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Katyuscha
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Postby Katyuscha » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Mishmahig wrote:Hey guys, just like to point this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... udi_Arabia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_Development_Oman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Petroleum_Company

So......your industries are not exactly going to be the world standard yet....even if you discovered them a few years before you did IRL (which is fine, of course), you're not suddenly going to be producing millions of barrels every day.

Yes, I've realized this. That's why most of the oil we're exporting currently is local, except for France.
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Katyuscha
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Postby Katyuscha » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Kerblaekistan wrote:Lets say we discovered oil in 1913 instead 1923, O.K.? :oops:

That's what I was thinking.
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Mondrova
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Postby Mondrova » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Kerblaekistan wrote:Of course.

Kerbleak, if I get accepted I will buy oil from you lol ;)


I'm pretty sure every country you claim has already been taken, so yeah...
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Greater Nilfgaard
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:17 pm

In Norway we gotz oil too, if anyones interested
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Kengburg
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Postby Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:17 pm

Kerblaekistan wrote:Lets say we discovered oil in 1913 instead 1923, O.K.? :oops:

Worst case-scenario you can just sell Muslim wives to people
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Kengburg
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Postby Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:18 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:In Norway we gotz oil too, if anyones interested

How do you get your oil? In ice cubes?
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Aeken
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Postby Aeken » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:18 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:Hey guys, just like to point this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... udi_Arabia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_Development_Oman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Petroleum_Company

So......your industries are not exactly going to be the world standard yet....even if you discovered them a few years before you did IRL (which is fine, of course), you're not suddenly going to be producing millions of barrels every day.

Yes, I've realized this. That's why most of the oil we're exporting currently is local, except for France.

Well of course. But you forget, I have the UAE.

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Mondrova
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Postby Mondrova » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:18 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
Kerblaekistan wrote:Lets say we discovered oil in 1913 instead 1923, O.K.? :oops:

That's what I was thinking.


Even with that, you wouldn't head oil production, assuming the countries that normally would have been at the time produce oil normally, and I don't see why they wouldn't.
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Neo Arcad
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Postby Neo Arcad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:19 pm

Delanshar wrote:
Aeken wrote:It would be much easier to transport my oil through a pipeline than ship it by boat. And if you are done complaining about oil deals, I suggest you try to ally with Italy, Bengal, or Spain.


I propose: Oman-Persia-Byzantine Pipeline.

Oh yeah? Well, I propose: Moon-Galapagos-Antarctica Pipeline! Serving all the penguin-rich areas of the world... AND BEYOND.





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Kerblaekistan
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Postby Kerblaekistan » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:20 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:In Norway we gotz oil too, if anyones interested

Not until '66. :p Also, Oman didnt have oil for a long time, so in here, our oil industry is larger. :twisted:
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Kengburg
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Postby Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:20 pm

Kengburg wrote:Application:
NS Name: Kengburg
RP Nation Name: Republico de Colombia y América Latina
Capital City: Bogota
Currency: Arpez
Total Population: 88,287,037

Languages/Linguistic breakdown (percentage/number of people who speak what as a first language):
86.42%: Spanish
8.58%: English
3.26%: Portugese
1.44%: French
0.3%: Native Toungues

Lingua Franca(s): English
Religious breakdown:
88.32%:Roman Catholics
8.68%: Evolutionist Christians
2%: Atheists
0.8%: Protestants
[0.2%[/b]: Native Beliefs

Ethnic group breakdown:
52.6%: Columbian
23.4%: Venezualan
9.8%: Honduran
6.2%: El Salvadoran
3.1%: Panamanan
.9%: Surinamean
.9%: Guyanan


Land Claims: Columbia, Venezuala, Panama, El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, Guyana, Suriname, and Honduras
Type of Government: Representative Republic, Constitutional Republic
Leader Name: Castillo Brigante


Points on Economy: 27
GDP per capita: 1,120
Total GDP: 98,881,481,280
Points on Happiness: 11/12.5
Total Happiness Percent: 72%
Points on Military Numbers: 2
Total Military Numbers: 812,240
Points on Military Tech and effectiveness: 9/19
Points on Army/Marines: 4/7
Points on Navy: 5/7
Points on Air Force: 0/7


Short History of your Nation: Republico de Colombia y América Latina was founded in 1498 when nobles led by Machante Luzero who were granted fiefs from the Spanish King seceded and joined together to form a new monarchy, but with a parliament that represented the people. Machante wanted some fairness for the people they saw for so long suffer under the Spanish Crown, and try to move forward to make a better economy for the region. With great reforms The Republico became an economic powerhouse of the Americas, in the 1600s it's ports saw some of the America's greatest trade, and most importantly some of America's greatest wealth. With the Latin Civil War starting in 1864, when Latin America tried to secede from the republic, there were many bloody battles that ended with The Republico winning, even though the Latins had to pay reperations, it left a stain on the economy, and created a depression that the nation did not get out of until 1872. The economy recovered, but it will never be as great as it was before.


Short Description of your nation: The Republico de Colombia y América Latina is a tropical nation that has some of the best waters and beaches you will find, the people have the warm, open, south american spirit. We have booming tourism, shipping, coffee, and fruit industry that supplements a lot of our economy, the nation is run in a conservitate style economy with a liberal style social issues view, and results in a balanced and effective nation.

RP example (For nations exceeding 100 million people):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=211298 Put it anyway

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General population's view on gay rights/gay people: Unfavorable[1920s Catholic thing] gay marriage is outlawed.
General population's view on religions other than the primary one: Toleration
General population's view on atheism: Toleration
General population's view on abortion: Needed only when in risk of mother's life [Catholic Thing]
View on other races/ethnic groups other than the primary one(s): The Indians are viewed as heathens. Latins and the Columbians/Venezualans have had a slight dislike since the Civil War in 1864.
Status of religion in politics: Church is separated from state
Any big prejudices in your nation (widespread discrimination against a particular group, linguistic conflict, etc): The native Indians are viewed as heathens and not accepted into society.
View on immigration into country: The legal immigration process is quite easy, but most cannot illegally immigrate due to the jungles
View on emigration out of country (Also, how many people emigrate per year?): Most people never leave the country permanently: 880 people per year

Just to make sure my app does not get lost in this flood of comments
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21
Proud Allied State of the Union of Human Supremacists, Ave Humanitas!

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Kerblaekistan
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Postby Kerblaekistan » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:21 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Application:
NS Name: Kengburg
RP Nation Name: Republico de Colombia y América Latina
Capital City: Bogota
Currency: Arpez
Total Population: 88,287,037

Languages/Linguistic breakdown (percentage/number of people who speak what as a first language):
86.42%: Spanish
8.58%: English
3.26%: Portugese
1.44%: French
0.3%: Native Toungues

Lingua Franca(s): English
Religious breakdown:
88.32%:Roman Catholics
8.68%: Evolutionist Christians
2%: Atheists
0.8%: Protestants
[0.2%[/b]: Native Beliefs

Ethnic group breakdown:
52.6%: Columbian
23.4%: Venezualan
9.8%: Honduran
6.2%: El Salvadoran
3.1%: Panamanan
.9%: Surinamean
.9%: Guyanan


Land Claims: Columbia, Venezuala, Panama, El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, Guyana, Suriname, and Honduras
Type of Government: Representative Republic, Constitutional Republic
Leader Name: Castillo Brigante


Points on Economy: 27
GDP per capita: 1,120
Total GDP: 98,881,481,280
Points on Happiness: 11/12.5
Total Happiness Percent: 72%
Points on Military Numbers: 2
Total Military Numbers: 812,240
Points on Military Tech and effectiveness: 9/19
Points on Army/Marines: 4/7
Points on Navy: 5/7
Points on Air Force: 0/7


Short History of your Nation: Republico de Colombia y América Latina was founded in 1498 when nobles led by Machante Luzero who were granted fiefs from the Spanish King seceded and joined together to form a new monarchy, but with a parliament that represented the people. Machante wanted some fairness for the people they saw for so long suffer under the Spanish Crown, and try to move forward to make a better economy for the region. With great reforms The Republico became an economic powerhouse of the Americas, in the 1600s it's ports saw some of the America's greatest trade, and most importantly some of America's greatest wealth. With the Latin Civil War starting in 1864, when Latin America tried to secede from the republic, there were many bloody battles that ended with The Republico winning, even though the Latins had to pay reperations, it left a stain on the economy, and created a depression that the nation did not get out of until 1872. The economy recovered, but it will never be as great as it was before.


Short Description of your nation: The Republico de Colombia y América Latina is a tropical nation that has some of the best waters and beaches you will find, the people have the warm, open, south american spirit. We have booming tourism, shipping, coffee, and fruit industry that supplements a lot of our economy, the nation is run in a conservitate style economy with a liberal style social issues view, and results in a balanced and effective nation.

RP example (For nations exceeding 100 million people):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=211298 Put it anyway

CULTURE
General population's view on gay rights/gay people: Unfavorable[1920s Catholic thing] gay marriage is outlawed.
General population's view on religions other than the primary one: Toleration
General population's view on atheism: Toleration
General population's view on abortion: Needed only when in risk of mother's life [Catholic Thing]
View on other races/ethnic groups other than the primary one(s): The Indians are viewed as heathens. Latins and the Columbians/Venezualans have had a slight dislike since the Civil War in 1864.
Status of religion in politics: Church is separated from state
Any big prejudices in your nation (widespread discrimination against a particular group, linguistic conflict, etc): The native Indians are viewed as heathens and not accepted into society.
View on immigration into country: The legal immigration process is quite easy, but most cannot illegally immigrate due to the jungles
View on emigration out of country (Also, how many people emigrate per year?): Most people never leave the country permanently: 880 people per year

Just to make sure my app does not get lost in this flood of comments
that land is claimed, sorry. :(
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

-John F. Kennedy

Sokka's Guide to surviving the Desert
Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors.
-Sheldon Cooper on 'Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock.'

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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:22 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:Hey guys, just like to point this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... udi_Arabia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_Development_Oman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Petroleum_Company

So......your industries are not exactly going to be the world standard yet....even if you discovered them a few years before you did IRL (which is fine, of course), you're not suddenly going to be producing millions of barrels every day.

Yes, I've realized this. That's why most of the oil we're exporting currently is local, except for France.


Okay, good. Because it sounded like you guys were making very big plans for very large amounts of oil....

You also might want to keep in mind the historical price of oil at the moment. $1.70 per barrel in 1920 ($20.73 in current money).

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Mondrova
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Postby Mondrova » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:22 pm

Hmm, I'm looking over the history of oil production, and Russia was a large producer early on. Since it looks like we'll be pretty close from the get go, I should be set, especially with Nigeria, which has a cozy supply.
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Greater Nilfgaard
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:22 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:In Norway we gotz oil too, if anyones interested

How do you get your oil? In ice cubes?


Damn bro, it ain't THAT cold. Our oil is good shit.
We are the Great Souled Men of NS.
Put this as your sig if you have read our manifesto and support our plans.

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Kengburg
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Postby Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:24 pm

Kerblaekistan wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Just to make sure my app does not get lost in this flood of comments
that land is claimed, sorry. :(

Yeah, I do not see any countries occupying that land, so...if someone wants it that bad they can just counquer me after I take it, because you just do not "claim" all that land after I worked for like an hour on my app lol
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Katyuscha
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Postby Katyuscha » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:24 pm

Mondrova wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:That's what I was thinking.


Even with that, you wouldn't head oil production, assuming the countries that normally would have been at the time produce oil normally, and I don't see why they wouldn't.

I don't plan on leading the oil industry, I just plan on having a good chunk of it.

When I say "I" I mean the three of us.

Also, seeing as Iran has the second largest sales of natural gas, I can see that becoming a major industry later on in the RP.
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Greater Nilfgaard
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:24 pm

Kerblaekistan wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:In Norway we gotz oil too, if anyones interested

Not until '66. :p Also, Oman didnt have oil for a long time, so in here, our oil industry is larger. :twisted:


Whatevs. I'm in this for the long haul I can wait.
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Put this as your sig if you have read our manifesto and support our plans.

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Kerblaekistan
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Postby Kerblaekistan » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:24 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Kengburg wrote:How do you get your oil? In ice cubes?


Damn bro, it ain't THAT cold. Our oil is good shit.

once again, not until '66.
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

-John F. Kennedy

Sokka's Guide to surviving the Desert
Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors.
-Sheldon Cooper on 'Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock.'

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Mondrova
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Postby Mondrova » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:25 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Kerblaekistan wrote:that land is claimed, sorry. :(

Yeah, I do not see any countries occupying that land, so...if someone wants it that bad they can just counquer me after I take it, because you just do not "claim" all that land after I worked for like an hour on my app lol


It is on the map. http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/720/ ... thnpcs.png
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Neo Arcad
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Postby Neo Arcad » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:26 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Kengburg wrote:How do you get your oil? In ice cubes?


Damn bro, it ain't THAT cold. Our oil is good shit.


Nope.avi

Oil rigs don't exist. Nice try, but I have Aberdeen, oil capital of Europe. All that oil and shellflish and mammoths belongs to moi even once the tech gets here.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Two shirtless men on a pushback with handlebar moustaches and a kettle conquered India, at 17:04 in the afternoon on a Tuesday. They rolled the bike up the hill and demanded that the natives set about acquiring bureaucratic records.

Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

NSLV wrote:Introducing the new political text from acclaimed author/yak, NEO ARCAD, an exploration of nuclear power in the Middle East and Asia, "Nuclear Penis: He Won't Call You Again".

This is the best region ever. You know you want it.

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Katyuscha
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Postby Katyuscha » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:27 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:Yes, I've realized this. That's why most of the oil we're exporting currently is local, except for France.


Okay, good. Because it sounded like you guys were making very big plans for very large amounts of oil....

You also might want to keep in mind the historical price of oil at the moment. $1.70 per barrel in 1920 ($20.73 in current money).

Yeah.

As I said, I have no current intention on leading the oil industry, not for a little while, anyway. Most oil sales will be made locally and with good allies.
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Kengburg
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Postby Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:27 pm

Mondrova wrote:
Kengburg wrote:Yeah, I do not see any countries occupying that land, so...if someone wants it that bad they can just counquer me after I take it, because you just do not "claim" all that land after I worked for like an hour on my app lol


It is on the map. http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/720/ ... thnpcs.png

Y U NO UPDATE THE MAP THAT IS ON THE FRONT PAGE THAT EVERYONE SEES! D:<
My Political Compass
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21
Proud Allied State of the Union of Human Supremacists, Ave Humanitas!

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Mondrova
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Postby Mondrova » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:28 pm

Kengburg wrote:

Y U NO UPDATE THE MAP THAT IS ON THE FRONT PAGE THAT EVERYONE SEES! D:<


If it's any consolation, a large amount of South America remains unclaimed.
We all ride the struggle bus sometimes

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Katyuscha
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Postby Katyuscha » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:28 pm

Kengburg wrote:

Y U NO UPDATE THE MAP THAT IS ON THE FRONT PAGE THAT EVERYONE SEES! D:<

Because that's the OPs job and he's not here at the moment.
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