They didn't violate any charter. The British Germans and Canadians aren't acting under the flag of NATO.
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by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:46 pm

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:48 pm

by Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:49 pm

by Ardboe Eire » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:51 pm
Delanshar wrote:Libya, your post has absolutely no realism. Like, at all.
Change it.
It's fine to RP a comeback of pro-Gaddafi forces but it has to be gradual, realistic and include a little thing called background.

by Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:51 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:Delanshar wrote:
They didn't violate any charter. The British Germans and Canadians aren't acting under the flag of NATO.
That wouldn't make any difference. In the '83 conflict, there was a reason why nobody came to give the British outright assistance, at least in the European sphere. Even if the navies aren't operating under the NATO flag, you have Britian, supported by other counties who happen to be members of NATO, fighting a war half-a-world away. THAT sents a dangerous precident that the world doesn't want to see.

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:53 pm
Vehemia wrote:Machtergreifung wrote:
NATO.
Germany sending ships to help Britain (even outwith the NATO framework) would be enough to trample on plenty of toes around the world.
They requested assistance under article four and we sent help. It was supposed to be a police action it was never supposed to be a war.

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:55 pm
Vehemia wrote:Machtergreifung wrote:
That wouldn't make any difference. In the '83 conflict, there was a reason why nobody came to give the British outright assistance, at least in the European sphere. Even if the navies aren't operating under the NATO flag, you have Britian, supported by other counties who happen to be members of NATO, fighting a war half-a-world away. THAT sents a dangerous precident that the world doesn't want to see.
The reason assistance wasn't given was it wasn't requested. The Americans were going to transfer ships to the British if one of their carriers got taken out. How does members of a military alliance assisting each other set a dangerous precedent?


by Ublia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:26 pm

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:30 pm
Ublia wrote:I understand guerrilla groups are available. Must they be current or can you scrape something together?

by Ublia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:31 pm

by Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:31 pm

by Ublia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:33 pm

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:38 pm
Delanshar wrote:Vehemia wrote:The reason assistance wasn't given was it wasn't requested. The Americans were going to transfer ships to the British if one of their carriers got taken out. How does members of a military alliance assisting each other set a dangerous precedent?
If anything is the dangerous precedent here it is that Brazil unilaterally took over a British island and is now justifying it by calling it a "peace" tactic.
So now any country can just unilaterally take over anything if they think it will help bring "peace" (according to them)?

by Ardboe Eire » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:40 pm
Ardboe Eire wrote:Delanshar wrote:Libya, your post has absolutely no realism. Like, at all.
Change it.
It's fine to RP a comeback of pro-Gaddafi forces but it has to be gradual, realistic and include a little thing called background.
Ok I was crazy at trying for Tripoli so soon.
Maybe I'll try Sirte first.

by Ublia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:45 pm

by Sicoutimont » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:47 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:Delanshar wrote:
If anything is the dangerous precedent here it is that Brazil unilaterally took over a British island and is now justifying it by calling it a "peace" tactic.
So now any country can just unilaterally take over anything if they think it will help bring "peace" (according to them)?
I got the idea from the occupation of Goa, actually.
You have to admit, it does rather nicely present a grim choice to the other side. They can either accept the slight demands and enter into talks, in which case they get their island back, or they can refuse, spend months reducing the island, all the while the Falklands conflict grinds to a halt with UK/NATO supply chains grinding to a halt.

by Machtergreifung » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:49 pm
Sicoutimont wrote:Machtergreifung wrote:
I got the idea from the occupation of Goa, actually.
You have to admit, it does rather nicely present a grim choice to the other side. They can either accept the slight demands and enter into talks, in which case they get their island back, or they can refuse, spend months reducing the island, all the while the Falklands conflict grinds to a halt with UK/NATO supply chains grinding to a halt.
I do have to say, although I disagree with it IC'ly, it does provide a good holding point/bargaining chip for Brazil and Argentina in the war.

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