The Fall of Byzantium: A Europe RP (OOC, Open, Sign Up)

[Valentir]

Is either France, England, Norway, Naples, or Arles avaliable?

[Muldinith]

Is either France, England, Norway, Naples, or Arles avaliable?

England is, Norway is, and so is Arles. But you can't play Arles, as I have set them up to become a partner in my union. I went the historical route and married Maximilian to Mary of Burgundy, even though the years are a bit skewed..

[Valentir]

Is either France, England, Norway, Naples, or Arles avaliable?

England is, Norway is, and so is Arles. But you can't play Arles, as I have set them up to become a partner in my union. I went the historical route and married Maximilian to Mary of Burgundy, even though the years are a bit skewed..

Kk ill be home in 5 min so ill make my app then for england

[Muldinith]

England is, Norway is, and so is Arles. But you can't play Arles, as I have set them up to become a partner in my union. I went the historical route and married Maximilian to Mary of Burgundy, even though the years are a bit skewed..

Kk ill be home in 5 min so ill make my app then for england

k k k k ok kkkk

[Landenburg]

So, England dropped out?

[Muldinith]

So, England dropped out?

the portugal guy became portugal. he switched from england

[Valentir]

NVM, still deciding on nation to pick

[Anarchist States Of America]

I took England.

[Valentir]

I took England.

Damn, I'll be someone else

[Alleniana]

To Allen and the Poland Guy,

You truly can not expect my guys just to be sitting ducks. Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast. The miles long lines would have seen you marching, changing sides, and have had to react, albeit not like they knew what was coming. Additionally, I stated most of the rest of my units were positioned behind the hills a mile from the main battle line. I believe your proportions therefore are skewed. We are talking thousands of men. So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger, to kill thousands of my men, who may or may not be 'sitting ducks' , and where most of them are behind the lines, completely aware of their surroundings. I don't think so.

I don't get you. Poland's forces were right next to yours, and you can't see them "changing sides" until they release their volley of arrows. Until that happens, you are unaware unless you told them that the Polish were going to betray you. Also, my entire army is moving, I stated my battle formations and how the formation was moving. My entire army is moving except for the siege weapon handlers. It is crashing into your pikemen lines. How can you then say this?

[Muldinith]

To Allen and the Poland Guy,

You truly can not expect my guys just to be sitting ducks. Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast. The miles long lines would have seen you marching, changing sides, and have had to react, albeit not like they knew what was coming. Additionally, I stated most of the rest of my units were positioned behind the hills a mile from the main battle line. I believe your proportions therefore are skewed. We are talking thousands of men. So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger, to kill thousands of my men, who may or may not be 'sitting ducks' , and where most of them are behind the lines, completely aware of their surroundings. I don't think so.

I don't get you. Poland's forces were right next to yours, and you can't see them "changing sides" until they release their volley of arrows. Until that happens, you are unaware unless you told them that the Polish were going to betray you. Also, my entire army is moving, I stated my battle formations and how the formation was moving. My entire army is moving except for the siege weapon handlers. It is crashing into your pikemen lines. How can you then say this?

Okay, they shot a couple of volleys. Do you think my men will sit there saying, "Oh, they are coming from that a way, the polish side...Hmmm are we being betrayed?" Hell no! any soldier can deduce what is happening. It's common sense. I RPed that they were confused and they took casualties, but to go so far and say they are STILL confused? Hell no, I won't. That's just absurd. Out of 48,000 men, not one of them can deduce that they are being attacked by an army previouly thought friends, and thus they are being betrayed.

Well, then you are committing your entire force. My mistake. But I am not. There is another half currently a mile back that is withdrawing.

[Valentir]

Country Name: Khanate of Crimea
Leader Name: Khan Ivan the Merciless
Short bio of Country or Leader:Khan Ivan came to power when his father died. He assumed command of the Crimean Khanate and has proved to be a military and economic genius but for all his effort he still has a long way to come to make Crimea strong again. He has lead Crimea to many victories and has great ambitions. After his 23rd birthday he married Victoria of Novgorod. However this did little for him to gain a political foothold in Novgorod but he is still moderatly faithful to her. Ivan so far has built up Crimea and its economy but still wants to much more improving. His plans are many and he wants to fulfill them before his death and he has a ambition no other man on earth has. Only Time will tell if he can do it or not....
Location on map (color and/or geographical region): Crimean Khanate
Population (be realistic):1,000,000
Military Size in Percentage (Must not go over 5% during peacetime):20,000 during peace time and between 60,000 to 100,000 during war depending on state of economy
Capital: Kiev
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Other Info:

[Alleniana]

I don't get you. Poland's forces were right next to yours, and you can't see them "changing sides" until they release their volley of arrows. Until that happens, you are unaware unless you told them that the Polish were going to betray you. Also, my entire army is moving, I stated my battle formations and how the formation was moving. My entire army is moving except for the siege weapon handlers. It is crashing into your pikemen lines. How can you then say this?

Okay, they shot a couple of volleys. Do you think my men will sit there saying, "Oh, they are coming from that a way, the polish side...Hmmm are we being betrayed?" Hell no! any soldier can deduce what is happening. It's common sense. I RPed that they were confused and they took casualties, but to go so far and say they are STILL confused? Hell no, I won't. That's just absurd. Out of 48,000 men, not one of them can deduce that they are being attacked by an army previouly thought friends, and thus they are being betrayed.

Well, then you are committing your entire force. My mistake. But I am not. There is another half currently a mile back that is withdrawing.

I didn't say that they wouldn't realize what is happening, but I got the impression you are telling us that we are maneouvring too fast. "Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast."

[Muldinith]

Valentir, you don't have to change. I said I would decide tomorrow as I am doing homework. I don't have time to read over your app and see if anything is wrong. You can still be whoever you want.

[Alleniana]

After the Habsburg war (assuming I win) I'm gonna smash the Crimeans into bits....after Egypt of course.

[Muldinith]

Okay, they shot a couple of volleys. Do you think my men will sit there saying, "Oh, they are coming from that a way, the polish side...Hmmm are we being betrayed?" Hell no! any soldier can deduce what is happening. It's common sense. I RPed that they were confused and they took casualties, but to go so far and say they are STILL confused? Hell no, I won't. That's just absurd. Out of 48,000 men, not one of them can deduce that they are being attacked by an army previouly thought friends, and thus they are being betrayed.

Well, then you are committing your entire force. My mistake. But I am not. There is another half currently a mile back that is withdrawing.

I didn't say that they wouldn't realize what is happening, but I got the impression you are telling us that we are maneouvring too fast. "Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast."

Yeah. No I don't mean you are moving too fast. I'm just saying that obviously my troops would not just sit there. After a while they would have to know. No you guys are doing fine. There is really not a problem, just that you are asking me to do something unrealistic. It doesn't make any sense to have them sit there after a while. They must have realized it by now.

[Muldinith]

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[Valentir]

Valentir, you don't have to change. I said I would decide tomorrow as I am doing homework. I don't have time to read over your app and see if anything is wrong. You can still be whoever you want.

I want to be Crimean, and Alleniana you attack me then I will have support you did not accept. And Muldinth thats fine. I made it short but that is your choice. Thanks for allowing me back in.

[Alleniana]

Valentir, you don't have to change. I said I would decide tomorrow as I am doing homework. I don't have time to read over your app and see if anything is wrong. You can still be whoever you want.

I want to be Crimean, and Alleniana you attack me then I will have support you did not accept. And Muldinth thats fine. I made it short but that is your choice. Thanks for allowing me back in.

What I got from taht was "I am going to attack you because I have support"....
What?

I didn't say that they wouldn't realize what is happening, but I got the impression you are telling us that we are maneouvring too fast. "Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast."

Yeah. No I don't mean you are moving too fast. I'm just saying that obviously my troops would not just sit there. After a while they would have to know. No you guys are doing fine. There is really not a problem, just that you are asking me to do something unrealistic. It doesn't make any sense to have them sit there after a while. They must have realized it by now.

I didn't actually ask you to do anything except for RP a bit of confusion as it sounded like your soldiers saw the betrayal and took ti in their stride, instantly beginning to reform. Other tahn that, I was just askign whether you wanted me and Poland to slow down.

[Muldinith]

No. Not by any means. You are doing fine.

[The Jonathanian States]

In England, and the Farmlands above the Cities near the Border of Scotland, an Army is being raised, with over 200,000 men enlisted and Drafted. Those that are in the Army are put through hell up here. King Alfred II wants his men fit for battle whenever the time comes, and wants his Trainers and Generals to train the recruits to a T. off the Coast of Ireland in the Irish sea, a Strong Navy with 100,000 English men training on the many Warships, as the soldiers do Horses. Learning of these progresses King Alfred starts to write a letter.

To: King James Stewart II

From: King Alfred II

Hello My friend, I see what is going on, and the way you think of us, and I would like to change it. I am proposing an alliance to you. After all, we are only so close. A Dual protection is vital to these Isles, and offer my friendship to you, so these Isles can stay strong. If you want to hold a meeting, we can meet at our border. I propose open trading, alliance, and a military treaty that swears protection to each other. Think about it my friend.

SIncerely,
King Alfred II

How many ships do you have?
Or how many soldiers do you have on each ship?
Venice had around 3,300 ships,which was,as far as I know,the largest navy,and had 36,000 soldiers for them.

[Landenburg]

England is trying to recruit 300k -__-
While I am fine with the troops, if his pop can support them, I see a problem in funding.

[Valentir]

Yes that would wreak his economy no doubt. I fully object to it.

[Alleniana]

I agree. Not to try and make myself look powerful or anything, but even I can only support around 200,000 at most (excluding militias for when like, Istanbul is in danger). How can England, a much smaller island with much more disunity have 300k?

[The Jonathanian States]

Allen,I'm not sure,but hasn't the boom stuff already be cleared?
There'd be no possible way for a boom that long.


EDIT:
Metal reinforced log?
I'm pretty sure that wont stay above water,and would rather sink.