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by The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:54 pm
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by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:57 pm
by Minnysota » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:58 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:
The CIWS is good, but can be beaten. I'd wage good money that a swarm of Exocet's would have a fairly good hit ratio, at least above %40, seeing as the missile is desigend to be small, blend with the wavetops to get under radar and fairly fast.

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:59 pm
Minnysota wrote:Machtergreifung wrote:
The CIWS is good, but can be beaten. I'd wage good money that a swarm of Exocet's would have a fairly good hit ratio, at least above %40, seeing as the missile is desigend to be small, blend with the wavetops to get under radar and fairly fast.
Sea-skimmers can easily be countered by AWACs, which US battle groups definitely have. CIWS can be defeated by saturation strikes, but the US AEGIS system can be quite effective in open areas. In confined areas, such as the Persian Gulf, it can lose some of its effectiveness.

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:00 pm

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:01 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:Delanshar wrote:
Thats what the Phalanx is for. I was referring to ballistic missiles (which doesn't include Exocets, to my knowledge)
I'm doubtfull over how much use Phalanx would be against something like the Exocet, seeing as the radar signature would be so slight and the sea (esp the South Atlantic) so choppy. Minny, care to comment?

by Kryskov » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:03 pm

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:04 pm
Minnysota wrote:Machtergreifung wrote:
The CIWS is good, but can be beaten. I'd wage good money that a swarm of Exocet's would have a fairly good hit ratio, at least above %40, seeing as the missile is desigend to be small, blend with the wavetops to get under radar and fairly fast.
Sea-skimmers can easily be countered by AWACs, which US battle groups definitely have. CIWS can be defeated by saturation strikes, but the US AEGIS system can be quite effective in open areas. In confined areas, such as the Persian Gulf, it can lose some of its effectiveness.

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:07 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:Minnysota wrote:
Sea-skimmers can easily be countered by AWACs, which US battle groups definitely have. CIWS can be defeated by saturation strikes, but the US AEGIS system can be quite effective in open areas. In confined areas, such as the Persian Gulf, it can lose some of its effectiveness.
I was always under the assumption that the CIWS was fairly screwed when it came down to choppy seas, where a open sea would decrease it's effectiveness rather than reduce it.

by Soviet Canuckistan » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:10 pm
Kryskov wrote:Man I just wanna time-skip to some action

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:11 pm
Kryskov wrote:"Due to the effect of the radar horizon, this means that the target may not detect an incoming attack until the missile is only 6000 m from impact." This is an optimal condition. At the max speed (315 m/s), there would be a bit less than 20 seconds to prepare and launch a counter-attack. Again, this is the most optimal condition.

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:12 pm

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:14 pm

by Soviet Canuckistan » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:15 pm

by Soviet Canuckistan » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:16 pm
Kryskov wrote:Macht, how many troops do you have stationed there?
by Minnysota » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:20 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:
I was always under the assumption that the CIWS was fairly screwed when it came down to choppy seas, where a open sea would decrease it's effectiveness rather than reduce it.

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:21 pm

by Soviet Canuckistan » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:25 pm
Delanshar wrote:Ok then
so official one week time skip
US/UK Fleet headed towards Ascension
Canada in the Falklands
Brazil fleet back at coast
As for the Falkland war I will conduct a roll
0-10: Argentine force totally repelled, coalition casualties light
10-35: The Argentine force was totally repelled, but coalition forces took heavy casualties
35-50: Argentine force was partially repelled, coalition forces took moderate casualties. both sides are still fighting around the island. (leaning towards coalition victory)
50-70: Argentine force and Coalition force are locked in stalemate
70-90: Argentine naval forces are gaining upper hand but fighting is ongoing
90-100: Argentine naval forces have routed naval coalition forces. Amphibious invasion likely.
Thoughts?

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:26 pm
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Delanshar wrote:Ok then
so official one week time skip
US/UK Fleet headed towards Ascension
Canada in the Falklands
Brazil fleet back at coast
As for the Falkland war I will conduct a roll
0-10: Argentine force totally repelled, coalition casualties light
10-35: The Argentine force was totally repelled, but coalition forces took heavy casualties
35-50: Argentine force was partially repelled, coalition forces took moderate casualties. both sides are still fighting around the island. (leaning towards coalition victory)
50-70: Argentine force and Coalition force are locked in stalemate
70-90: Argentine naval forces are gaining upper hand but fighting is ongoing
90-100: Argentine naval forces have routed naval coalition forces. Amphibious invasion likely.
Thoughts?
Might be a bit early to decide the war's outcome

by Kryskov » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:29 pm

by Greater Nilfgaard » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:33 pm

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:35 pm

by Greater Nilfgaard » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:39 pm
Delanshar wrote:Alright then, will post results momentarily
Also this time I'm just gonna roll it once because I'm beginning to think that 3 rolls automatically averages to close to 50.
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