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[Liecthenbourg]

Speaking of Melas where is he? I have not seen him for quite some time.

[The Jonathanian States]

Speaking of Melas(I know he has other profiles) where is he? I have not seen him for quite some time.

Melas has been deleted.

Our current byzantium player is Drak.

I have no idea,he said he´s going to be a bit inactive for a while.....

But then today I saw him on an rp I applied for......

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

G, like I said before, the Chernigov Corridor is still marked as Great Russia. It was never switched to Kievan control.

[G-Tech Corporation]

G, like I said before, the Chernigov Corridor is still marked as Great Russia. It was never switched to Kievan control.

Oh right herp.

Sorry, this is why I asked what needed to be changed haha, I only have so much brain space.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Quite a bit, did you get my TG? And me and Pisa are BFF's and have set up and massive discount trade and Military alliance.

Yes, I got it.

Just started reading the IC.
SInce when is Florence a Basileia,or whatever the statenoun of basileus is.

No,you arent.
You cant escape a siege without a battle.
Which reminds me,start answering to the siege rp´s.

he never escape the siege he wasn't in Florence if you look in the IC Drako invited me to constantinople

[Valentir]

EDIT2:
Just remembered another thing.
Thats no real issue,but why is he called "Titus Mede II",if he is the first?

I have no idea. I just like the name. So is Drake gone ans is England still around and also how did I get this one part on the coast in Toulouse?

[G-Tech Corporation]

EDIT2:
Just remembered another thing.
Thats no real issue,but why is he called "Titus Mede II",if he is the first?

I have no idea. I just like the name. So is Drake gone ans is England still around and also how did I get this one part on the coast in Toulouse?

You were attacking Aragon, no?

[Valentir]

I have no idea. I just like the name. So is Drake gone ans is England still around and also how did I get this one part on the coast in Toulouse?

You were attacking Aragon, no?

I was, but NVM, if england makes a big deal about (most likely to happen) just change it.

[Alleniana]

And the updated map is hur.

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy16 ... e3618c.png

Not big deal, but you marked the Protectorate/Laodicea wrong, it's a strip from Armenia to KoJ

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Then since Cumania is bein leveled, may I take the Almohads?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Then since Cumania is bein leveled, may I take the Almohads?

Sure, post away.

IC link is in the OP.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Sweet. Will the new map come soon? (I don't want to post anything out of lore.)

[Valentir]

Sweet. Will the new map come soon? (I don't want to post anything out of lore.)

Its in the OOC first post as well as the IC first post. But use the one on the page before this one. Its the most up to date one.

[Alleniana]

Almohad will be a useful player...

[The Jonathanian States]

Almohad will be a useful player...

Yep.

Then since Cumania is bein leveled, may I take the Almohads?

Yes.

And the updated map is hur.

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy16 ... e3618c.png

Not big deal, but you marked the Protectorate/Laodicea wrong, it's a strip from Armenia to KoJ

He didn't change anything there at all.
Also,how is it a strip from KoJ to Armenia?
You only fought around the city,so it only makes sence if that's what you have,doesn't it?

[Alleniana]

The rest is essentially desert so I took it and fortified it. Laodicea (Latakia today) was the largest town and even then it wasn't very big. Its port was dismantled a few years back (before the RP), and it's pretty hard to dismantle a port, and since it was a trading city, if its port could be simply dismantled, figured it couldn't be very big.

[The Jonathanian States]

The rest is essentially desert so I took it and fortified it. Laodicea (Latakia today) was the largest town and even then it wasn't very big. Its port was dismantled a few years back (before the RP), and it's pretty hard to dismantle a port, and since it was a trading city, if its port could be simply dismantled, figured it couldn't be very big.

It wasn't so small,I think,but acre simply took its role as port city.
And not everything around there is desert.
And as far as I saw you never fortified it.

[Alleniana]

Not fortify, but occupy. Wrong word.
In history, a fleet of about 29 or something stormed it a while back I used like 50.

[Olthenia]

Aragon begins the slow task of Reconquista against complacent Aragon Almohads, aided by Castille. A French force marches south and razes the city of Valencia with great loss of life.

I'm not sure that last part actually happened. Valentir wrote that it had, at first, but then said the siege was still ongoing when him and I opened negotiations a few pages back. My last IC post reflects what I take to be the current reality.

Also, welcome aboard, Mauretania! It'll be great to finally have an Almohad player.

[The Jonathanian States]

Aragon begins the slow task of Reconquista against complacent Aragon Almohads, aided by Castille. A French force marches south and razes the city of Valencia with great loss of life.

I'm not sure that last part actually happened. Valentir wrote that it had, at first, but then said the siege was still ongoing when him and I opened negotiations a few pages back. My last IC post reflects what I take to be the current reality.

Also, welcome aboard, Mauretania! It'll be great to finally have an Almohad player.

That reminds me.,
G-Tech,the french addition in the south you have taken from england,not aragon,he didnt declare war on england so it isnt possible.

[The Jonathanian States]

Lorraine Border, France
General Tullius put his two legions in Battle Formation and marched them across the border into the Holy Roman Empire. Titus had sent Tullius to take Lorraine and then Luxembourg and then Burgundy. Titus also marched General Francis from his return trip from Iberia to the Burgundy border and had him invade from there. Titus also called out 10,000 citizen soldiers and had General Louis and four legions with 20,000 men invade at the center point of the Holy Roman Empire. Titus was confident that he could take on the Germans. They were not united and he had superior armor and weapons and some of the best heavy infantry and horsemen and mighty commanders. France however was not rich but it was not poor. Titus needed money to help him build the new Arena and Palace he wanted to build in Dijon. So Titus raised tariffs on all merchants except those of Pisa and wrote a trade deal and sent it to Venice.

Dear Venetian Duke, I Emperor Titus Mede II of France will offer you exclusive trade rights to spices for a 15% increase in the price on all French Goods. Sincerely Titus Mede II

Titus also opened up steel refineries and had steel longswords, steel armor, and yew bows made and began to rearm the French Army. France was on a new path and only time could tell if France would succeed or not..........

I thought you're not sure if you abandon france?
Citizen Soldiers?Do you mean Militia?
Explain to me why/from where you have superior armour and arms?
And no,france was only famous for its heavy cavalry,not its heavy infantry,for which the german states were renown.
But the problem is,we're before the rise of real heavy cavalry,so Im not sure of how much frenchmen would be better.....
And when foreigners attacked the emperor "collected" soldiers from the various places and often the vassals would send armies too,if it is in their interest,which it is for all on the western border.

Well,including the reign of your last monarchs,I'd say it is poor with a tendency for better,but not too poor.

This is roleplay,not gameplay,generals dont matter too much.

And,now something as rper:
You burnt down the venetian palace in dijon and think venice'll help you build yourself a new one?
Somehow it seems all french kings tend to think venice is their personal piggybank.
Nothing is free,and every action gives a reaction.....

[Valentir]

Lorraine Border, France
General Tullius put his two legions in Battle Formation and marched them across the border into the Holy Roman Empire. Titus had sent Tullius to take Lorraine and then Luxembourg and then Burgundy. Titus also marched General Francis from his return trip from Iberia to the Burgundy border and had him invade from there. Titus also called out 10,000 citizen soldiers and had General Louis and four legions with 20,000 men invade at the center point of the Holy Roman Empire. Titus was confident that he could take on the Germans. They were not united and he had superior armor and weapons and some of the best heavy infantry and horsemen and mighty commanders. France however was not rich but it was not poor. Titus needed money to help him build the new Arena and Palace he wanted to build in Dijon. So Titus raised tariffs on all merchants except those of Pisa and wrote a trade deal and sent it to Venice.

Dear Venetian Duke, I Emperor Titus Mede II of France will offer you exclusive trade rights to spices for a 15% increase in the price on all French Goods. Sincerely Titus Mede II

Titus also opened up steel refineries and had steel longswords, steel armor, and yew bows made and began to rearm the French Army. France was on a new path and only time could tell if France would succeed or not..........

I thought you're not sure if you abandon france?
Citizen Soldiers?Do you mean Militia?
Explain to me why/from where you have superior armour and arms?
And no,france was only famous for its heavy cavalry,not its heavy infantry,for which the german states were renown.
But the problem is,we're before the rise of real heavy cavalry,so Im not sure of how much frenchmen would be better.....
And when foreigners attacked the emperor "collected" soldiers from the various places and often the vassals would send armies too,if it is in their interest,which it is for all on the western border.

Well,including the reign of your last monarchs,I'd say it is poor with a tendency for better,but not too poor.

This is roleplay,not gameplay,generals dont matter too much.

And,now something as rper:
You burnt down the venetian palace in dijon and think venice'll help you build yourself a new one?
Somehow it seems all french kings tend to think venice is their personal piggybank.
Nothing is free,and every action gives a reaction.....

On the arms and armor we have plated mail so it would be better than just mail but this is a very big debate topic. France had good chargers and we have healthy cavalry and we have armor on all our horses and good riders (France has historically very good riders and chargers.) So no trade deal, fine more money for Pisa. Citizen Soldiers are like militia but are well trained and armed as regular soldiers are in shape for war but are only active when the Emperor calls them out so he can save money in times of peace seeing as the High Nobles pay wages. Yes your right on the money issue thats what I said so I don't know why your re said it. And Titus is confident of his invasion because the Empire despite the HRE Emperor gathering soldiers, is still divided and Titus can easily bribe someone or make a German Civil War by helping the Emperor's Enemies and Contenders to the German throne. Also The German Emperor keep most of his soldiers in Italy and on the Polish border. He didn't fear France so he really didn't keep soldiers there. So it would take a few months for them to get to the front lines and thats enough time for me to take some of their territory and put in my soldiers on their fortifications. I'm completely sure in my invasion and will not cower out.

[The Jonathanian States]

I thought you're not sure if you abandon france?
Citizen Soldiers?Do you mean Militia?
Explain to me why/from where you have superior armour and arms?
And no,france was only famous for its heavy cavalry,not its heavy infantry,for which the german states were renown.
But the problem is,we're before the rise of real heavy cavalry,so Im not sure of how much frenchmen would be better.....
And when foreigners attacked the emperor "collected" soldiers from the various places and often the vassals would send armies too,if it is in their interest,which it is for all on the western border.

Well,including the reign of your last monarchs,I'd say it is poor with a tendency for better,but not too poor.

This is roleplay,not gameplay,generals dont matter too much.

And,now something as rper:
You burnt down the venetian palace in dijon and think venice'll help you build yourself a new one?
Somehow it seems all french kings tend to think venice is their personal piggybank.
Nothing is free,and every action gives a reaction.....

On the arms and armor we have plated mail so it would be better than just mail but this is a very big debate topic. France had good chargers and we have healthy cavalry and we have armor on all our horses and good riders (France has historically very good riders and chargers.) So no trade deal, fine more money for Pisa. Citizen Soldiers are like militia but are well trained and armed as regular soldiers are in shape for war but are only active when the Emperor calls them out so he can save money in times of peace seeing as the High Nobles pay wages. Yes your right on the money issue thats what I said so I don't know why your re said it. And Titus is confident of his invasion because the Empire despite the HRE Emperor gathering soldiers, is still divided and Titus can easily bribe someone or make a German Civil War by helping the Emperor's Enemies and Contenders to the German throne. Also The German Emperor keep most of his soldiers in Italy and on the Polish border. He didn't fear France so he really didn't keep soldiers there. So it would take a few months for them to get to the front lines and thats enough time for me to take some of their territory and put in my soldiers on their fortifications. I'm completely sure in my invasion and will not cower out.

Not really.
The opposite.
He didnt leave troops in Italy,as he granted it even larger autonomz than there was in germany.
A civil war wouldnt suddenly pop up,as nobody would follow somebody who just decided he's going to be emperor.
Cases of double-emperors onlly happened as disputes after deaths of emperors/on the decision of a new one,so it would be you,small nation,against rest of HRE.

Trade deal,ok,your choice,but that still doesnt help you with money....

Plated mail?
Appeared in the 15th century in east europe,so no,you dont have it.

CItizan Soldiers?
There's no such thing.
The only thing were levies,and they had equipment far from that of soldiers,and even less training.
ANd even if,to do such things,you would've needed to start the programm,and then wait a couple years for them training....
And for another 10,000 standard equipped soldiers to appear?Logistacaly impossible.

Horse armour,aslo known as Barding,only appeared in the late middle ages.

In regard to taking months,since when do you reflect the traveltime so accurately?

ANd for me repeating the money thing,ok,then that was a missunderstanding.

[Valentir]

On the arms and armor we have plated mail so it would be better than just mail but this is a very big debate topic. France had good chargers and we have healthy cavalry and we have armor on all our horses and good riders (France has historically very good riders and chargers.) So no trade deal, fine more money for Pisa. Citizen Soldiers are like militia but are well trained and armed as regular soldiers are in shape for war but are only active when the Emperor calls them out so he can save money in times of peace seeing as the High Nobles pay wages. Yes your right on the money issue thats what I said so I don't know why your re said it. And Titus is confident of his invasion because the Empire despite the HRE Emperor gathering soldiers, is still divided and Titus can easily bribe someone or make a German Civil War by helping the Emperor's Enemies and Contenders to the German throne. Also The German Emperor keep most of his soldiers in Italy and on the Polish border. He didn't fear France so he really didn't keep soldiers there. So it would take a few months for them to get to the front lines and thats enough time for me to take some of their territory and put in my soldiers on their fortifications. I'm completely sure in my invasion and will not cower out.

Not really.
The opposite.
He didnt leave troops in Italy,as he granted it even larger autonomz than there was in germany.
A civil war wouldnt suddenly pop up,as nobody would follow somebody who just decided he's going to be emperor.
Cases of double-emperors onlly happened as disputes after deaths of emperors/on the decision of a new one,so it would be you,small nation,against rest of HRE.

Trade deal,ok,your choice,but that still doesnt help you with money....

Plated mail?
Appeared in the 15th century in east europe,so no,you dont have it.

CItizan Soldiers?
There's no such thing.
The only thing were levies,and they had equipment far from that of soldiers,and even less training.
ANd even if,to do such things,you would've needed to start the programm,and then wait a couple years for them training....
And for another 10,000 standard equipped soldiers to appear?Logistacaly impossible.

Horse armour,aslo known as Barding,only appeared in the late middle ages.

In regard to taking months,since when do you reflect the traveltime so accurately?

ANd for me repeating the money thing,ok,then that was a missunderstanding.

NVM, I'll change the post. But my militia will be called Citizen Soldiers. And I will go through my invasion. And G-Tech could you be prepared to add Lorraine and Luxembourg and Burgundy to my territory. My invasion has begun!!!! MUHAHAHA

[The Jonathanian States]

Not really.
The opposite.
He didnt leave troops in Italy,as he granted it even larger autonomz than there was in germany.
A civil war wouldnt suddenly pop up,as nobody would follow somebody who just decided he's going to be emperor.
Cases of double-emperors onlly happened as disputes after deaths of emperors/on the decision of a new one,so it would be you,small nation,against rest of HRE.

Trade deal,ok,your choice,but that still doesnt help you with money....

Plated mail?
Appeared in the 15th century in east europe,so no,you dont have it.

CItizan Soldiers?
There's no such thing.
The only thing were levies,and they had equipment far from that of soldiers,and even less training.
ANd even if,to do such things,you would've needed to start the programm,and then wait a couple years for them training....
And for another 10,000 standard equipped soldiers to appear?Logistacaly impossible.

Horse armour,aslo known as Barding,only appeared in the late middle ages.

In regard to taking months,since when do you reflect the traveltime so accurately?

ANd for me repeating the money thing,ok,then that was a missunderstanding.

NVM, I'll change the post. But my militia will be called Citizen Soldiers. And I will go through my invasion. And G-Tech could you be prepared to add Lorraine and Luxembourg and Burgundy to my territory. My invasion has begun!!!! MUHAHAHA

The name doesnt matter.
But you need to found it,so you wot be able to use it now,as france didnt have a real militia between the gauls and Jean D'Arc.
Neither do your plans.
But just as a heads up,a machiavelli quote:¹

One always knows when one enters war,but one never knows when you finish it.

Or,to say in simpler words,invade france,but dont hope for ending it neither good,nor fast.
Be prepared to meet some germans at the border.

¹ - Im not sure it was machiavelli,but I think it was him.