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Postby Alleniana » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:57 am

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Pavlostani wrote:Country Name: Principality of Great Russia
Leader Name: Pavel Pavlovich, Grand Prince
Short bio of Country or Leader: In the late 1400s, Kiev was ruled by a despot named Ivan III. Understandably, the Principality fell into turmoil. Several principalities split away, forming the coalition of Great Russia. Russian troops, led by Pavel Pavlovich of the Pereyaslavl Principality were initially defeated, first at the Battle of Donnets, where Kieven troops routed the Russians, then at the Battle of Chernihiv, where Pavel himself was struck with a quarrel from a crossbow. While escorting their beloved leader to safety, the Kievens managed to surround Russian troops.

Spring brought new promises to the failing state, as Pavel recovered from his wounds at Chernihiv. He remounted his rebellion, and in a stroke of brilliance, decimated Kieven supply lines and began a blockade of the city. As the Kievens slowly starved, a Kieven ambassador came to Pavel and negotiated the surrender of Kiev. Pavel assumed the throne, taking the title: "Tsar."

A new era of expansionism began, as Pavel struggled to rebuild the shattered nation. And now, as he prepares for his invasions south, while the nation prepares for raids from the Kazan Khanates in the north, the final vestiges of the Revolution are ready as Pavel plans the execution of Ivan III.

Pavel was born in Sochi, in the Crimea. From a young age, Pavel was disturbed by the atrocities committed by the cossacks and oprichniki in the name of the Prince. Later in his life, he would tell about a scene as a child, "The Oprichniki came in the night. My father was falsely accused of disturbing the peace. They... they tortured him before my mom and I. I will never forget the sight of their whips. His body was found hanging from a tree the next day. I have seen the work of a despot, and I hate it."

Pavel enrolled in a university in the Holy Roman Empire, the funds leaving his mother broke. Unable to pay the debt, the Oprichniki came for her as well. Pavel has been haunted his entire life, knowing that it was his fault she died.

Pavel originally was a monk, in a monastery outside of Luhans'k, and was disturbed by his horrifying past. He began gathering followers, speaking out against the Prince. When the Oprichnika were sent after them to silence the rabble, they fought back, and so began the Revolution.
Location on map (color and/or geographical region):
Population (be realistic): Nine million
Military Size in Percentage (Must not go over 5% during peacetime): 112,500 (1.25 percent)
Capital: Kiev
Type of Government: Tsardom (Absolute monarchy)
Other Info: Still recovering from a war, and desperately searching for new resources.

I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be based on history up to the date of th end of Byzantium.

So I'd say,no,
Unless Muldinith has an other opinion in the matter.......

Yeah, I agree
make him do something OTHER than Russia :eek:

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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:09 am

Besides, isn't max starting military population 100k?
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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:45 am

A united Russia will not be permitted. Make another app
"Et tu, Brutus?"

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:13 am

Rhodes belonged to the knights of Rhodes(Knights Hospitaller).
I dont think a crusade without them would make sence.
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Postby Anarchist States Of America » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:11 pm

Country Name: Kingdom of England and Ireland
Leader Name: King Alfred II
Short bio of Country or Leader: King Alfred is in a long line of Kings, and understands what is going in the world. He believes that Peace with france is vital, and also believes that a Crusade could be underway soon, and would love to ride with the Crusaders.
Location on map (color and/or geographical region): England and Ireland
Population (be realistic): 2 million
Military Size in Percentage (Must not go over 5% during peacetime): 4.5 %
Capital: London
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Other Info: Strong when fighting, friendly when peaceful, but eyes always open.
Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: 4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92
DEFCON: [5] 4 3 2 1
Pro- Republicanism, Capitalism, Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism, Old Right Conservatism, Fusionism ,USA (most of the time), UK, UKIP (sometimes), GOP (sometimes), Libertarian Party, Individualism, God made Evolution, Pandeism,Deism

Anti- Totalitarianism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism/Corporatism, Collectivism, Modern Liberalism, Dems, GOP (sometimes), United Nations, European Union
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:25 pm

Anarchist States Of America wrote:Country Name: Kingdom of England and Ireland
Leader Name: King Alfred II
Short bio of Country or Leader: King Alfred is in a long line of Kings, and understands what is going in the world. He believes that Peace with france is vital, and also believes that a Crusade could be underway soon, and would love to ride with the Crusaders.
Location on map (color and/or geographical region): England and Ireland
Population (be realistic): 2 million
Military Size in Percentage (Must not go over 5% during peacetime): 4.5 %
Capital: London
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Other Info: Strong when fighting, friendly when peaceful, but eyes always open.

I'm pro.
Muldinith your opinion?

Also,If we're already at apps,I'm just wondering,do I even influence that too,or do you prefer doing that alone?
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Postby Anarchist States Of America » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:26 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Anarchist States Of America wrote:Country Name: Kingdom of England and Ireland
Leader Name: King Alfred II
Short bio of Country or Leader: King Alfred is in a long line of Kings, and understands what is going in the world. He believes that Peace with france is vital, and also believes that a Crusade could be underway soon, and would love to ride with the Crusaders.
Location on map (color and/or geographical region): England and Ireland
Population (be realistic): 2 million
Military Size in Percentage (Must not go over 5% during peacetime): 4.5 %
Capital: London
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Other Info: Strong when fighting, friendly when peaceful, but eyes always open.

I'm pro.
Muldinith your opinion?

Also,If we're already at apps,I'm just wondering,do I even influence that too,or do you prefer doing that alone?


Influnce what? the Crusades?
Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: 4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92
DEFCON: [5] 4 3 2 1
Pro- Republicanism, Capitalism, Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism, Old Right Conservatism, Fusionism ,USA (most of the time), UK, UKIP (sometimes), GOP (sometimes), Libertarian Party, Individualism, God made Evolution, Pandeism,Deism

Anti- Totalitarianism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism/Corporatism, Collectivism, Modern Liberalism, Dems, GOP (sometimes), United Nations, European Union
Wonderlic Score: 28, as good as Peyton Manning

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:37 pm

Anarchist States Of America wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:I'm pro.
Muldinith your opinion?

Also,If we're already at apps,I'm just wondering,do I even influence that too,or do you prefer doing that alone?


Influnce what? the Crusades?

No,Im talking 'bout the app/apps in total.
He made me Co-Op and I was/am asking about if he prefers accepting/denying the apps alone(which would render comments like the one above,or the one I had at the recent app,unessesary),or if he prefers my helping/deciding too/recommending etc.
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Postby Anarchist States Of America » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:40 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Anarchist States Of America wrote:
Influnce what? the Crusades?

No,Im talking 'bout the app/apps in total.
He made me Co-Op and I was/am asking about if he prefers accepting/denying the apps alone(which would render comments like the one above,or the one I had at the recent app,unessesary),or if he prefers my helping/deciding too/recommending etc.


Yeah a little help wouldn't be bad.
Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: 4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92
DEFCON: [5] 4 3 2 1
Pro- Republicanism, Capitalism, Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism, Old Right Conservatism, Fusionism ,USA (most of the time), UK, UKIP (sometimes), GOP (sometimes), Libertarian Party, Individualism, God made Evolution, Pandeism,Deism

Anti- Totalitarianism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism/Corporatism, Collectivism, Modern Liberalism, Dems, GOP (sometimes), United Nations, European Union
Wonderlic Score: 28, as good as Peyton Manning

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Postby Thanatttynia » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:51 pm

Just so it's clear with all you guys, I am deliberately trying to stir up a war here :)
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Postby Landenburg » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:01 pm

Problems with the "new" UK guy.

1. France is NOT at war with England. 100 years war is over.
2. Don't we already have an England?
3. UK was not completely formed till like 1709 (addition of Scotland)
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Postby Valentir » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:03 pm

Hello, sorry I caused a major problem, it will not happen again. And I'm on my phone so I cannot make an app but I will when I get home. And sorry Muldinuth for the morocco problem it will not happen again. Sorry and thanks.

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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:04 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Anarchist States Of America wrote:
Influnce what? the Crusades?

No,Im talking 'bout the app/apps in total.
He made me Co-Op and I was/am asking about if he prefers accepting/denying the apps alone(which would render comments like the one above,or the one I had at the recent app,unessesary),or if he prefers my helping/deciding too/recommending etc.

Yes, Jon may decide in apps.

Yeah 100 years war is a no. And there is no united Britain.
Basically all united countries don't exist yet.
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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:08 pm

To Allen and the Poland Guy,

You truly can not expect my guys just to be sitting ducks. Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast. The miles long lines would have seen you marching, changing sides, and have had to react, albeit not like they knew what was coming. Additionally, I stated most of the rest of my units were positioned behind the hills a mile from the main battle line. I believe your proportions therefore are skewed. We are talking thousands of men. So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger, to kill thousands of my men, who may or may not be 'sitting ducks' , and where most of them are behind the lines, completely aware of their surroundings. I don't think so.
"Et tu, Brutus?"

Beware the Ides of March.

"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."

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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:10 pm

And also, I think we kind of all have a say in the passing of time. So just let it flow. But I believe in battles, it freezes. So after this battle we'll be able to change the year.
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Postby Elerian » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:25 pm

Muldinith wrote:To Allen and the Poland Guy,

You truly can not expect my guys just to be sitting ducks. Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast. The miles long lines would have seen you marching, changing sides, and have had to react, albeit not like they knew what was coming. Additionally, I stated most of the rest of my units were positioned behind the hills a mile from the main battle line. I believe your proportions therefore are skewed. We are talking thousands of men. So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger, to kill thousands of my men, who may or may not be 'sitting ducks' , and where most of them are behind the lines, completely aware of their surroundings. I don't think so.


I don't really understand what your saying? what do you mean "So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger" and so on?

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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:32 pm

Elerian wrote:
Muldinith wrote:To Allen and the Poland Guy,

You truly can not expect my guys just to be sitting ducks. Blitzkrieg wasn't fully developed, even in the 15th century, so you couldn't have come on that fast. The miles long lines would have seen you marching, changing sides, and have had to react, albeit not like they knew what was coming. Additionally, I stated most of the rest of my units were positioned behind the hills a mile from the main battle line. I believe your proportions therefore are skewed. We are talking thousands of men. So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger, to kill thousands of my men, who may or may not be 'sitting ducks' , and where most of them are behind the lines, completely aware of their surroundings. I don't think so.


I don't really understand what your saying? what do you mean "So if you really expect a small attack, that may grow larger" and so on?

You obviously haven't committed your main force. And I have my forntlines composed of atleast half of my entire army. The attacks haven't grown to include your entire army, but they may, depending on your intentions. So I will not RP tremendous casualties because these factors make it nearly impossible for me to do so. You may annhilate this force, but I will not go out without a fight. Expecting 5000 men to drop dead, cause they 'didn't see it coming' is unrealistic and naive, and I will not do it. I'll resist it at every attempt, and urge every player to adopt a realistic viewpoint on military strategy as a whole. And read some history. Also, FYI, battles could last days, so you still got time. Hold your horses, get your panties out a bunch. It is just a game.
"Et tu, Brutus?"

Beware the Ides of March.

"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."

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Postby Landenburg » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:32 pm

I don't want to deal with Portugal anymore.
They just contradicted their statements so many fucking times it's ridiculous.

"Mohammedean threat."
*tries to ally poland, which has been excommunicated and fights for the ottomans*

Portugal, get your fucking act together.
You claim you support Christendom and then try to ally Poland and don't even support the Crusades.
And should I remind you that you are also fighting for landgrants?
How about YOU go and fight the Mohammedan Infidels.
It's going to look awfully good for me, as I have lent FIFTY-THOUSAND for the crusades.

You guys have no fucking idea how much that last post pissed me off.
Like, you aren't even getting into the roleplay.
Catholics would be scared to death of being excommunicated.
Alas yonder woman, damn you tempt me with thy saucy bosom
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Please haste hither & quench this torment fairest maiden
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Postby Elerian » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:36 pm

? ok well I don't see why you have to be mean about it. But I was just stating that before it seemed like they acted almost immediately. Then you and I resolved it now your bringing it up again.
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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:36 pm

Landenburg wrote:I don't want to deal with Portugal anymore.
They just contradicted their statements so many fucking times it's ridiculous.

"Mohammedean threat."
*tries to ally poland, which has been excommunicated and fights for the ottomans*

Portugal, get your fucking act together.
You claim you support Christendom and then try to ally Poland and don't even support the Crusades.
And should I remind you that you are also fighting for landgrants?
How about YOU go and fight the Mohammedan Infidels.
It's going to look awfully good for me, as I have lent FIFTY-THOUSAND for the crusades.

You guys have no fucking idea how much that last post pissed me off.
Like, you aren't even getting into the roleplay.
Catholics would be scared to death of being excommunicated.


.... I won't say a thing :twisted:
"Et tu, Brutus?"

Beware the Ides of March.

"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."

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Postby Landenburg » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Muldinith wrote:
Landenburg wrote:I don't want to deal with Portugal anymore.
They just contradicted their statements so many fucking times it's ridiculous.

"Mohammedean threat."
*tries to ally poland, which has been excommunicated and fights for the ottomans*

Portugal, get your fucking act together.
You claim you support Christendom and then try to ally Poland and don't even support the Crusades.
And should I remind you that you are also fighting for landgrants?
How about YOU go and fight the Mohammedan Infidels.
It's going to look awfully good for me, as I have lent FIFTY-THOUSAND for the crusades.

You guys have no fucking idea how much that last post pissed me off.
Like, you aren't even getting into the roleplay.
Catholics would be scared to death of being excommunicated.


.... I won't say a thing :twisted:

Portugal might as well call a protestant reformation, they don't seem catholic
Alas yonder woman, damn you tempt me with thy saucy bosom
thus methinks I shall bestow my codpiece in thee & make naughty love to my lady all night
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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Elerian wrote:
You obviously haven't committed your main force. And I have my forntlines composed of atleast half of my entire army. The attacks haven't grown to include your entire army, but they may, depending on your intentions. So I will not RP tremendous casualties because these factors make it nearly impossible for me to do so. You may annhilate this force, but I will not go out without a fight. Expecting 5000 men to drop dead, cause they 'didn't see it coming' is unrealistic and naive, and I will not do it. I'll resist it at every attempt, and urge every player to adopt a realistic viewpoint on military strategy as a whole. And read some history. Also, FYI, battles could last days, so you still got time. Hold your horses, get your panties out a bunch. It is just a game.[/quote]

? ok well I don't see why you have to be mean about it. But I was just stating that before it seemed like they acted almost immediately. Then you and I resolved it now your bringing it up again.[/quote]

Oh on the contrary, like Jon , I have a knack for realism and historical facts. So forgive me if I came on too strong. This post wasn't even meant for you. Allen brought this up again in his last few posts. I addressed this to you because you are his ally. Sorry if you felt 'patronized'. 'Twas not my intention.


Portugal might as well call a protestant reformation, they don't seem catholic

LMAO!
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Beware the Ides of March.

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Postby Elerian » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Alright thank you for clarifying.

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Postby Elerian » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Landenburg wrote:I don't want to deal with Portugal anymore.
They just contradicted their statements so many fucking times it's ridiculous.

"Mohammedean threat."
*tries to ally poland, which has been excommunicated and fights for the ottomans*

Portugal, get your fucking act together.
You claim you support Christendom and then try to ally Poland and don't even support the Crusades.
And should I remind you that you are also fighting for landgrants?
How about YOU go and fight the Mohammedan Infidels.
It's going to look awfully good for me, as I have lent FIFTY-THOUSAND for the crusades.

You guys have no fucking idea how much that last post pissed me off.
Like, you aren't even getting into the roleplay.
Catholics would be scared to death of being excommunicated.



It's just a game :meh:

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Postby Muldinith » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:42 pm

Lol. This is why I can laugh about it.
"Et tu, Brutus?"

Beware the Ides of March.

"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."

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