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[Generic Socialist Country]

That wouldn't stop the US from declaring war, at least not the real US.

If you spat on the Presidents shoes they'd declare war, especially if they don't approve of your government.

What about a shoe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFH7C3vkK4

I'm sure they declared war on that guy.

Probably have the CIA watching his house, in case he tries to commit more acts of unprovoked shoe-throwing attempts on the President.

[Patricant]

Would anyone object if Nigeria builds its own automatic rifles, in addition to utilizing our Chinese and Russian-made ones.

People make copies of the Russian assault rifles all the time. You could do that pretty easily.

I am aware. I will commence with their assembly then.

[New Ecopia]

People, stop god modding please.

[Kryskov]

Realism. It exists.

[Minnysota]

Well, jesus christ, what do you expect of me? First I've to have a degree in economics to be able to buy any fighters, and now I need to have a in-depths understanding of aircraft development to build my own?

Kindly fuck off.

You don't think that RPs should have any once of realism?

[Delanshar]

Yes, it won't be as good as the original, but you're not having to reinvent the wheel...

Not a wheel. Just a super advanced jet fighter...

You need to increase your timeframe. Alot.

[New Ecopia]

Realism. It exists.

True, very true wise words from a wise person.

[Machtergreifung]

Realism. It exists.

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

[Minnysota]

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

I've actually mentioned all of these to the OP over telegrams.

[The New Lowlands]

Realism. It exists.

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

Cuba's enriching Uranium?

Well, nobody seemed to care when Pakistan did it...

[Delanshar]

Kindly fuck off.

That language is not acceptable on this (or any) thread. Stop it.

[Bojikami]

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

Cuba's enriching Uranium?

Well, nobody seemed to care when Pakistan did it...

With help from china. Mind you.

[Delanshar]

Realism. It exists.

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

The difference is Cuba actually tried to change when I brought these issues up with him.

[New Ecopia]

Kindly fuck off.

That language is not acceptable on this (or any) thread. Stop it.

Is it possible to have a moderator for this ?

[Machtergreifung]

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

The difference is Cuba actually tried to change when I brought these issues up with him. You just keep arguing and arguing.

Why don't, instead of spamming "OMG your so wrong becasue XYZ is impossible", you present me with ALTERNATIVES that you would be happy with. I attempt to make a copy of the Eurofighter, I'm told that's impossible because for whatever reason the evaluation aircraft would have disapeared. I attempt to do the same with the Gripen, and I'm told such a timescale is impossible.

At no point did Minny or the OP go, well, sure but a more acceptable timeframe would be X, or yes, but the concequences would be Y.

So what have I to go on but arguements when there are no alternatives?

[Machtergreifung]

That language is not acceptable on this (or any) thread. Stop it.

Is it possible to have a moderator for this ?

Pardon me for being somewhat miffed. I'm sure you've seen worse. This is the internet after all.

[Bojikami]

Should I get Cuba into this?

[New Ecopia]

Is it possible to have a moderator for this ?

Pardon me for being somewhat miffed. I'm sure you've seen worse. This is the internet after all.

Well, ik

[Parhe]

The difference is Cuba actually tried to change when I brought these issues up with him. You just keep arguing and arguing.

Why don't, instead of spamming "OMG your so wrong becasue XYZ is impossible", you present me with ALTERNATIVES that you would be happy with. I attempt to make a copy of the Eurofighter, I'm told that's impossible because for whatever reason the evaluation aircraft would have disapeared. I attempt to do the same with the Gripen, and I'm told such a timescale is impossible.
At no point did Minny or the OP go, well, sure but a more acceptable timeframe would be X, or yes, but the concequences would be Y.

So what have I to go on but arguements when there are no alternatives?

Just wondering what was the reason you couldn't do what Brazil in RL does, was that the one that got took away?

[Delanshar]

The difference is Cuba actually tried to change when I brought these issues up with him. You just keep arguing and arguing.

Why don't, instead of spamming "OMG your so wrong becasue XYZ is impossible", you present me with ALTERNATIVES that you would be happy with. I attempt to make a copy of the Eurofighter, I'm told that's impossible because for whatever reason the evaluation aircraft would have disapeared. I attempt to do the same with the Gripen, and I'm told such a timescale is impossible.

At no point did Minny or the OP go, well, sure but a more acceptable timeframe would be X, or yes, but the concequences would be Y.

So what have I to go on but arguements when there are no alternatives?

If you want to build a new fighter it's your responsibility to do the research to see how long it would take.
And clearly based on you "6 months to production model" you didn't do that research but just made up a number that would get you the plane soon.

Look at the timeframes used for this article

Given, it's not a perfect analogy since in your case your trying to develop a Gripen. But still it gives a good sense of scale for the development time it takes to develop a new fighter. Years.

[Delanshar]

Should I get Cuba into this?

NO

[Kryskov]

Realism. It exists.

Germany running to help Britain in a brushfire war, no carebears given.
Cuba starts enriching uraniumn, no carebears given.
Brazil tries to buy new fighters, OMFG nowai can Brazil afford them.
Brazil tries to copy old design for new fighters, FUCKING GODMOD.

Yeah, realism.

1. The force had plenty of time (assuming the argument would happen for a couple weeks) to deploy. At most, they had a week.
2. I haven't been monitoring Cuba, so I agree that his seems highly suspect, but not impossible. It would take years to master nuclear enrichment anyways.
3. I thought this was because you isolated yourself from major fighter producers.
4. Even if you could, it would take YEARS to develop a highly advanced jet's technology and train.

And additionally, OP said you need to adjust the timescale.

[Minnysota]

China's not even close to finishing their shit. They're lagging behind in the engine sector.

That's the same problem Brazil would have. Even if they had an entire air frame to work with, they have no experience in avionics or engines. Those jobs are almost always outsourced to Western nations.

[Machtergreifung]

Why don't, instead of spamming "OMG your so wrong becasue XYZ is impossible", you present me with ALTERNATIVES that you would be happy with. I attempt to make a copy of the Eurofighter, I'm told that's impossible because for whatever reason the evaluation aircraft would have disapeared. I attempt to do the same with the Gripen, and I'm told such a timescale is impossible.

At no point did Minny or the OP go, well, sure but a more acceptable timeframe would be X, or yes, but the concequences would be Y.

So what have I to go on but arguements when there are no alternatives?

If you want to build a new fighter it's your responsibility to do the research to see how long it would take.
And clearly based on you "6 months to production model" you didn't do that research but just made up a number that would get you the plane soon.

Look at the timeframes used for this article

Given, it's not a perfect analogy since in your case your trying to develop a Gripen. But still it gives a good sense of scale for the development time it takes to develop a new fighter. Years.

So a six month period isn't realisitc. What is? As I've said, I'm not reinventing the wheel, just reproducing an existing design, and you can hardly draw a comparison between reproducing an existing design and developing something utterly new, can you?

[The New Lowlands]

France is in a prime position to invade Brazil with French Guyana.
Just putting it out there, you know.