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[DrakoBlaria]

Please dont ingor me ....


And just saying,I still have troops in the Adriatic

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Please dont ingor me ....


And just saying,I still have troops in the Adriatic

hey want to be friends! Byzantium we can restore both the east and the west empires to their former glory!

[DrakoBlaria]

Please dont ingor me ....


And just saying,I still have troops in the Adriatic

hey want to be friends! Byzantium we can restore both the east and the west empires to their former glory!

Thing is the Greeks are the one and true heirs of Rome.... (give us half of Sicily and you have a deal)

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

hey want to be friends! Byzantium we can restore both the east and the west empires to their former glory!

Thing is the Greeks are the one and true heirs of Rome.... (give us half of Sicily and you have a deal)

the sad part is I would agree to that in RL
and btw there were no "Greeks in Byzantium only "Romans" which the Greek people there called themselves

[The Jonathanian States]

Italy: Total war LOL

And what do you mean not so fast doge?

To restore the empire you have to face following enemies:
Milan-stronger than you- NPC
Lots of Italian City States-Together, stronger than you, if not, then weaker-NPC
Siena-A bit weaker, strong enough for a hard fight-Player, inactive
Pisa-More or less equal-Player
Papal State-I think a bit Stronger-Player
Sicily-Much stronger-Player
Venice-Stronger on sea, more or less equal on land-me.


Also, in regard to leaving Milan out of the plan:
As I already said:

First of all
THANKYOU FOR WAITING FOR ME OVERLORD OF DEATH!

2)

And Pisa Milan is a Duchy now, deal with it.

It already was a duchy.
A duchy ruled by the house of Della Torre, to be accurate.

3)

will trade embargo Pisa. .

I assume you meant stopping trade with them, but you dont have any harbours/fleet so you cant embargo them.

4)

OOC: Shut up and get out of my business Pisa, before I steamroller you.

That would be ignored as godmode.

5a)

Dear King Justin of France, I propose that we form an Alliance between are Kingdoms for the Greater Good.

Youre not a Kingdom.

5b)

Large and Impenetrable castles and built many around his Barony.

Impenetrable castles are godmode.

5c)

Large and Impenetrable castles and built many around his Barony.

It costs much money only to build one castle(assuimg you mean a real castle and not just a wooden mott and bailey).

5d)

Large and Impenetrable castles and built many around his Barony.

Building castles(again not including motts and baileys)takes time.
Unless you use tons of money it can take some good years.
And even if you do, its sure not going to be faster than 2 years(At least ive never ever heard of a castle(assumption as again) that was built in less).

5e)

Then go around and collect all gold, silver, and iron from the villages, melt that down and store it in the Vaults.

Are you just taking the stuff of the villagers?
5e₁)
In the middle ages, unless you were a merchant or noble, you wouldnt have gold or silver and only possibly(not sure) small amouts of Iron(in the form of tools).
5e₂)If you just take away their stuff that would cause a revolt.And if you do it everywhere youll have it everywhere.

6)

Well I'm gonna ally with France and Byzantium. If they have a problem with it they can deal with it. Valentir got me into this and introduced me to Nation States. I'm gonna support him here. Let Venice and their lackeys come at us. All hail Milan.

Give me a good reason why Milan should do it, OOC resons dont count.
And just so you know, Milan and the other (north) Italian nations a couple times formed their league, the Lombard League against other nations taing them over, and as one of the main nations I dont think Milan would have any reason to invite foreign troops into itself.
Especially as the Emperor would tolerate such at thing....

Overlord didnt respond to this!
As such all his actions have been ignored and reseted back to status quo.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Thing is the Greeks are the one and true heirs of Rome.... (give us half of Sicily and you have a deal)

the sad part is I would agree to that in RL and I assume your talking about magna Graecia and the city of Tarentum
and btw there were no "Greeks in Byzantium only "Romans" which the Greek people there called themselves

[DrakoBlaria]

Thing is the Greeks are the one and true heirs of Rome.... (give us half of Sicily and you have a deal)

the sad part is I would agree to that in RL
and btw there were no "Greeks in Byzantium only "Romans" which the Greek people there called themselves

Yes I know that but this is all before 1204.After 1204 the Byzantines stop using the term Ρομιος.Technically it means citizen of the roman empire but only the greeks used it.The armenians and slavs called themshelfs 'armenians' and 'serbians,croats etc'.'Greek' back then meant pagan.Its a change of words really

Yes mate I am talking about Megali Ellada

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Italy: Total war LOL

And what do you mean not so fast doge?

To restore the empire you have to face following enemies:
Milan-stronger than you- NPC
Lots of Italian City States-Together, stronger than you, if not, then weaker-NPC
Siena-A bit weaker, strong enough for a hard fight-Player, inactive
Pisa-More or less equal-Player
Papal State-I think a bit Stronger-Player
Sicily-Much stronger-Player
Venice-Stronger on sea, more or less equal on land-me.


Also, in regard to leaving Milan out of the plan:
As I already said:

First of all
THANKYOU FOR WAITING FOR ME OVERLORD OF DEATH!

2)

It already was a duchy.
A duchy ruled by the house of Della Torre, to be accurate.

3)

I assume you meant stopping trade with them, but you dont have any harbours/fleet so you cant embargo them.

4)

That would be ignored as godmode.

5a)

Youre not a Kingdom.

5b)

Impenetrable castles are godmode.

5c)

It costs much money only to build one castle(assuimg you mean a real castle and not just a wooden mott and bailey).

5d)

Building castles(again not including motts and baileys)takes time.
Unless you use tons of money it can take some good years.
And even if you do, its sure not going to be faster than 2 years(At least ive never ever heard of a castle(assumption as again) that was built in less).

5e)

Are you just taking the stuff of the villagers?
5e₁)
In the middle ages, unless you were a merchant or noble, you wouldnt have gold or silver and only possibly(not sure) small amouts of Iron(in the form of tools).
5e₂)If you just take away their stuff that would cause a revolt.And if you do it everywhere youll have it everywhere.

6)

Give me a good reason why Milan should do it, OOC resons dont count.
And just so you know, Milan and the other (north) Italian nations a couple times formed their league, the Lombard League against other nations taing them over, and as one of the main nations I dont think Milan would have any reason to invite foreign troops into itself.
Especially as the Emperor would tolerate such at thing....

Overlord didnt respond to this!
As such all his actions have been ignored and reseted back to status quo.

baby steps my dear baby steps....

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

the sad part is I would agree to that in RL
and btw there were no "Greeks in Byzantium only "Romans" which the Greek people there called themselves

Yes I know that but this is all before 1204.After 1204 the Byzantines stop using the term Ρομιος.Technically it means citizen of the roman empire but only the greeks used it.The armenians and slavs called themshelfs 'armenians' and 'serbians,croats etc'.'Greek' back then meant pagan.Its a change of words really

Yes mate I am talking about Megali Ellada

Well thanks for making it greek you know I was fine with Graecia which your country's name to rest of the world comes from....
and still I originally planned to smuggle you supplies and men in the crusade against you because the current leader of my duchy is a scholar of old Rome and has sympathy to you..

[The Jonathanian States]

Yes I know that but this is all before 1204.After 1204 the Byzantines stop using the term Ρομιος.Technically it means citizen of the roman empire but only the greeks used it.The armenians and slavs called themshelfs 'armenians' and 'serbians,croats etc'.'Greek' back then meant pagan.Its a change of words really

Yes mate I am talking about Megali Ellada

Well thanks for making it greek you know I was fine with Graecia which your country's name to rest of the world comes from....
and still I originally planned to smuggle you supplies and men in the crusade against you because the current leader of my duchy is a scholar of old Rome and has sympathy to you..

Naval Blockades.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

say do you have it surrounded by Land including the Asian part?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Well thanks for making it greek you know I was fine with Graecia which your country's name to rest of the world comes from....
and still I originally planned to smuggle you supplies and men in the crusade against you because the current leader of my duchy is a scholar of old Rome and has sympathy to you..

Naval Blockades.

well venice im going to make a map splitting up Italy into 4 part

[DrakoBlaria]

Thanks a lot Canada.Both here and in the GD thread.Where are you from IRL?

[The Jonathanian States]

say do you have it surrounded by Land including the Asian part?

No not by land, but land travel was slow these days.
Very slow and a target of bandits.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Thanks a lot Canada.Both here and in the GD thread.Where are you from IRL?

born in Trieste, Italy
live in Mississauga Canada

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

say do you have it surrounded by Land including the Asian part?

No not by land, but land travel was slow these days.
Very slow and a target of bandits.

I realized that did you not read "and men"

[DrakoBlaria]

Thanks a lot Canada.Both here and in the GD thread.Where are you from IRL?

born in Trieste, Italy
live in Mississauga Canada

So could you please explain me the ideas of the Italian unificiation?

[The Jonathanian States]

No not by land, but land travel was slow these days.
Very slow and a target of bandits.

I realized that did you not read "and men"

"and men" wasnt written there.
And sendind men would have one of either effects:
-You loose to much troops in your homeland and are vulnerable to an counterattack by the small states.
-You dont send enough troops to protect against larger bands.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

I realized that did you not read "and men"

"and men" wasnt written there.
And sendind men would have one of either effects:
-You loose to much troops in your homeland and are vulnerable to an counterattack by the small states.
-You dont send enough troops to protect against larger bands.

true enough but I cancelled that because the crusade ended so doe it really matter right now?

[Liberated Counties]

Im going camping to wales for two days, so like, i declare myself on vacation mode.

And before anyone gets annoyed, dont bother your not the only one, i dont want to go.

[The Jonathanian States]

"and men" wasnt written there.
And sendind men would have one of either effects:
-You loose to much troops in your homeland and are vulnerable to an counterattack by the small states.
-You dont send enough troops to protect against larger bands.

true enough but I cancelled that because the crusade ended so doe it really matter right now?

No, it doesnt, but could make you think of supporting foreign nations.

Im going camping to wales for two days, so like, i declare myself on vacation mode.

And before anyone gets annoyed, dont bother your not the only one, i dont want to go.

Who should somebody take control of your crusaders?
Or do they just decide to idle there?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Right now, The Pact could probably wipe out Europe.

[Liberated Counties]

true enough but I cancelled that because the crusade ended so doe it really matter right now?

No, it doesnt, but could make you think of supporting foreign nations.

Im going camping to wales for two days, so like, i declare myself on vacation mode.

And before anyone gets annoyed, dont bother your not the only one, i dont want to go.

Who should somebody take control of your crusaders?
Or do they just decide to idle there?

Valentir can, since im crusading with him
By the time i get back, giovanni will have returned from venice, so can i start from him landing back in palermo?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

born in Trieste, Italy
live in Mississauga Canada

So could you please explain me the ideas of the Italian unification?

Many unifications don't make sense Italia's is not the worst it was mainly unified because of nationalism but also do to the Italian people like me believing that we were the heirs to Rome an the province of Italia

[G-Tech Corporation]

Right now, The Pact could probably wipe out Europe.

What do you think Grand Plan Dolgorky is after the Kipchak Khaganates eat it? Make daisy bracelets and go conquer Siberia?