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Postby Ardboe Eire » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:43 am

Delanshar wrote:
Ardboe Eire wrote:
NS Name:Ardboe Eire
Faction Name:Libya
Faction Leader:Mohammed Magarief
Faction Capital (or base of power, if not nation):Tripoli
Military Strength:35,000
Economic Strength* (Bankrupt/Developing/Semi-Developed/Developed):Developing
Total Population*:6,733,620 (July 2012 est.)
Allies at start:USA,UK,EU


RP Sample:Iron Cutain RP(Vehemias)
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Vehemia
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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:45 am

Canada, if you want control of the island say you are simply peacekeepers.
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Postby Sabara » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:48 am

Kryskov wrote:
Sabara wrote:@Whoever'splayingbritain: FYI, I might start a dispute over Icelandic territorial waters with the U.K.

I am. And waters? Dafuq?


Well, I'm thinking of trying to extend our waters into British seas... >:) If your up for it, of course. Right now Britain and Iceland are having disputes over territorial waters.
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Patricant
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:13 am

Vehemia wrote:Canada, if you want control of the island say you are simply peacekeepers.

You only need one set of peacekeepers mate.
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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:15 am

Patricant wrote:
Vehemia wrote:Canada, if you want control of the island say you are simply peacekeepers.

You only need one set of peacekeepers mate.

If you think Uncle Sam is going to let China get a base in the Atlantic you're mistaken.
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- Republic of Canada in Birth of an Era
- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Patricant
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:17 am

Vehemia wrote:
Patricant wrote:You only need one set of peacekeepers mate.

If you think Uncle Sam is going to let China get a base in the Atlantic you're mistaken.

I am not mistaken, but if they do try and launch a coup de main, they will be met with equal force. Also, will you be adding a security council thread?
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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:23 am

Patricant wrote:
Vehemia wrote:If you think Uncle Sam is going to let China get a base in the Atlantic you're mistaken.

I am not mistaken, but if they do try and launch a coup de main, they will be met with equal force. Also, will you be adding a security council thread?

Who will fight a conventional war against the US for a small island in the Atlantic?
"The pursuit of peace and progress cannot end in a few years in either victory or defeat. The pursuit of peace and progress, with its trials and its errors, its successes and its setbacks, can never be relaxed and never abandoned."
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- Republic of Canada in Birth of an Era
- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:49 am

Vehemia wrote:
Patricant wrote:I am not mistaken, but if they do try and launch a coup de main, they will be met with equal force. Also, will you be adding a security council thread?

Who will fight a conventional war against the US for a small island in the Atlantic?


Whoever they are they deserve a Darwin Award.
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:52 am

Delanshar wrote:
Vehemia wrote:Who will fight a conventional war against the US for a small island in the Atlantic?


Whoever they are they deserve a Darwin Award.

Yeah, they probably would. I know I wouldn't.
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Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China. It is the PRC's 23rd administrative division. There, I said it. Put this in YOUR signature if you agree.

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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:54 am

Patricant wrote:
Delanshar wrote:
Whoever they are they deserve a Darwin Award.

Yeah, they probably would. I know I wouldn't.


Then why did u send Nigerian troops to the island?
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:57 am

Delanshar wrote:
Patricant wrote:Yeah, they probably would. I know I wouldn't.


Then why did u send Nigerian troops to the island?

Because Brazilians are there, my allies. Not the Americans.
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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:58 am

Patricant wrote:
Delanshar wrote:
Then why did u send Nigerian troops to the island?

Because Brazilians are there, my allies. Not the Americans.

Umm it's shared between the British and Americans
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- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:00 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Patricant wrote:Because Brazilians are there, my allies. Not the Americans.

Umm it's shared between the British and Americans

I know. Are there any Brits or Americans there now? No, you say. Then that is why I stationed troops, to basically assist my Brazilian friends. Remember, my troops are on no-combat orders.
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Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China. It is the PRC's 23rd administrative division. There, I said it. Put this in YOUR signature if you agree.

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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:02 pm

Patricant wrote:
Vehemia wrote:Umm it's shared between the British and Americans

I know. Are there any Brits or Americans there now? No, you say. Then that is why I stationed troops, to basically assist my Brazilian friends. Remember, my troops are on no-combat orders.

Yes they are still on the island. If the troops have non combat orders the only thing they're doing is serving to entangle you in a war with NATO.
"The pursuit of peace and progress cannot end in a few years in either victory or defeat. The pursuit of peace and progress, with its trials and its errors, its successes and its setbacks, can never be relaxed and never abandoned."
-Dag Hammarskjöld
- Republic of Canada in Birth of an Era
- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:05 pm

Patricant wrote:
Vehemia wrote:Umm it's shared between the British and Americans

I know. Are there any Brits or Americans there now? No, you say. Then that is why I stationed troops, to basically assist my Brazilian friends. Remember, my troops are on no-combat orders.


That means your participating in the military occupation of a foreign territory.
The British are within their right to treat u as a hostile power.
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:08 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Patricant wrote:I know. Are there any Brits or Americans there now? No, you say. Then that is why I stationed troops, to basically assist my Brazilian friends. Remember, my troops are on no-combat orders.

Yes they are still on the island. If the troops have non combat orders the only thing they're doing is serving to entangle you in a war with NATO.

There are British civilians and a few goats, yes, but no soldiers. My men are keeping the peace. Since they have landed, no conflict has as risen. That's a meaningful statistic.
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Achingrad Reds (AHL)
FC Fristad (HNL)
Shanak FC (by proxy of I-Patricant businessman Georgio Scalone)
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Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China. It is the PRC's 23rd administrative division. There, I said it. Put this in YOUR signature if you agree.

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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:10 pm

Patricant wrote:
Vehemia wrote:Yes they are still on the island. If the troops have non combat orders the only thing they're doing is serving to entangle you in a war with NATO.

There are British civilians and a few goats, yes, but no soldiers. My men are keeping the peace. Since they have landed, no conflict has as risen. That's a meaningful statistic.

It's an RAF/USAF airbase. You've occupied a British and American military installation without an mandate and without provocation.
"The pursuit of peace and progress cannot end in a few years in either victory or defeat. The pursuit of peace and progress, with its trials and its errors, its successes and its setbacks, can never be relaxed and never abandoned."
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- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:17 pm

China, how on earth are you going to maintain a military presence in the middle of the Atlantic?
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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:19 pm

Delanshar wrote:China, how on earth are you going to maintain a military presence in the middle of the Atlantic?

Doesn't really matter considering it will take them weeks to get any forces there
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- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:20 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Delanshar wrote:China, how on earth are you going to maintain a military presence in the middle of the Atlantic?

Doesn't really matter considering it will take them weeks to get any forces there


True, and once there it will be impossible for them to independently supply their troops.

They'd be totally reliant on Brazil's moderate naval capacity.
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Postby Vehemia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:23 pm

Delanshar wrote:
Vehemia wrote:Doesn't really matter considering it will take them weeks to get any forces there


True, and once there it will be impossible for them to independently supply their troops.

They'd be totally reliant on Brazil's moderate naval capacity.

Meanwhile the full force of the US and British navy is brought against them
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- Republic of Canada in Birth of an Era
- Hansa Union in Medival RP
- Riel Battalion The Battle for Spain
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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:26 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Delanshar wrote:
True, and once there it will be impossible for them to independently supply their troops.

They'd be totally reliant on Brazil's moderate naval capacity.

Meanwhile the full force of the US and British navy is brought against them

Exactly. It's a strategic blunder for China that borders on unrealistic.

I could see them flexing their muscles in the South China Sea or Senkakus, but the middle of the Atlantic offers incredible risk for China with no real gain.
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:27 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Patricant wrote:There are British civilians and a few goats, yes, but no soldiers. My men are keeping the peace. Since they have landed, no conflict has as risen. That's a meaningful statistic.

It's an RAF/USAF airbase. You've occupied a British and American military installation without an mandate and without provocation.

I followed ally Brazil.
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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:28 pm

Patricant wrote:
Vehemia wrote:It's an RAF/USAF airbase. You've occupied a British and American military installation without an mandate and without provocation.

I followed ally Brazil.


Who occupied it without any justification.
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Postby Patricant » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:29 pm

Delanshar wrote:
Patricant wrote:I followed ally Brazil.


Who occupied it without any justification.

Then address Brazil with your "wrath", not the peacekeeping force.
Hectate Hawks (VAFL)
Achingrad Reds (AHL)
FC Fristad (HNL)
Shanak FC (by proxy of I-Patricant businessman Georgio Scalone)
*none*

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