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What should we do?

Make das reboot
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16%
Do not make das reboot
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4%
Make das reboot and fast forward
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12%
ego Karolus Magnus est.
3
12%
No das reboot and new OOC.
1
4%
No le reboot but timeskip and new threads.
6
24%
Venice is doing this only to conquer the world more easy :p
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28%
 
Total votes : 25

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The Jonathanian States
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:50 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:There ain't no Venetians in Kiev......
There ain't no Venetians in Byzantine......
There ain't no Venetians in the Black Sea......
There ain't no Venetians in Aegean.......
There ain't no Venetians from Kiev to the Aegean...........

Actually I still have the fleet in the aegean, not that you´d know about it IC, but it still is there.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:09 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:There ain't no Venetians in Kiev......
There ain't no Venetians in Byzantine......
There ain't no Venetians in the Black Sea......
There ain't no Venetians in Aegean.......
There ain't no Venetians from Kiev to the Aegean...........

Actually I still have the fleet in the aegean, not that you´d know about it IC, but it still is there.


How are you supplying them? By sea?
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The Jonathanian States
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:16 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Actually I still have the fleet in the aegean, not that you´d know about it IC, but it still is there.


How are you supplying them? By sea?

Yes.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:46 pm

Valentir wrote:
Black Marshes wrote:The King receives the French letter, and is appauled at how outrageous the French King can be. A letter is sent in reply:
"I have made two alliance offers, you denied both. I sent two peace confirmations, they were only signed when the Pope forced you to. You attacked the Holy Roman Empire, occupied Venice, vassalised Provence, betrayed Milan and tried to vassalise Blois, and you honestly think that I am going to trust you? I don't know what you have been drinking, but this is just ridiculous! England will not be joining this 'Western Catholic Brothers League', unless the Pope decrees it or you can convince us."

Dear King Julian, the French King is disappointed that you declined but understands. We will not convince and we will not make the Pope do so either. Our past mistakes are very deep and we were cowards then. If you change your mind please write us back, but until we consider relations Indifferent. We apologize for past grievances and we hope you understand our position. However we will have no further contact unless either of us are in dire need. And we will not be so happy should you declare war on us. Sincerely King Justin of France, Provence, Milan, and French Flanders.

Some issues.
a)You dont hold Milan, the rp of overlord has been ignored and you didnt invade it.
b)Flanders was a County(Graafschap)
c)Milan, even if you would hold it, is a duchy.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:51 pm

Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
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Postby Valentir » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:22 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Valentir wrote:
Dear King Julian, the French King is disappointed that you declined but understands. We will not convince and we will not make the Pope do so either. Our past mistakes are very deep and we were cowards then. If you change your mind please write us back, but until we consider relations Indifferent. We apologize for past grievances and we hope you understand our position. However we will have no further contact unless either of us are in dire need. And we will not be so happy should you declare war on us. Sincerely King Justin of France, Provence, Milan, and French Flanders.

Some issues.
a)You dont hold Milan, the rp of overlord has been ignored and you didnt invade it.
b)Flanders was a County(Graafschap)
c)Milan, even if you would hold it, is a duchy.

Really, it was a statement showing that france is more powerful than it is. I though you would see its also a slap in the face because he said I betrayed Milan. And I have an army headed there to take it anyways I know overlord's RP was ignored. We also have some land in flanders. look at map.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:52 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Defend?

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Valentir wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Why would I attack you? I am busy in The Khanates and soon Galicia.

Well your hostile in France's Eyes. That and you and your little buddies think they own the World. And Pisa, France is nice,Strong, and full of Energy. We are not weak.

Then why does England own most of your territory?
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The Jonathanian States
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:22 am

Valentir wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Some issues.
a)You dont hold Milan, the rp of overlord has been ignored and you didnt invade it.
b)Flanders was a County(Graafschap)
c)Milan, even if you would hold it, is a duchy.

Really, it was a statement showing that france is more powerful than it is. I though you would see its also a slap in the face because he said I betrayed Milan. And I have an army headed there to take it anyways I know overlord's RP was ignored. We also have some land in flanders. look at map.


I know you have lands in Flanders, but it (Flanders) is only a county, not a Kingdom.

You know that attacking Milan would be a provokation to all of Italy, dont you?
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:29 am

So any tips for my RP viewtopic.php?f=31&t=224278 ??
Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
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EU, communism, abortion, Greek/Turkish friendship, NATO, illegal immigration, Globalism, FYROM, gay marriage
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:08 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Valentir wrote:Really, it was a statement showing that france is more powerful than it is. I though you would see its also a slap in the face because he said I betrayed Milan. And I have an army headed there to take it anyways I know overlord's RP was ignored. We also have some land in flanders. look at map.


I know you have lands in Flanders, but it (Flanders) is only a county, not a Kingdom.

You know that attacking Milan would be a provokation to all of Italy, dont you?

and the Hre as it controls most of italy
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:17 am

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:
I know you have lands in Flanders, but it (Flanders) is only a county, not a Kingdom.

You know that attacking Milan would be a provokation to all of Italy, dont you?

and the Hre as it controls most of italy

Yep.I didnt think of it as the HRE has no player, but yes, that´d also be an attack on the HRE.
And while you are fighting against the Lombard League the West Germans or the Empire in total might try to use the chance for some nice land gobbling in france.
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Postby Valentir » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:11 pm

Ok Ok I'll top attacking the HRE, fracking vultures man. :evil:

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:03 pm

An arrow to the knee Inesea? Really?
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:56 am

Just saying the Italian republics should star compete with each other.If they dont capitalism as we know it might never EXIIIIIIST
Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
ABOUT ME:
Male, Greek Nationalist, Orthodox Christian, State Capitalist
EU, communism, abortion, Greek/Turkish friendship, NATO, illegal immigration, Globalism, FYROM, gay marriage
Enosis, Megali Idea, Putin, Guns, Nationalism, Equallity, Kurdistan, Assyria
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:27 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:Just saying the Italian republics should star compete with each other.If they dont capitalism as we know it might never EXIIIIIIST

Where´s the problem?
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:28 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:Just saying the Italian republics should star compete with each other.If they dont capitalism as we know it might never EXIIIIIIST

Where´s the problem?


Cause the Italian republics worked like buisness and compited in an Oligopolis fashion.You guys are just attacking each other or not even attacking.Please,fix that.DONT LET DEM COMMIES RULE
Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
ABOUT ME:
Male, Greek Nationalist, Orthodox Christian, State Capitalist
EU, communism, abortion, Greek/Turkish friendship, NATO, illegal immigration, Globalism, FYROM, gay marriage
Enosis, Megali Idea, Putin, Guns, Nationalism, Equallity, Kurdistan, Assyria
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:16 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Where´s the problem?


Cause the Italian republics worked like buisness and compited in an Oligopolis fashion.You guys are just attacking each other or not even attacking.Please,fix that.DONT LET DEM COMMIES RULE

I know they competed.
Genoa is dead, Pisa joined the crusade,so my hands are chained.

And in regard to florence........
Who knows, one should choose alliances carefully.....
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:30 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Where´s the problem?


Cause the Italian republics worked like buisness and compited in an Oligopolis fashion.You guys are just attacking each other or not even attacking.Please,fix that.DONT LET DEM COMMIES RULE


Psh. The command economy has worked wonders for Great Russia. The Grand Prince commands, the nobility oversees, the peasantry produces.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:40 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Cause the Italian republics worked like buisness and compited in an Oligopolis fashion.You guys are just attacking each other or not even attacking.Please,fix that.DONT LET DEM COMMIES RULE


Psh. The command economy has worked wonders for Great Russia. The Grand Prince commands, the nobility oversees, the peasantry produces.


Seems a lot like the USSR
Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
ABOUT ME:
Male, Greek Nationalist, Orthodox Christian, State Capitalist
EU, communism, abortion, Greek/Turkish friendship, NATO, illegal immigration, Globalism, FYROM, gay marriage
Enosis, Megali Idea, Putin, Guns, Nationalism, Equallity, Kurdistan, Assyria
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:45 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Psh. The command economy has worked wonders for Great Russia. The Grand Prince commands, the nobility oversees, the peasantry produces.


Seems a lot like the USSR


Nah, feudalism. Even better than Socialist dictators; a monarch with the divine right to rule.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:48 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Seems a lot like the USSR


Nah, feudalism. Even better than Socialist dictators; a monarch with the divine right to rule.


Still looks a lot like the USSR.Just with less killing.
The capitalist model is better.And by the way what you said is the 'ways of production' you did not mention the competition (which in that time was mostly international with city-states/kingdoms used as buisness)
Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
ABOUT ME:
Male, Greek Nationalist, Orthodox Christian, State Capitalist
EU, communism, abortion, Greek/Turkish friendship, NATO, illegal immigration, Globalism, FYROM, gay marriage
Enosis, Megali Idea, Putin, Guns, Nationalism, Equallity, Kurdistan, Assyria
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:52 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Nah, feudalism. Even better than Socialist dictators; a monarch with the divine right to rule.


Still looks a lot like the USSR.Just with less killing.
The capitalist model is better.And by the way what you said is the 'ways of production' you did not mention the competition (which in that time was mostly international with city-states/kingdoms used as buisness)


Nah, competition wouldn't be big enough to be an issue in 1202. The costs of trade due to distance and the difficulty of transport would have made the non-local manufacture of all by highly specialized and luxury goods unfeasible. Truthfully the trade of common raw materials and manufactured goods didn't come into the scene in Europe until around the Industrial Revolution.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:55 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Still looks a lot like the USSR.Just with less killing.
The capitalist model is better.And by the way what you said is the 'ways of production' you did not mention the competition (which in that time was mostly international with city-states/kingdoms used as buisness)


Nah, competition wouldn't be big enough to be an issue in 1202. The costs of trade due to distance and the difficulty of transport would have made the non-local manufacture of all by highly specialized and luxury goods unfeasible. Truthfully the trade of common raw materials and manufactured goods didn't come into the scene in Europe until around the Industrial Revolution.


Trade around the mediteranean 'nods' .Then again it was usually used to bring products only available in Asia and Africa.

Is it just me or does Anarchism and Communism look like how ancient farmers used to live?
Kleomentia wrote:Almighty Hellenic Overlord of Slavya, he who is the son of Zeus and the father of Greekishness.
When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
ABOUT ME:
Male, Greek Nationalist, Orthodox Christian, State Capitalist
EU, communism, abortion, Greek/Turkish friendship, NATO, illegal immigration, Globalism, FYROM, gay marriage
Enosis, Megali Idea, Putin, Guns, Nationalism, Equallity, Kurdistan, Assyria
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74


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