Europa Universalis: New World (Alternate Earth: OOC/Open)

[United States of Cascadia]

Hey Aye which Gibraltar strait nation are you allied to?

Anyone going after Gibraltar will have to deal with Venice. We like the status que there, unless of course the change there involves Venice getting in on the straight.

[Ayreonia]

Ok, good MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

He sent you letter saying he is going to attack me instead... I am taking gamble that Ayreonia and you haven't formed secret alliance.
Tell me you guys haven't.

Naaaaaaah.

That could be interesting, though.

Renaissance European political backstabbing, that's what I'm in this RP for!

[Great Nepal]

He sent you letter saying he is going to attack me instead... I am taking gamble that Ayreonia and you haven't formed secret alliance.
Tell me you guys haven't.

Naaaaaaah.

That could be interesting, though.

Renaissance European political backstabbing, that's what I'm in this RP for!

^Emperor and Prime minister if you backstab them with regards to Portugal.

[Parhe]

Lol talked to Beatus on IRC.
1) Muscovy is Prussia's largest ally
2) Muscovy has, or at least did not before the post, no intention of going eastward.

[Ayreonia]

I'd like to join the IRC, but can't find the channel anywhere.

[Parhe]

I'd like to join the IRC, but can't find the channel anywhere.

Lol I was wondering why you never got on.

Esper.net

Channel is #1800s

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

How do we do to trade with NPC's?

[Novacom]

Ayre

[Ayreonia]

I can't pick Espernet as my network.

[Parhe]

I can't pick Espernet as my network.

Just join from the web.

http://esper.net/publicirc.php

[Brabrantium]

what are we talking about?

[Parhe]

what are we talking about?

The irc

[Mondrova]

Hey Aye which Gibraltar strait nation are you allied to?

Anyone going after Gibraltar will have to deal with Venice. We like the status que there, unless of course the change there involves Venice getting in on the straight.

Also, as I implied, the two strait powers are likely to assist one an other, unless they are sure they can control the strait themselves by going to war. After all, they prefer the current system to potential hostile power controlling it.

Also, I'll get a respond up to you today Cas and a post about my position in the New World.

EDIT: Mit, you are contacting the wrong nation. Tangiers dictates policy for the strait, Cartegena simply has a deal with them where they pass free and get 20% of the profits, and the two sort of mutually protect the strait. You need to Tangiers to be the one your proposing your deal to.

[Ayreonia]

Romagna isn't really posing a threat to either side of the Strait. They just want to get their ships through, since there's a war to be waged on the other side.

[Mondrova]

Romagna isn't really posing a threat to either side of the Strait. They just want to get their ships through, since there's a war to be waged on the other side.

He would need Tangier to be the one attacking you. Personally, they are more likely to just tax you more if anything, unless Portugal is helping them with ships, and ground troops to reclaim some land in Africa. They wont want to be in a war that will threaten their power, since their current position is what keeps Rabat in place.

[Novacom]

Bulgaria has recently launched a colonisation mission across the black sea and will likely be travelling through you en eoute to India but he hasn't mentioned whether he goes through now NPC Persia or Myself and go via the sea's

He'll have to go through one of you at some point. Though I am curious, would you allow a colonization group from another nation through your nation?

I highly doubt it given I have a Babylonian equivalent of the great wall of China on my borders (though this one has a fair few gates) I would very much be able to stop him and it would depend on how I was approached, though I don't rate the chances too high, they would almost certainly have a better chance of surviving me refusing them than attempting to go through the Timurids...

[The Vaktovian Empire]

NS Name:The Vaktovian Empire
Nation Name:Kingdom of Sparta
Capital City: Sparta
Government Type:Military Council , Oligarchy
Head of State:King Asker II
Claimed Territory:NPC Claim (Provide a detailed description, or preferred, a map):
State/National Religion: Hellinism
Dominant Religion: Hellinism
Minority Religion(s):Roman Catholicism
Population:6 Million (Please keep realistic...):
Population Growth Rate:15,000 per year:
Military Organization:Professional Army
Military Size:30,000 soldiers
Fleet Size: 50 ships ABOUT: Every ship even small ships come with a locker stored with swords, bow weaponry like Crossbows, Bows, Longbows, etc, and guns which are the ship's armory. The Navy's top commander is the Supreme Commander of the Navy. All major officer ranks below him or in this order: Fleet Master, Captain, Lieutenant.
National Flag: (Put in a spoiler.)

(Image)

National Focus:Grand Army, Seafaring
National Idea(s):Arquebus, Mare Nostrum, Printing Press
Trade Policy:Mercantilism (Free trade or Mercantilism)
Civil Freedoms: Free Subjects (Serfdom or Free Subjects)
Primary Import(s): Iron, Gunpowder, Grain
Primary Export(s): Textiles, vases, metal goods, wine, olive oil, marble, silver
Primary Culture: Spartan (Primary culture/linguistic group)
Accepted Cultures: Sparta, Greek, Turkish, Bulgarian (Up to 2 cultures, must be present in your territory)

Brief Description of your nation's History: Long before the death of almighty Rome, Sparta, once a glistening city-state of military power was already on life support, and dying fast. Soon, young Rome overran all of Greece. But the dying city-state would refuse to go down without swinging a sword. Even after most of Greece had collapsed, Sparta continued to resist at every waking moment. Even once they had inevitably fallen, rebellions were common, to the tune of every couple of years. Once Rome had fallen, and all that was left was the Byzantine Empire, the city saw its chance. Byzantium was still a rich trading Empire, one whose mighty armies surrendered its gold to a bunch of barbarians with horses, and nothing else to them but numbers and desperation. It was at this time, that most of Greece broke away from the Empire. Soon afterward, several attempts to conquer Greece under a new 'Roman' Emperor, ravaged the land. Nine times, Sparta was nearly destroyed. And nine times, it refused stubbornly to fall. Four of these times, found help from the growing Athenian trade Empire. And of these, 2 were responsible for the existence of the city now. From then on, the people of Sparta forgot their age-old hatred of the Athenians, and found themselves in a sort of 'debt'. This 'debt' would be re-payed soon enough. As the Byzantines began their Restoration, an attempt to revive the Roman Empire, they swept through Greece, claiming everything by the tip of a sword. Even Athens fell before them. Next, would have been Corinth. A state, which, even after all that had happened, was still powerful, and rich. But they could not fight the Byzantines with any chance of winning alone. They made a desperate call for help to the rest of Peloponnese. For the Northern states, it was too late, many had already fallen. But in the South, the Spartan Kingdom which now controlled six major city-states, was about show its stubbornness once more, and, as usual, using a sword at the same time. King Kradus sent most of the military to Corinth, the rest joined with the other Southern states who has bonded in coalition, to fight the Byzantines at the North. This army, was not that of the dying Sparta so many years ago. This was the army we all knew, one that we could imagine at Thermopylae. Five great battles erupted at Corinth. At the first, they were nearly too late. The Byzantines were already moving through the gates on the East. The Spartans entered from the West, and met in the middle. The battle was almost wholly one-sided at this point, as thousands of routing Corinthians suddenly picked up their swords once more and threw themselves at the enemy. Several times, the Northern live waned, but after every waning, it waxed twice more. As the Byzantines continued advancing, their armies left for other lands. As they backed off from Corinth, the Spartans happily chased for their own enjoyment, and waved a proud salute to Athens as they passed by. In their eyes, they had been the liberators of Greece. Though in reality, much of Greece simply liberated itself as the Byzantines left.

Brief Description of your nation's economy: The economy focuses mainly on the pure survival of the nation. One of the biggest focuses in Sparta is of the military, for the fact that there are much bigger surrounding nations, and all males are required to be ready for combat service. Trading in gunpowder, the Spartan Army is very much well equipped, and the navy is also a backbone of the countries' main defense economy. The government also focuses highly on Farming which feeds the hungry stomachs of factory workers and military recruits and officers.
Brief Description of your nation's government: The government of Sparta is supremely ruled by the King. He is the word of the people. But since Sparta is a militaristic nation, if the King is found to be corrupt, that is the case and one of the only cases where the people and military may overthrow him. Examples of corruption are siding with enemy nations betraying the nation's official current religion, siding with rebels, insurrectionists, mercenaries which are all illegal in Sparta. Other examples include gambling, extortion, racketeering and any other illegal activies. The King's advisors of both politics and military strategy or otherwise known as the "King's Court" are made up of 12 politicians each representing one of the 12 major regions of Sparta. Other political advisors and departments are also figured in. The King's Court includes the following:
-King (Overall Ruler, plus Commander in Chief of Army)
-12 Representatives (Voice opinions of people)
-Minister of Treasury
-Minister of Religion (Much like the Pope)
-Minister of Economics
-Minister of Trade
-Minister of Agriculture
-10 Generals
-3 Fleet Masters
-1 Supreme Commander of the Navy (Lower than Chieftain and King)
-3 Field Marshals
-1 Chieftain (Chief of Staff)

Brief Description of your nation's populace:The People of Sparta are a fairly happy, fairly treated people; so long as the government is happy. The military has more respect and dominance than the overall population and Military forces are ALWAYS on duty. Women are considered to be of equal
fighting strength of men but common skepticalism says otherwise. Though most women are happy in
farming or houskeeping or working in the factories, they are given the option to serve in the military. The Kingdom's populace depends on the military highly to keep it safe. Though there are several groups that want to bring the king down and his military shatter all of the great Kingdom's accomplishments and bring whatever sick type of government that could be better than the overall fair system of the current Kingdom. These groups can consist of Mercenaries, Rebels, or all around Drunks with a few handy guns in hand. The kingdom overall though is happy, enthused, and ready for whatever comes there way.

RP Example: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=196239

I copied his history, because I read it and sounds every bit of good like something I would have written. I will just be replacing the king in his history, and of course my government will of changed from the way his was probably a little. But as long as we have that history straight, that's all that matters.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

MY FINAL EDIT TO THIS POST!!!!

[Novacom]

Europe doesn't have Sugarcane so you can't offer 10 percent of what you don't have, Sugarcane was introduced by Arab traders to Europe which given there are no Arab traders you wouldn't have it to trade...

And stop shifting things forward by claiming a ship would have made it back so you know where to find your by now wiped out colony thanks to not having any food...

[Mondrova]

MY FINAL EDIT TO THIS POST!!!!

You still have nothing for exports, and his history is on page five of the old OOC. Did you try looking at all?

[Mondrova]

Europe doesn't have Sugarcane so you can't offer 10 percent of what you don't have, Sugarcane was introduced by Arab traders to Europe which given there are no Arab traders you wouldn't have it to trade...

And stop shifting things forward by claiming a ship would have made it back so you know where to find your by now wiped out colony thanks to not having any food...

Arabs are not necessary for the diffusion of goods or ideas, they just so happened to be the people that did so in RL with say, sugarcane. Really anyone could have done it.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

MY FINAL EDIT TO THIS POST!!!!

You still have nothing for exports, and his history is on page five of the old OOC. Did you try looking at all?

Yes.

[Novacom]

I was using the extrapolation of Arabs being the ones who spread it around their Caliphates and to Andalusia when the Europeans got access to it when Al-Andalus fell...

[Mondrova]

I was using the extrapolation of Arabs being the ones who spread it around their Caliphates and to Andalusia when the Europeans got access to it when Al-Andalus fell...

Like I said, ideas and goods are exchanged normally anyway. The Arabs were not necessary for things like sugarcane to reach Europe. Besides, certain Caliphates would have existed anyway, like the Fatamid, just with beginnings outside of Arabia, so they would have had contact with areas dealing with such produce anyway and thus exchanged them along their empire to place like Morocco and Europe. Besides, Al-Andalus didn't fall until significantly later in this time period.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Was I accepted? Or...?