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Postby Olthar » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:33 pm

Nude East Ireland wrote:
Olthar wrote:I don't see how that would spontaneously change everyone's deeply-held political beliefs.

George Washington saved us from Brits and people claim that he was some non-lying American Christ.

Clint Eastwood saved us from Demons - actual Demons. Don't you think he would get a heroic status like Washington did, if not more (DEMONS!)

Sure, Eastwood is certainly going to be seen as a hero, but there's a big difference between "I think this one Republican is a great guy" and "I am now going to suddenly revoke all of my previously-held beliefs and begin supporting things I once hated."
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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:34 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I might just be making these vague posts to give NEI fodder for considering Richard the ultimate villain.

Which he totally fucking is.
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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:34 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:George Washington saved us from Brits and people claim that he was some non-lying American Christ.

Clint Eastwood saved us from Demons - actual Demons. Don't you think he would get a heroic status like Washington did, if not more (DEMONS!)

Sure, Eastwood is certainly going to be seen as a hero, but there's a big difference between "I think this one Republican is a great guy" and "I am now going to suddenly revoke all of my previously-held beliefs and begin supporting things I once hated."

More like "This guy and his friends saved the world. Let's keep them in office."
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:35 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:George Washington saved us from Brits and people claim that he was some non-lying American Christ.

Clint Eastwood saved us from Demons - actual Demons. Don't you think he would get a heroic status like Washington did, if not more (DEMONS!)

Sure, Eastwood is certainly going to be seen as a hero, but there's a big difference between "I think this one Republican is a great guy" and "I am now going to suddenly revoke all of my previously-held beliefs and begin supporting things I once hated."

No - but people are going to vote for whoever he recommends.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:35 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I might just be making these vague posts to give NEI fodder for considering Richard the ultimate villain.

Which he totally fucking is.

Alright everyone, I have a confession.

Richard is actually Osama Bin Laden.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:35 pm

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Olthar wrote:I can tell that's supposed to be a joke, but I don't see what's ridiculous about it. Roosevelt and Truman saved the world from Nazis, yet the whole of America didn't spontaneously become Democrats.

Except that a.) the Nazis were nowhere near taking over America and b.) the Nazis had only existed for a decade. We've been hating demons for at least 2000 years - more if you count per-Christian religions.

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Speaking of Washington, he likely exists in Hell.

With his absurd luck, I doubt he's dead again.

Washington owns the third of Hell we've not been to, obviously.

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Are you actually arguing that the average American voter is so easily manipulated that he will vote for the Guy Who Saved the World regardless of how shitty his platform is? Isn't that a little pessimistic? :p

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:35 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:Which he totally fucking is.

Alright everyone, I have a confession.

Richard is actually Osama Bin Laden.

Oh shit.

BARACK, GET DOWN!
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Postby Liriena » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:36 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:Which he totally fucking is.

Alright everyone, I have a confession.

Richard is actually Osama Bin Laden.


I saw it coming. :meh:
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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:36 pm

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Nude East Ireland wrote:Which he totally fucking is.

Alright everyone, I have a confession.

Richard is actually Osama Bin Laden.

Osama Bin Laden will be in my D&D RP.

Well, once more people sign up. D:
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Postby Olthar » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:36 pm

Nude East Ireland wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure, Eastwood is certainly going to be seen as a hero, but there's a big difference between "I think this one Republican is a great guy" and "I am now going to suddenly revoke all of my previously-held beliefs and begin supporting things I once hated."

More like "This guy and his friends saved the world. Let's keep them in office."

That exactly falls into the first situation and not the second. News Flash: You don't have to be a Republican to vote for them. You can support a guy outside your own party. You can think Eastwood deserves to be in office while still very much being a Democrat.
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Postby Olthar » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:37 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure, Eastwood is certainly going to be seen as a hero, but there's a big difference between "I think this one Republican is a great guy" and "I am now going to suddenly revoke all of my previously-held beliefs and begin supporting things I once hated."

No - but people are going to vote for whoever he recommends.

So? How does that make everyone spontaneously become Republicans?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:38 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:No - but people are going to vote for whoever he recommends.

So? How does that make everyone spontaneously become Republicans?

It doesn't, but it does make the party far more popular, especially since they dropped most socially conservative ideas for libertarianism. Eastwood IRL is a libertarian atheist himself.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:38 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:More like "This guy and his friends saved the world. Let's keep them in office."

That exactly falls into the first situation and not the second. News Flash: You don't have to be a Republican to vote for them. You can support a guy outside your own party. You can think Eastwood deserves to be in office while still very much being a Democrat.

Yes.

Except Eastwood's bodies are all Republicans, thus a vote for Eastwood's pals = a vote for a Republican.

So the Republicans control the Fed.

Also, Republicans live and breath patriotism. And the country is going to be eating that shit up when AMERICA SAVES THE WORLD, FUCK YEAH!
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:39 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:No - but people are going to vote for whoever he recommends.

So? How does that make everyone spontaneously become Republicans?

I agree. It makes everyone a Communist.

Or a Mormon. Either way, America is fucked.
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Postby The Inritus Extraho » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:39 pm

I'm back! (And skipping 114 OOC pages, and 5 IC pages).

Could I get a summary of the assault so far? I stopped when Crowley pulled out. //noinnuendointended
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The Inritus Extraho wrote:I'm back! (And skipping 114 OOC pages, and 5 IC pages).

Could I get a summary of the assault so far? I stopped when Crowley pulled out. //noinnuendointended

Could have sworn you said, "I'm black!"
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Postby Constaniana » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:39 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure, Eastwood is certainly going to be seen as a hero, but there's a big difference between "I think this one Republican is a great guy" and "I am now going to suddenly revoke all of my previously-held beliefs and begin supporting things I once hated."

No - but people are going to vote for whoever he recommends.

"This old guy I like had a role in saving the world, so I'm going to make every single one of my politcal beliefs line up with his, and that of this guy I don't who who the old guy recommends."
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:40 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:No - but people are going to vote for whoever he recommends.

"This old guy I like had a role in saving the world, so I'm going to make every single one of my politico beliefs line up with his, and that of this guy I don't who who the old guy recommends."

Propaganda rules the world. Don't pretend otherwise.

And there's no better propaganda piece than "THE GUY WHO SAVED THE HUMAN RACE IS VOTING FOR ME!"
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Postby The Inritus Extraho » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:41 pm

Nat, I hate you. I can't resist doing everything in tempo and rythym to that damn song.
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Postby Olthar » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:41 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:That exactly falls into the first situation and not the second. News Flash: You don't have to be a Republican to vote for them. You can support a guy outside your own party. You can think Eastwood deserves to be in office while still very much being a Democrat.

Yes.

Except Eastwood's bodies are all Republicans, thus a vote for Eastwood's pals = a vote for a Republican.

So the Republicans control the Fed.

Also, Republicans live and breath patriotism. And the country is going to be eating that shit up when AMERICA SAVES THE WORLD, FUCK YEAH!

So, you're backpedaling. Gotcha.

I really have no desire to continue this. I'm getting hungry.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:42 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Constaniana wrote:"This old guy I like had a role in saving the world, so I'm going to make every single one of my politico beliefs line up with his, and that of this guy I don't who who the old guy recommends."

Propaganda rules the world. Don't pretend otherwise.

And there's no better propaganda piece than "THE GUY WHO SAVED THE HUMAN RACE IS VOTING FOR ME!"

Sanchez is the other guy who gets the credit and he's Republican as well.
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# went there....

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:42 pm

[quote="Olthar";p="13002329"]
So, you're backpedaling./quote]
Olthar, for fuck's sake, I don't come here to have debates with you.
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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:42 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Constaniana wrote:"This old guy I like had a role in saving the world, so I'm going to make every single one of my politico beliefs line up with his, and that of this guy I don't who who the old guy recommends."

Propaganda rules the world. Don't pretend otherwise.

And there's no better propaganda piece than "THE GUY WHO SAVED THE HUMAN RACE IS VOTING FOR ME!"

"Senator Ronald Carter is a strong-willed, elegant, informed, and brave leader. BUT CLINT EASTWOOD SAVED THE FUCKING WORLD! AMERICA! USA! USA! USA!

This message is brought to you by 'Eastwood for President'."
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:44 pm

Nude East Ireland wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Propaganda rules the world. Don't pretend otherwise.

And there's no better propaganda piece than "THE GUY WHO SAVED THE HUMAN RACE IS VOTING FOR ME!"

"Senator Ronald Carter is a strong-willed, elegant, informed, and brave leader. BUT CLINT EASTWOOD SAVED THE FUCKING WORLD! AMERICA! USA! USA! USA!

This message is brought to you by 'Eastwood for President'."

To be honest, it's entirely likely people will do this.

I mean, look at Harrison. He just went with full propaganda and not giving any of his real opinions and he beat Van Buren in a landslide.

And don't even get me started on Parliamentary democracies, which are pretty much entirely based around who is the best seller.
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Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Olthar » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:44 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Olthar wrote:So, you're backpedaling.

Olthar, for fuck's sake, I don't come here to have debates with you.

Olthar wrote:I really have no desire to continue this. I'm getting hungry.
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