Europa Universalis: New World (Alternate Earth: OOC/Open)

[IndianKelewan]

Wait has Sovot's claim expired???

As far as I am concerned yes.

In that case, I would like to revise my claim to this.

[Ralnis]

I decied to try again making a native nation, so please give me any pointers in editing my app so I can make it better, thank you.

NS Name:Grand Tribes of Ralnis
Nation Name:Grand Tribes of Ralnis
Capital City:Nothwind
Government Type:Tribal Empire
Head of State:Warlord Xergiok
Claimed Territory:Magadan,Kamchatka,Chukota (Provide a detailed description, or preferred, a map)
State/National Religion:Paganism
Dominant Religion:Paganism 100%
Minority Religion(s):none
Population:100,000 (Please keep realistic...)
Population Growth Rate:0.3
Military Organization:Nomad/Horde
Military Size:3000(3% peacetime), 7000(7% wartime),8000(8% Wartime/Imperal Administration National Idea Modifier)
Fleet Size:80 warships
National Flag:

(Image)

(Put in a spoiler.)

National Focus:Hegemony, Grand Army
National Idea(s):Imperial Administration, Siege Corps
Trade Policy: Free Trade (Free trade or Mercantilism)
Civil Freedoms:Serfdom (Serfdom or Free Subjects)
Primary Import(s):Gunpowder
Primary Export(s):steel,wood
Primary Culture:Ralnisian (Primary culture/linguistic group)
Accepted Cultures:none (Up to 2 cultures, must be present in your territory)

Brief Description of your nation's History:The tribes where in the Kamchatka Peninsula where their tribes where fighting amounst each other and the land itself was difficult to live off anyway. The tribe of Ralsu was an agreesive tribe and did not know how to farm, they only got their food from raiding other tribes, the first warlord came to power by telling his tribe that they will enslaved the other tribes in order for the tribe of Ralsu to live. The tribe launch a bloody campaign that hundreds of men,women, and children died until the entire peninsula was enslave by Ralsu, the name was changed to Ralnis when the first warlord died and his son, who his name was Ralnis ironicaly, deiced that the peninsula was not enough and wanted to expand"beyond the sun's limit" therefore the tribes that where under Ralnis start another bloody campaign that lasted for several centeries until the year 1238 that the last of the tribes where enslave until the entire three peninsulas where unified(Magadan,Kamchatka,Chukota) under Warlord Hiegoh. The land was in something of a peace until the year 1321 where someone killed the current Warlord and spark a bloody civil war until the year 1485 that Warlord Xergiok unify the land under the orginal tribe of Ralnis and is currently looking to expand west and enslave more tribes, it was not until the year 1486, when the Chinese of Gogueyeo, they where first met with hostlity when the people try to settle their, an envoy came to the Warlord in hopes of traade and peace, the Warlord only agreed if they where to trade their"Fire magic" with them, the envoy knew he meant gunpowder and he said the tribes should open free trade with them their steel and wood.Warlord Xergiok agreed, and thus brought the tribes into what they called the"Age of Black Fire" as they made the first gunpowder artillery and the Warlord is now more than egar to use these weapons to conquer the west under the Ralnisan flag.
Brief Description of your nation's economy:Their is no offical econmy, but a barter system which is made out of basic tribal trinkets in exchange for: food, animals,slaves, brides,warrors,or land.In the tribes, the amount of slaves and animals one has, the more wealth he measured by.
Brief Description of your nation's government:The Warlord is the leader and head general of the tribal army, where the warband leaders are the officers and leaders of their own tribes, only by the united power of the warlord will they ever go to war. if the warlord dies, then the tribes will contest and go to war to see who is going to lead them, this war can be decades to centuries. Women can become leaders only if they have proven themselves, which their has only been one, but she was quickly assassainted and her son was warlord who said that women can become warlord, but was to assanaited and lead to a civil war, as you can see, the goverment is very dynamic and chaotic.
Brief Description of your nation's populace:The tribes are very simple in their scoiety class, which stands as this.
Warlord, leader and general of the forces
Warband leaders, officers and leader of their tribes
Tribal men,women,and children
Slaves

RP Example:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=226192
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=223464
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=220291
Yes I have talked to Parhe about it, so I hope it is alright.

[Megale Epeiros]

NS Name: Megale Epeiros
Nation Name: The Eternal Empire of Srivijaya
Capital City: Temasek (administrative), Palembang (cultural)
Government Type: Absolute monarchy
Head of State: Emperor
Claimed Territory: Malay Peninsula, Singapore, Sumatra, Java, the Moluccas, Sabah, a small area on the north-eastern tip of Madagascar, a small pocket in southeast India, half of Sri Lanka
State/National Religion: Islam
Dominant Religion: Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism
Minority Religion(s): Christianity, Confucianism, Taoism
Population: 16 218 000
Population Growth Rate: 1.08%
Military Organization: Tributary levies
Military Size: 224 392
Fleet Size: 7 410
National Flag:

(Image)

National Focus: Tradewinds, Grand Army
National Idea(s): Printing Press, Arquebus, Colombian Exchange
Trade Policy: Mercantilism
Civil Freedoms: Free Subjects
Primary Import(s): Tea, rice, gunpowder, firearms
Primary Export(s): Tin, gold, spices, tea, fabrics and textiles, timber
Primary Culture: Malay
Accepted Cultures: Proto-Malays, Tamil

Brief Description of your nation's History:

Following success in totally smashing the Singhasari kingdom — preventing the fall of Srivijaya from their successors, Majapahit — Srivijaya launched naval raids and, later, an invasion in the year 921, completely destroying the Chola dynasty. The territory gained from this campaign is still disputed due to claims from the Sri Lankan Empire. From then on, Srivijayan culture spread, founding colonies all the way in Madagascar (indeed, Malay sailors did possess great nautical skills in real life — they were able to sail all the way to East Africa, and their distant cousins, the Polynesians, settled in islands in the Pacific).

Meanwhile, in the 11th century, Srivijaya began dominating the rest of Indochina, gaining total control by the 13th. They also started trading with the Chinese for firearms and gunpowder, which proved to be beneficial in conquest of the rest of the Malay Archipelago. In 1376, an interregnum took over, dubbed the Shattering of the 14th Century by scribes, following the death of Emperor Megat Sikander Shah IV, with the throne being fought over by numerous nobles and Sikander's exiled prince, Suleiman II, in Kataha.

This resulted in the splintering of the once great Empire, leading to three portions: One controlled by Suleiman II, which comprises of Peninsular Malaysia, the islands of Java, Sumatra and the Moluccas, and the colonies in South India and Madagascar (each contributing no more than 0.73% and 0.83% of the population respectively); one controlled by his second cousin Saif Mansur, which comprises of the Riau Islands, Borneo and the Philippines; the other by an ambitious warlord, Paduka Seri Wijaya, who has total domination of Indochina and its resources.

The situation has not much changed a hundred and twenty four years later, with the turning of the century. Suleiman VI hopes to take back the land which was rightfully his, now taken away by once-loyal subjects. Once he does this can he set his sights upon the rest of the world.

Brief Description of your nation's economy:

In its prime, Srivijaya had full supremacy of the spice trade, drawing from resources all over the Malay Archipelago. Tin and gold became precious commodities in large demand by the West, and thanks to its strategic location between China and India, and the fact that the land was mostly protected from the monsoon winds thanks to the possession of a natural barrier, the Bukit Barisan mountain range, was a center of trade in the region.

The Shattering made a large dent in Srivijaya's position as the hegemon of the region, yet Srivijaya remains prosperous. In order to regain their proper place in the world, the ruling king must look to new sources of income to facilitate trade. Only with a strong economy and a waterfall in their coffers can they then regain lands that once were theirs.

Brief Description of your nation's government:

While the emperor reigns supreme at the top, he is in turn aided by the Four-fold Council; with the Vizier, Admiral, Treasurer, and Head of Police at the top, followed by eight other aristocrats, then sixteen aristocrats, and finally thirty-two aristocrats, numbering to a total of sixty.

The Vizier is often from a different branch of the same family of the Emperor; rival king Saif Mansur himself was a Vizier in Megat Sikander Shah IV's reign. The Vizier not only served as the Emperor's main advisor, but served too as the Commander-in-Chief and was usually half the reason for the success of Srivijaya. Make no mistake, however, they are quick to turn on their masters as soon as their backs are turned to them, and are often forging political alliances in secret against the ruling king. As Emperor, Suleiman IV must deal with internal threats as well as external.

The Admiral is seen as a champion of the Srivijayan cause, an embodiment of the ideals of a true Srivijayan warrior. Often, princes of the Emperor serve a tenure as an Admiral to prove their worth and the strength of their hearts and sword arms, raiding all across the Malay Archipelago. In fact, Suleiman II too was part of this honorable tradition. However, after sustaining a crushing defeat by a Bugis Confederacy, his reputation was tarnished, seen as a weak Emperor and not worthy of commanding the people's respect, and was in turn exiled to Kataha.

The Head of Police is in charge of the people's safety as well as the state. Fairly straightforward, he is in charge of crushing any hope of crime or corruption in the area; well, at least in theory. He is also responsible for dealing with threats of insurrection and rebellion in the Empire. In the Shattering, the Head of Police in fact supported the insurrections, especially Paduka Seri Wijaya's faction, hoping to divide the factions so that he too could claim the Empire for himself. However, the tables were turned when the Head of Police, upon conquering Sumatera from Paduka Seri Wijaya, was slain by Suleiman II in combat when he took Sumatera from him just a week later.

Brief Description of your nation's populace:

The land of Srivijaya is one of numerous cultures and peoples, ranging from the distant Malagasy in the west to the Proto-Malays such as the Senoi and the Orang Laut in the east. The Srivijayans descend from a race of naturally skilled sailors that harnessed the winds of the monsoon and sailed all the way to East Africa in the West to the Easter Islands in the East, and from the northern tip of Australia in the South to distant Japan in the north. There are some who even claim that the Malays discovered the New Land first, but that only seems to be a fringe theory. They are primarily a warrior culture, launching raids and invasions into enemy lands for loot and resources as well as the dominance of the seas, similar to ancient Mycenae. They have also founded numerous colonies along the coastlines of Asia, alike to the Phoenicians and their colonies across the Mediterranean. However, only a small portion of those colonies are under active Srivijayan control.

RP Example: I was an active RPer, but since most RPs I've joined in the past are probably now long dead or have descended into oblivion, I have decided to write one myself.

Kutaraja Singhasari
917 AD

Against the reflection of a pale waxing moon, the waves gently lapped against the narrow stretch of sand that was the beach, towards the grand city of Kutaraja Singhasari, dim lights illuminating the wooden buildings amid the yawns of distant slumber. Nary a creak nor a groan sounded from the docks, nor was there the hustle and bustle of the populace. Nothing stirred as far as the eye could see. Guards stood half asleep along the railings of the Grand Palace, spears at the side, eyelids weighed down as if by iron elephants. As the tides glittered with midnight illumination, nothing protruded through the foggy horizon, except the distant edges of what seemed to be inky black rocks, glistening in the darkness.

"Full speed," commanded Emperor Suleiman I Shah, as his flagship pierced the veil that was the mist, obscuring his troops from detection. "If we are to take advantage of their slumber, we cannot afford to dally."

He was met with nods of approval, and the faint whisperings of hushed orders. Oars dug into the depths ever faster, soldiers readied their spears and machetes, and artillery men prepared mangonels in anticipation.

As they crossed the threshold, Suleiman I stopped and addressed his men. Now was the time for stealth and subtlety no longer. Now was the time for glory and bloodshed.

"My brothers, true warriors of Srivijaya! Today we make amends with our neighbours of Singhasari! Today we fully repay our debts to them, for it is known that the men of Srivijaya remember their debts!

"Two and twenty years ago, my grandfather, Balaputra Rama Vikrama II, was slain by these vile neighbours of ours, horribly mutilated, and paraded around their square for a fortnight. Five years ago, they slaughtered my father, Sikander II, and took his daughters, my sisters, as slaves. Now, we shall be generous, and pay them back tenfold.

"Burn their houses to the ground! Destroy the very foundations! Slaughter every man, and rip their women and children apart! Parade their entrails throughout the city! Turn the very seas red with their traitorous blood!

Out of the gloom, the 63 ships, carrying 39 000 men altogether, drifted into the bay, though if they were men or monsters when their ships landed, one could not say.

[United States of Cascadia]

So Mond, what exactly are the relations of the former Caliphate lands to one another? Also how is the Straight of Gibraltar/Tangiers? Are there any taxes on it, etc. Finally, is the alliance between Venice and Tangiers still in effect?

[Mondrova]

So Mond, what exactly are the relations of the former Caliphate lands to one another? Also how is the Straight of Gibraltar/Tangiers? Are there any taxes on it, etc. Finally, is the alliance between Venice and Tangiers still in effect?

Well, Cartegena and Tangiers are peaceful with each other, though on the mainland, violence is likely to break out. Rabat is usually fighting with Tangiers on and off, though the two never take it to a level which wont eventually die down, lest they basically destroy each other. The two eastern nations, are constantly fighting each other, and are the weakest of the 5 nations. As for the Berber tribes, they have a lot of sway in the Sahara, and don't really pick sides. They are mercenaries if they do fight.

The Strait of Tangiers is still under the control of Tangiers most definitely. While obviously not at its former glory, many of the large amount of defenses built along the strait still stand on both the Moroccan and Iberian end. Tangiers also maintains a decent sized navy. Taxes are still about it, though less than they were previously, and Cartegena accepts a deal of 20% of the profits and they pass through toll free, so as to have some foundation for keeping the peace. So Cartegena is likely to defend the strait with Tangiers, unless they feel they will gain control of it themselves from the agreement. All in all, the strait is cheaper, and a secure area, but if the two should go head to head, it would no doubt mess up traffic pretty badly for a while both in and out of the Med until one side was a clear winner.

As for the alliance, I probably would be. The Caliphate in Tangiers is the same government that made the deal with Venice, and whats more, will want an ally to help solidify their position. Undoubtedly, Tangiers wants to reign in its former lands. It has been gathering strength for a time to try and reclaim the eastern kingdoms, but the area is still volatile, and Rabat could take advantage of such a move. As such, Tangiers has been been trying to gain more and more favor with Cartegena to assist them. While Rabat is attempting to gain favor in Africa and with the Berbers. The Berbers are also a somewhat unified force of powerful fighters. Collectively, if they wanted to start their own nation by conquest, they could. There are a large number of them, and many tribes are wealthy, both of which is a direct result of their involvement with the Caliphate and their dissociating as much as possible from each faction in the Civil War. Then, given the fact that my nation also uses the Berbers for Sahel trade and information from up north, they are actually a fairly powerful and influential group in the region.

[United States of Cascadia]

So Mond, what exactly are the relations of the former Caliphate lands to one another? Also how is the Straight of Gibraltar/Tangiers? Are there any taxes on it, etc. Finally, is the alliance between Venice and Tangiers still in effect?

Well, Cartegena and Tangiers are peaceful with each other, though on the mainland, violence is likely to break out. Rabat is usually fighting with Tangiers on and off, though the two never take it to a level which wont eventually die down, lest they basically destroy each other. The two eastern nations, are constantly fighting each other, and are the weakest of the 5 nations. As for the Berber tribes, they have a lot of sway in the Sahara, and don't really pick sides. They are mercenaries if they do fight.

The Strait of Tangiers is still under the control of Tangiers most definitely. While obviously not at its former glory, many of the large amount of defenses built along the strait still stand on both the Moroccan and Iberian end. Tangiers also maintains a decent sized navy. Taxes are still about it, though less than they were previously, and Cartegena accepts a deal of 20% of the profits and they pass through toll free, so as to have some foundation for keeping the peace. So Cartegena is likely to defend the strait with Tangiers, unless they feel they will gain control of it themselves from the agreement. All in all, the strait is cheaper, and a secure area, but if the two should go head to head, it would no doubt mess up traffic pretty badly for a while both in and out of the Med until one side was a clear winner.

As for the alliance, I probably would be. The Caliphate in Tangiers is the same government that made the deal with Venice, and whats more, will want an ally to help solidify their position. Undoubtedly, Tangiers wants to reign in its former lands. It has been gathering strength for a time to try and reclaim the eastern kingdoms, but the area is still volatile, and Rabat could take advantage of such a move. As such, Tangiers has been been trying to gain more and more favor with Cartegena to assist them. While Rabat is attempting to gain favor in Africa and with the Berbers. The Berbers are also a somewhat unified force of powerful fighters. Collectively, if they wanted to start their own nation by conquest, they could. There are a large number of them, and many tribes are wealthy, both of which is a direct result of their involvement with the Caliphate and their dissociating as much as possible from each faction in the Civil War. Then, given the fact that my nation also uses the Berbers for Sahel trade and information from up north, they are actually a fairly powerful and influential group in the region.

Awesome, thanks for all the info

[Mondrova]

Well, Cartegena and Tangiers are peaceful with each other, though on the mainland, violence is likely to break out. Rabat is usually fighting with Tangiers on and off, though the two never take it to a level which wont eventually die down, lest they basically destroy each other. The two eastern nations, are constantly fighting each other, and are the weakest of the 5 nations. As for the Berber tribes, they have a lot of sway in the Sahara, and don't really pick sides. They are mercenaries if they do fight.

The Strait of Tangiers is still under the control of Tangiers most definitely. While obviously not at its former glory, many of the large amount of defenses built along the strait still stand on both the Moroccan and Iberian end. Tangiers also maintains a decent sized navy. Taxes are still about it, though less than they were previously, and Cartegena accepts a deal of 20% of the profits and they pass through toll free, so as to have some foundation for keeping the peace. So Cartegena is likely to defend the strait with Tangiers, unless they feel they will gain control of it themselves from the agreement. All in all, the strait is cheaper, and a secure area, but if the two should go head to head, it would no doubt mess up traffic pretty badly for a while both in and out of the Med until one side was a clear winner.

As for the alliance, I probably would be. The Caliphate in Tangiers is the same government that made the deal with Venice, and whats more, will want an ally to help solidify their position. Undoubtedly, Tangiers wants to reign in its former lands. It has been gathering strength for a time to try and reclaim the eastern kingdoms, but the area is still volatile, and Rabat could take advantage of such a move. As such, Tangiers has been been trying to gain more and more favor with Cartegena to assist them. While Rabat is attempting to gain favor in Africa and with the Berbers. The Berbers are also a somewhat unified force of powerful fighters. Collectively, if they wanted to start their own nation by conquest, they could. There are a large number of them, and many tribes are wealthy, both of which is a direct result of their involvement with the Caliphate and their dissociating as much as possible from each faction in the Civil War. Then, given the fact that my nation also uses the Berbers for Sahel trade and information from up north, they are actually a fairly powerful and influential group in the region.

Awesome, thanks for all the info

Np, since it was my former nation I feel a sort of attachment, I suppose you could say. I want to make sure it has a good run still, even if it ends up dying out completely.

[Ayreonia]

Am I accepted now?

You're allowed to have another Focus and Idea.

Your population is too high IMO. I'd also like a more detailed description of your naval forces.

Sparta used to be played by somebody, so you'll have to stick to his history.

And no, flintlocks don't exist yet.

I replied. Focus.

[Great Nepal]

Btw here it is where my colonists got and settled in Amazonas mouth:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/semttulo11n.png/

That depends on what you mean by settlement. They could have explored that area and said "yea, this area belongs to me" and live in tents or some houses raided from natives. However, there wont be much else.

[Great Nepal]

Hey Boriem, would you be fine if Britannia's first contact in new world is with you instead of Chaconee? The ships could have arrived south of your territory instead of North of Chaconee.
Just so you know, Britain is nice with natives (just swear fealty, accept Emperor as god's true representative (no one cares what religion you follow after that), and give 10 warship a year (or 8,000 gold a month) and 10 slaves a month. We can divide product from mining etc in ratio of 45:55.)

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

Btw here it is where my colonists got and settled in Amazonas mouth:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/semttulo11n.png/

That depends on what you mean by settlement. They could have explored that area and said "yea, this area belongs to me" and live in tents or some houses raided from natives. However, there wont be much else.

Thanks, that was what I meant. They sure didn't build a city, they just explored and mapped that land. And why wouldn't they survive? They are in the equator so there's no winter. They are in Amazonas mouth so agriculture is viable and they have plenty of water.

[Mondrova]

Btw here it is where my colonists got and settled in Amazonas mouth:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/semttulo11n.png/

That depends on what you mean by settlement. They could have explored that area and said "yea, this area belongs to me" and live in tents or some houses raided from natives. However, there wont be much else.

From what I gather, most are going with the colonize immediately path, which while good if you want to get started quickly, is a pretty sure fire way to make your settlement even harder to found and keep functioning. Still, at least I'll get to read a lot of posts of people basically just spamming the New World with people until they stop dying so much, which for seem reason seems fun to me.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

Hey Boriem, would you be fine if Britannia's first contact in new world is with you instead of Chaconee? The ships could have arrived south of your territory instead of North of Chaconee.
Just so you know, Britain is nice with natives (just swear fealty, accept Emperor as god's true representative (no one cares what religion you follow after that), and give 10 warship a year (or 8,000 gold a month) and 10 slaves a month. We can divide product from mining etc in ratio of 45:55.)

Yeah, I'm not sure if they could understand all that. It is a thing talking in Europe but another completely different talking to Americans.

[Mondrova]

That depends on what you mean by settlement. They could have explored that area and said "yea, this area belongs to me" and live in tents or some houses raided from natives. However, there wont be much else.

Thanks, that was what I meant. They sure didn't build a city, they just explored and mapped that land. And why wouldn't they survive? They are in the equator so there's no winter. They are in Amazonas mouth so agriculture is viable and they have plenty of water.

Well, for one thing, you know basically nothing of the land, the animals, the food, and of the people. Then there is the fact that the tropics isn't going to be something that Europeans are used to. I mean, there might be no winter, but that because there are two season, wet and dry, which is also very new, and its very humid and hot, like, all the time, which really messes with your crops.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

That depends on what you mean by settlement. They could have explored that area and said "yea, this area belongs to me" and live in tents or some houses raided from natives. However, there wont be much else.

From what I gather, most are going with the colonize immediately path, which while good if you want to get started quickly, is a pretty sure fire way to make your settlement even harder to found and keep functioning. Still, at least I'll get to read a lot of posts of people basically just spamming the New World with people until they stop dying so much, which for seem reason seems fun to me.

I think that it isn't that hard to follow the equatorial line

[Mondrova]

Hey Boriem, would you be fine if Britannia's first contact in new world is with you instead of Chaconee? The ships could have arrived south of your territory instead of North of Chaconee.
Just so you know, Britain is nice with natives (just swear fealty, accept Emperor as god's true representative (no one cares what religion you follow after that), and give 10 warship a year (or 8,000 gold a month) and 10 slaves a month. We can divide product from mining etc in ratio of 45:55.)

Yeah, I'm not sure if they could understand all that. It is a thing talking in Europe but another completely different talking to Americans.

I don't see why they wouldn't understand it. I mean, the concepts are hardly foreign to natives, and the nation itself has notable Nordic influences and people.

[Mondrova]

From what I gather, most are going with the colonize immediately path, which while good if you want to get started quickly, is a pretty sure fire way to make your settlement even harder to found and keep functioning. Still, at least I'll get to read a lot of posts of people basically just spamming the New World with people until they stop dying so much, which for seem reason seems fun to me.

I think that it isn't that hard to follow the equatorial line

What?

[Great Nepal]

Hey Boriem, would you be fine if Britannia's first contact in new world is with you instead of Chaconee? The ships could have arrived south of your territory instead of North of Chaconee.
Just so you know, Britain is nice with natives (just swear fealty, accept Emperor as god's true representative (no one cares what religion you follow after that), and give 10 warship a year (or 8,000 gold a month) and 10 slaves a month. We can divide product from mining etc in ratio of 45:55.)

Yeah, I'm not sure if they could understand all that. It is a thing talking in Europe but another completely different talking to Americans.

Good point, anyone know why Europeans communicated with natives in RL? I mean natives were in military of some European nations, so there must have been communication.

That depends on what you mean by settlement. They could have explored that area and said "yea, this area belongs to me" and live in tents or some houses raided from natives. However, there wont be much else.

From what I gather, most are going with the colonize immediately path, which while good if you want to get started quickly, is a pretty sure fire way to make your settlement even harder to found and keep functioning. Still, at least I'll get to read a lot of posts of people basically just spamming the New World with people until they stop dying so much, which for seem reason seems fun to me.

That will reduce your population though. Hence my approach, "yea, natives you do what you want. Here are some guns to shoot your enemies and machines to make producing stuff efficient. Just give me some of the produce from my machines and reasonable homage. Oh, and I will recruit some of your people into local army, to guard you lot."

[Mondrova]

Yeah, I'm not sure if they could understand all that. It is a thing talking in Europe but another completely different talking to Americans.

Good point, anyone know why Europeans communicated with natives in RL? I mean natives were in military of some European nations, so there must have been communication.

From what I gather, most are going with the colonize immediately path, which while good if you want to get started quickly, is a pretty sure fire way to make your settlement even harder to found and keep functioning. Still, at least I'll get to read a lot of posts of people basically just spamming the New World with people until they stop dying so much, which for seem reason seems fun to me.

That will reduce your population though. Hence my approach, "yea, natives you do what you want. Here are some guns to shoot your enemies and machines to make producing stuff efficient. Just give me some of the produce from my machines and reasonable homage. Oh, and I will recruit some of your people into local army, to guard you lot."

I imagine once you get pass the language barrier, the actual concepts you have wont be to hard to explain. The bit about coinage would be harder to explain if the natives have no monetary system, but the warships bit would be easy enough. I mean, I don't see any of the concepts being all that foreign to natives. It's basically religion and tribute. Now whether they agree or not is a whole different ballpark.

My own method of colonization will be very Spanish in the Caribbean, and very British in Brazil. Brazil is reasonably close to my Empire and so will act as a decent spot for expansion of populations, hopefully leading to further expansion along the coast. The Caribbean though, will be filled with slavery and suffering gator. Oh, and lots of monies.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

I think that it isn't that hard to follow the equatorial line

What?

A bit took out of context but my settlement is in the equator (line).

[Great Nepal]

I imagine once you get pass the language barrier, the actual concepts you have wont be to hard to explain. The bit about coinage would be harder to explain if the natives have no monetary system, but the warships bit would be easy enough. I mean, I don't see any of the concepts being all that foreign to natives. It's basically religion and tribute. Now whether they agree or not is a whole different ballpark.

I got it! Hi, Squanto.

My own method of colonization will be very Spanish in the Caribbean, and very British in Brazil. Brazil is reasonably close to my Empire and so will act as a decent spot for expansion of populations, hopefully leading to further expansion along the coast. The Caribbean though, will be filled with slavery and suffering gator. Oh, and lots of monies.

I might do that latter after having good power base with natives. So first contacts are lucky, rest are not...

[Megale Epeiros]

Hey. Are my new claims still too big? Is my RP example too short? Population growth rate still too high?

NS Name: Megale Epeiros
Nation Name: The Eternal Empire of Srivijaya
Capital City: Temasek (administrative), Palembang (cultural)
Government Type: Absolute monarchy
Head of State: Emperor
Claimed Territory: Malay Peninsula, Singapore, Sumatra, Java, the Moluccas, Sabah, a small area on the north-eastern tip of Madagascar, a small pocket in southeast India, half of Sri Lanka
State/National Religion: Islam
Dominant Religion: Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism
Minority Religion(s): Christianity, Confucianism, Taoism
Population: 16 218 000
Population Growth Rate: 1.08%
Military Organization: Tributary levies
Military Size: 224 392
Fleet Size: 7 410
National Flag:

(Image)

National Focus: Tradewinds, Grand Army
National Idea(s): Printing Press, Arquebus, Colombian Exchange
Trade Policy: Mercantilism
Civil Freedoms: Serfdom
Primary Import(s): Tea, rice, gunpowder, firearms
Primary Export(s): Tin, gold, spices, tea, fabrics and textiles, timber
Primary Culture: Malay
Accepted Cultures: Proto-Malays, Tamil

Brief Description of your nation's History:

Following success in totally smashing the Singhasari kingdom — preventing the fall of Srivijaya from their successors, Majapahit — Srivijaya launched naval raids and, later, an invasion in the year 921, completely destroying the Chola dynasty. The territory gained from this campaign is still disputed due to claims from the Sri Lankan Empire. From then on, Srivijayan culture spread, founding colonies all the way in Madagascar (indeed, Malay sailors did possess great nautical skills in real life — they were able to sail all the way to East Africa, and their distant cousins, the Polynesians, settled in islands in the Pacific).

Meanwhile, in the 11th century, Srivijaya began dominating the rest of Indochina, gaining total control by the 13th. They also started trading with the Chinese for firearms and gunpowder, which proved to be beneficial in conquest of the rest of the Malay Archipelago. In 1376, an interregnum took over, dubbed the Shattering of the 14th Century by scribes, following the death of Emperor Megat Sikander Shah IV, with the throne being fought over by numerous nobles and Sikander's exiled prince, Suleiman II, in Kataha.

This resulted in the splintering of the once great Empire, leading to three portions: One controlled by Suleiman II, which comprises of Peninsular Malaysia, the islands of Java, Sumatra and the Moluccas, and the colonies in South India and Madagascar (each contributing no more than 0.73% and 0.83% of the population respectively); one controlled by his second cousin Saif Mansur, which comprises of the Riau Islands, Borneo and the Philippines; the other by an ambitious warlord, Paduka Seri Wijaya, who has total domination of Indochina and its resources.

The situation has not much changed a hundred and twenty four years later, with the turning of the century. Suleiman VI hopes to take back the land which was rightfully his, now taken away by once-loyal subjects. Once he does this can he set his sights upon the rest of the world.

Brief Description of your nation's economy:

In its prime, Srivijaya had full supremacy of the spice trade, drawing from resources all over the Malay Archipelago. Tin and gold became precious commodities in large demand by the West, and thanks to its strategic location between China and India, and the fact that the land was mostly protected from the monsoon winds thanks to the possession of a natural barrier, the Bukit Barisan mountain range, was a center of trade in the region.

The Shattering made a large dent in Srivijaya's position as the hegemon of the region, yet Srivijaya remains prosperous. In order to regain their proper place in the world, the ruling king must look to new sources of income to facilitate trade. Only with a strong economy and a waterfall in their coffers can they then regain lands that once were theirs.

Brief Description of your nation's government:

While the emperor reigns supreme at the top, he is in turn aided by the Four-fold Council; with the Vizier, Admiral, Treasurer, and Head of Police at the top, followed by eight other aristocrats, then sixteen aristocrats, and finally thirty-two aristocrats, numbering to a total of sixty.

The Vizier is often from a different branch of the same family of the Emperor; rival king Saif Mansur himself was a Vizier in Megat Sikander Shah IV's reign. The Vizier not only served as the Emperor's main advisor, but served too as the Commander-in-Chief and was usually half the reason for the success of Srivijaya. Make no mistake, however, they are quick to turn on their masters as soon as their backs are turned to them, and are often forging political alliances in secret against the ruling king. As Emperor, Suleiman IV must deal with internal threats as well as external.

The Admiral is seen as a champion of the Srivijayan cause, an embodiment of the ideals of a true Srivijayan warrior. Often, princes of the Emperor serve a tenure as an Admiral to prove their worth and the strength of their hearts and sword arms, raiding all across the Malay Archipelago. In fact, Suleiman II too was part of this honorable tradition. However, after sustaining a crushing defeat by a Bugis Confederacy, his reputation was tarnished, seen as a weak Emperor and not worthy of commanding the people's respect, and was in turn exiled to Kataha.

The Head of Police is in charge of the people's safety as well as the state. Fairly straightforward, he is in charge of crushing any hope of crime or corruption in the area; well, at least in theory. He is also responsible for dealing with threats of insurrection and rebellion in the Empire. In the Shattering, the Head of Police in fact supported the insurrections, especially Paduka Seri Wijaya's faction, hoping to divide the factions so that he too could claim the Empire for himself. However, the tables were turned when the Head of Police, upon conquering Sumatera from Paduka Seri Wijaya, was slain by Suleiman II in combat when he took Sumatera from him just a week later.

Brief Description of your nation's populace:

The land of Srivijaya is one of numerous cultures and peoples, ranging from the distant Malagasy in the west to the Proto-Malays such as the Senoi and the Orang Laut in the east. The Srivijayans descend from a race of naturally skilled sailors that harnessed the winds of the monsoon and sailed all the way to East Africa in the West to the Easter Islands in the East, and from the northern tip of Australia in the South to distant Japan in the north. There are some who even claim that the Malays discovered the New Land first, but that only seems to be a fringe theory. They are primarily a warrior culture, launching raids and invasions into enemy lands for loot and resources as well as the dominance of the seas, similar to ancient Mycenae. They have also founded numerous colonies along the coastlines of Asia, alike to the Phoenicians and their colonies across the Mediterranean. However, only a small portion of those colonies are under active Srivijayan control.

RP Example: I was an active RPer, but since most RPs I've joined in the past are probably now long dead or have descended into oblivion, I have decided to write one myself.

Kutaraja Singhasari
917 AD

Against the reflection of a pale waxing moon, the waves gently lapped against the narrow stretch of sand that was the beach, towards the grand city of Kutaraja Singhasari, dim lights illuminating the wooden buildings amid the yawns of distant slumber. Nary a creak nor a groan sounded from the docks, nor was there the hustle and bustle of the populace. Nothing stirred as far as the eye could see. Guards stood half asleep along the railings of the Grand Palace, spears at the side, eyelids weighed down as if by iron elephants. As the tides glittered with midnight illumination, nothing protruded through the foggy horizon, except the distant edges of what seemed to be inky black rocks, glistening in the darkness.

"Full speed," commanded Emperor Suleiman I Shah, as his flagship pierced the veil that was the mist, obscuring his troops from detection. "If we are to take advantage of their slumber, we cannot afford to dally."

He was met with nods of approval, and the faint whisperings of hushed orders. Oars dug into the depths ever faster, soldiers readied their spears and machetes, and artillery men prepared mangonels in anticipation.

As they crossed the threshold, Suleiman I stopped and addressed his men. Now was the time for stealth and subtlety no longer. Now was the time for glory and bloodshed.

"My brothers, true warriors of Srivijaya! Today we make amends with our neighbours of Singhasari! Today we fully repay our debts to them, for it is known that the men of Srivijaya remember their debts!

"Two and twenty years ago, my grandfather, Balaputra Rama Vikrama II, was slain by these vile neighbours of ours, horribly mutilated, and paraded around their square for a fortnight. Five years ago, they slaughtered my father, Sikander II, and took his daughters, my sisters, as slaves. Now, we shall be generous, and pay them back tenfold.

"Burn their houses to the ground! Destroy the very foundations! Slaughter every man, and rip their women and children apart! Parade their entrails throughout the city! Turn the very seas red with their traitorous blood!

Out of the gloom, the 63 ships, carrying 39 000 men altogether, drifted into the bay, though if they were men or monsters when their ships landed, one could not say.

[Mondrova]

What?

A bit took out of context but my settlement is in the equator (line).

I know, I just don't really see what that had to do with what I said.

[Victorious Islands of Mitonesia]

A bit took out of context but my settlement is in the equator (line).

I know, I just don't really see what that had to do with what I said.

You said the settlements would be hard to find.

[Ayreonia]

Hey. Are my new claims still too big? Is my RP example too short? Population growth rate still too high?

NS Name: Megale Epeiros
Nation Name: The Eternal Empire of Srivijaya
Capital City: Temasek (administrative), Palembang (cultural)
Government Type: Absolute monarchy
Head of State: Emperor
Claimed Territory: Malay Peninsula, Singapore, Sumatra, Java, the Moluccas, Sabah, a small area on the north-eastern tip of Madagascar, a small pocket in southeast India, half of Sri Lanka
State/National Religion: Islam
Dominant Religion: Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism
Minority Religion(s): Christianity, Confucianism, Taoism
Population: 16 218 000
Population Growth Rate: 1.08%
Military Organization: Tributary levies
Military Size: 224 392
Fleet Size: 7 410
National Flag:

(Image)

National Focus: Tradewinds, Grand Army
National Idea(s): Printing Press, Arquebus, Colombian Exchange
Trade Policy: Mercantilism
Civil Freedoms: Serfdom
Primary Import(s): Tea, rice, gunpowder, firearms
Primary Export(s): Tin, gold, spices, tea, fabrics and textiles, timber
Primary Culture: Malay
Accepted Cultures: Proto-Malays, Tamil

Brief Description of your nation's History:

Following success in totally smashing the Singhasari kingdom — preventing the fall of Srivijaya from their successors, Majapahit — Srivijaya launched naval raids and, later, an invasion in the year 921, completely destroying the Chola dynasty. The territory gained from this campaign is still disputed due to claims from the Sri Lankan Empire. From then on, Srivijayan culture spread, founding colonies all the way in Madagascar (indeed, Malay sailors did possess great nautical skills in real life — they were able to sail all the way to East Africa, and their distant cousins, the Polynesians, settled in islands in the Pacific).

Meanwhile, in the 11th century, Srivijaya began dominating the rest of Indochina, gaining total control by the 13th. They also started trading with the Chinese for firearms and gunpowder, which proved to be beneficial in conquest of the rest of the Malay Archipelago. In 1376, an interregnum took over, dubbed the Shattering of the 14th Century by scribes, following the death of Emperor Megat Sikander Shah IV, with the throne being fought over by numerous nobles and Sikander's exiled prince, Suleiman II, in Kataha.

This resulted in the splintering of the once great Empire, leading to three portions: One controlled by Suleiman II, which comprises of Peninsular Malaysia, the islands of Java, Sumatra and the Moluccas, and the colonies in South India and Madagascar (each contributing no more than 0.73% and 0.83% of the population respectively); one controlled by his second cousin Saif Mansur, which comprises of the Riau Islands, Borneo and the Philippines; the other by an ambitious warlord, Paduka Seri Wijaya, who has total domination of Indochina and its resources.

The situation has not much changed a hundred and twenty four years later, with the turning of the century. Suleiman VI hopes to take back the land which was rightfully his, now taken away by once-loyal subjects. Once he does this can he set his sights upon the rest of the world.

Brief Description of your nation's economy:

In its prime, Srivijaya had full supremacy of the spice trade, drawing from resources all over the Malay Archipelago. Tin and gold became precious commodities in large demand by the West, and thanks to its strategic location between China and India, and the fact that the land was mostly protected from the monsoon winds thanks to the possession of a natural barrier, the Bukit Barisan mountain range, was a center of trade in the region.

The Shattering made a large dent in Srivijaya's position as the hegemon of the region, yet Srivijaya remains prosperous. In order to regain their proper place in the world, the ruling king must look to new sources of income to facilitate trade. Only with a strong economy and a waterfall in their coffers can they then regain lands that once were theirs.

Brief Description of your nation's government:

While the emperor reigns supreme at the top, he is in turn aided by the Four-fold Council; with the Vizier, Admiral, Treasurer, and Head of Police at the top, followed by eight other aristocrats, then sixteen aristocrats, and finally thirty-two aristocrats, numbering to a total of sixty.

The Vizier is often from a different branch of the same family of the Emperor; rival king Saif Mansur himself was a Vizier in Megat Sikander Shah IV's reign. The Vizier not only served as the Emperor's main advisor, but served too as the Commander-in-Chief and was usually half the reason for the success of Srivijaya. Make no mistake, however, they are quick to turn on their masters as soon as their backs are turned to them, and are often forging political alliances in secret against the ruling king. As Emperor, Suleiman IV must deal with internal threats as well as external.

The Admiral is seen as a champion of the Srivijayan cause, an embodiment of the ideals of a true Srivijayan warrior. Often, princes of the Emperor serve a tenure as an Admiral to prove their worth and the strength of their hearts and sword arms, raiding all across the Malay Archipelago. In fact, Suleiman II too was part of this honorable tradition. However, after sustaining a crushing defeat by a Bugis Confederacy, his reputation was tarnished, seen as a weak Emperor and not worthy of commanding the people's respect, and was in turn exiled to Kataha.

The Head of Police is in charge of the people's safety as well as the state. Fairly straightforward, he is in charge of crushing any hope of crime or corruption in the area; well, at least in theory. He is also responsible for dealing with threats of insurrection and rebellion in the Empire. In the Shattering, the Head of Police in fact supported the insurrections, especially Paduka Seri Wijaya's faction, hoping to divide the factions so that he too could claim the Empire for himself. However, the tables were turned when the Head of Police, upon conquering Sumatera from Paduka Seri Wijaya, was slain by Suleiman II in combat when he took Sumatera from him just a week later.

Brief Description of your nation's populace:

The land of Srivijaya is one of numerous cultures and peoples, ranging from the distant Malagasy in the west to the Proto-Malays such as the Senoi and the Orang Laut in the east. The Srivijayans descend from a race of naturally skilled sailors that harnessed the winds of the monsoon and sailed all the way to East Africa in the West to the Easter Islands in the East, and from the northern tip of Australia in the South to distant Japan in the north. There are some who even claim that the Malays discovered the New Land first, but that only seems to be a fringe theory. They are primarily a warrior culture, launching raids and invasions into enemy lands for loot and resources as well as the dominance of the seas, similar to ancient Mycenae. They have also founded numerous colonies along the coastlines of Asia, alike to the Phoenicians and their colonies across the Mediterranean. However, only a small portion of those colonies are under active Srivijayan control.

RP Example: I was an active RPer, but since most RPs I've joined in the past are probably now long dead or have descended into oblivion, I have decided to write one myself.

Kutaraja Singhasari
917 AD

Against the reflection of a pale waxing moon, the waves gently lapped against the narrow stretch of sand that was the beach, towards the grand city of Kutaraja Singhasari, dim lights illuminating the wooden buildings amid the yawns of distant slumber. Nary a creak nor a groan sounded from the docks, nor was there the hustle and bustle of the populace. Nothing stirred as far as the eye could see. Guards stood half asleep along the railings of the Grand Palace, spears at the side, eyelids weighed down as if by iron elephants. As the tides glittered with midnight illumination, nothing protruded through the foggy horizon, except the distant edges of what seemed to be inky black rocks, glistening in the darkness.

"Full speed," commanded Emperor Suleiman I Shah, as his flagship pierced the veil that was the mist, obscuring his troops from detection. "If we are to take advantage of their slumber, we cannot afford to dally."

He was met with nods of approval, and the faint whisperings of hushed orders. Oars dug into the depths ever faster, soldiers readied their spears and machetes, and artillery men prepared mangonels in anticipation.

As they crossed the threshold, Suleiman I stopped and addressed his men. Now was the time for stealth and subtlety no longer. Now was the time for glory and bloodshed.

"My brothers, true warriors of Srivijaya! Today we make amends with our neighbours of Singhasari! Today we fully repay our debts to them, for it is known that the men of Srivijaya remember their debts!

"Two and twenty years ago, my grandfather, Balaputra Rama Vikrama II, was slain by these vile neighbours of ours, horribly mutilated, and paraded around their square for a fortnight. Five years ago, they slaughtered my father, Sikander II, and took his daughters, my sisters, as slaves. Now, we shall be generous, and pay them back tenfold.

"Burn their houses to the ground! Destroy the very foundations! Slaughter every man, and rip their women and children apart! Parade their entrails throughout the city! Turn the very seas red with their traitorous blood!

Out of the gloom, the 63 ships, carrying 39 000 men altogether, drifted into the bay, though if they were men or monsters when their ships landed, one could not say.

Two things. Don't know if you've noticed, but nobody elses ha pop growth like you. Mine is .3%.

The other is (still) your fleet size. Doing some quick math, with that many ships, you could have thirty men to crew, command and maintain a single vessel and have no troops left for anything else. I think you can see why that would be a problem.