s.

[Novacom]

Are other people allowed to join the IRC, after all getting information first hand is always more useful than secondhand

[Unicario]

Are other people allowed to join the IRC, after all getting information first hand is always more useful than secondhand

Yes.

[United Federation of the World]

Could someone tell me the link to the map but clear. Like all areas are white. So I could use it for my own personal role-play.

[Kerblaekistan]

Could someone tell me the link to the map but clear. Like all areas are white. So I could use it for my own personal role-play.

Look up victoria II map

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Anything left?

[Bering]

Anything left?

the map on the first page has some NPCs check that out

[Horusland]

Anything left?

Any you could always be someone's colony.
No lands have been claimed in the Americas, and no colonies exist at all right now. We're just beginning to expand, so you could join in, too.
Though to be a colony, of course, you need another player to be your Old World governing nation.

[Ayreonia]

As for the 1492 versus 1500 debate, I made the OP that says 1492. The argument had went on for quite some time with no clear winner, so I settled on 1492 because I thought it'd be neat to start the new IC with rumors circulating about the New World, rather than it being common knowledge and players spamming settlements all across the East Coast.

And I will stand by my decision.

[Novacom]

To be Honest I think we should take the NPC's off of the map and leave maybe coloured borders to indicate where they were and have notes of an outline of the basics there, all of the colour to a lot of people at first glance is oh this is really developed I'm not sure if I could do something with what's left or if I'm interested in RPing what appears to be available. Not to mention I think we need to check if some of the people on there are still around as there hasn't been a word from some of the since being accepted.

[Felbah]

As for the 1492 versus 1500 debate, I made the OP that says 1492. The argument had went on for quite some time with no clear winner, so I settled on 1492 because I thought it'd be neat to start the new IC with rumors circulating about the New World, rather than it being common knowledge and players spamming settlements all across the East Coast.

And I will stand by my decision.

This.

[Novacom]

./ agree I think that things have been moving far too fast I like how some people are doing politicking and backblading while preparing to explore. I would have sensibly thought that the first landfall and major expeditions wouldnt be happening for years after all like Garwall has said theres no real incentive to be rushing across the atlantic and every incentive to stay in europe.

P.s. We still need to resolve time! :-P

[Ayreonia]

Hey Garwall.

Hey hey Gar.

So I decided to come up with some National Ideas for the 18th century:

Enlightened Rule -- Your Monarch embraces the ideas of the Enlightenment, such as humanist tolerance, inalienable rights of man and respect for empirical research. Improves his/her popularity with peasants, scientists and artisans, but strains his relations with the nobility and especially the clergy.
Thalassocracy -- Your nation lives to sail and sails to live. Allows for a truly diverse mix of naval vessels, from majestic men-of-war through smaller frigates and clippers to specialized ships such as bomb ketches and fireships. Maintaining your navy is now cheaper than before, since it is an inseparable part of your national identity.
Outre-mer Autonomy -- The colonies of your realm are vast and spanning, but remain difficult to rule. By granting them a certain amount of self-rule, you can greatly simplify the governance, sack immoral and corrupt viceroys and governors, and greatly diminish the chances of a revolt. True, you won't be able to milk them quite as dry as before, but it's preferable to a Tortuga Tobacco Party.
Batterie Volante -- Advances in artillery construction and tactics have made your gunners the true gods of death in your armies. Your batteries are mobile, accurate and deadly; no more dragging humongous bombards through fields of mud, only to have them break after the first few rounds!

Thoughts?

I need your opinion.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

I have just read Portugal's post, and while I suppose it is fine to have your ships reach Portugal in one month, remember, one month, as far as I am aware, was more of a minimum then a maximum. It could take much longer, like several months longer, especially in Hurricane season and winter in the north. So try not to have all your voyages be as quick as possible, it is bad.

Also, do remember that a lot of people died in between ships coming to and fro settlements of encampments.

They haven't arrived or did I say that? I'm counting on 2 and an half months.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

Anything left?

You could be my colony.

[Parhe]

As for the 1492 versus 1500 debate, I made the OP that says 1492. The argument had went on for quite some time with no clear winner, so I settled on 1492 because I thought it'd be neat to start the new IC with rumors circulating about the New World, rather than it being common knowledge and players spamming settlements all across the East Coast.

And I will stand by my decision.

But it is alternate history...I suggested just pushing back the doscovery of the Americas for the new National Ideas.

[Horusland]

As for the 1492 versus 1500 debate, I made the OP that says 1492. The argument had went on for quite some time with no clear winner, so I settled on 1492 because I thought it'd be neat to start the new IC with rumors circulating about the New World, rather than it being common knowledge and players spamming settlements all across the East Coast.

And I will stand by my decision.

But it is alternate history...I suggested just pushing back the doscovery of the Americas for the new National Ideas.

Yes, I agree.
There is a National Idea that says that if you don't have it, you can't go to the New World. But it's on the 16th Century Ideas, so that means no one can go to the Americas until 1500, OR, the idea has to be moved to an earlier time.
Or else it wouldn't make sense.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

Anyone in Europe interested in an alliance?

I am sort of interested, what will I gain from this alliance?

Has I said there's a mutual grantee. I would give land, ships or other thing being that you would give something back. Also help in war and free flow of products.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

But it is alternate history...I suggested just pushing back the doscovery of the Americas for the new National Ideas.

Yes, I agree.
There is a National Idea that says that if you don't have it, you can't go to the New World. But it's on the 16th Century Ideas, so that means no one can go to the Americas until 1500, OR, the idea has to be moved to an earlier time.
Or else it wouldn't make sense.

Why in the hell does this need to be so strict. No nation would wait till 1501 (yeah, because 1500 is still 15Th century) to depart to a new world full of gold and richness.

[Ayreonia]

But it is alternate history...I suggested just pushing back the doscovery of the Americas for the new National Ideas.

Yes, I agree.
There is a National Idea that says that if you don't have it, you can't go to the New World. But it's on the 16th Century Ideas, so that means no one can go to the Americas until 1500, OR, the idea has to be moved to an earlier time.
Or else it wouldn't make sense.

I fail to see the problem.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

Anyone in Europe interested in an alliance?

If you give me Galacia then we would have an good relationed alliance

I won't certainly give you Galicia if you don't compensate it I need to have some kind of advantage too.

[Horusland]

Yes, I agree.
There is a National Idea that says that if you don't have it, you can't go to the New World. But it's on the 16th Century Ideas, so that means no one can go to the Americas until 1500, OR, the idea has to be moved to an earlier time.
Or else it wouldn't make sense.

I fail to see the problem.

So, that idea is like a pass to the New World. You don't have it, you can't go.
But you can only get that idea in 1501.

[Ayreonia]

I fail to see the problem.

So, that idea is like a pass to the New World. You don't have it, you can't go.
But you can only get that idea in 1501.

No. It allows to explore and settle uncharted territory.