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Postby Patricant » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:41 pm

Kryskov wrote:
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To properly clear up the Ascension Island US base issue.

There is only one airstrip on the island, which is controled by the UK.
The US has a base, but it is (from what google earth shows) just a collection of buildings.


Still a base.

But this presumably has the armament of a provincial Devon police station.
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Postby Soviet Ruk-Tsan » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:43 pm

Getting pretty tired of the shit in the Falklands, but I bet NATO doesn't want my help.
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Postby Bojikami » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:43 pm

Soviet Ruk-Tsan wrote:Getting pretty tired of the shit in the Falklands, but I bet NATO doesn't want my help

Same here. By the way. The dispute with the DR is over.
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Postby Delanshar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:44 pm

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Postby Machtergreifung » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:45 pm

Patricant wrote:
Kryskov wrote:
Still a base.

But this presumably has the armament of a provincial Devon police station.

Sure, with a whole 70 soldiers to defend it? It's going to put up hell of a fight!

Probably not even 70, actually, seeing as thats the entire American population on the islands. More likely there would be 40 or 50 American soldiers able to fight. But, because it's an American base, they will have a Apache gunship each and two M1A1 tanks for the weekends :p

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Postby Kryskov » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:46 pm

Delanshar wrote:Doing reroll:

66 45 44

Average is: 51.3

Ok. Doesn't seem to have ANY LOGIC WHATSOEVER, but I guess I'll think of something.

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Postby Machtergreifung » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:48 pm

Also Kryskov, what are your intensions regarding Ascension Island? Surrender or do I have to enter into a do or die battle with the few hundred aircraft mechanics that are on the island?

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Postby Delanshar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Delanshar wrote:Doing reroll:

66 45 44

Average is: 51.3

Ok. Doesn't seem to have ANY LOGIC WHATSOEVER, but I guess I'll think of something.


Sorry. This is just for Argentine airstrikes tho. The war is hardly over.

So this is what I'm thinking
"moderate damage" probly means that a few anti-air fortifications were destroyed/ disabled and the airfield took damage. Not enough to make it inoperable, though.

Also lets say 4 Argentine planes were either shot down or intercepted.
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Postby Kryskov » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:Also Kryskov, what are your intensions regarding Ascension Island? Surrender or do I have to enter into a do or die battle with the few hundred aircraft mechanics that are on the island?

Tough call. I don't really want to just loose the island. Plus, the mechanics are really insignificant. But I do agree with Minny that I don't think sneaking a task force near an island, especially one with radar, is easy.

@ Delanshar Out of how many attacking?
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Postby Machtergreifung » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:53 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:Also Kryskov, what are your intensions regarding Ascension Island? Surrender or do I have to enter into a do or die battle with the few hundred aircraft mechanics that are on the island?

Tough call. I don't really want to just loose the island. Plus, the mechanics are really insignificant. But I do agree with Minny that I don't think sneaking a task force near an island, especially one with radar, is easy.

@ Delanshar Out of how many attacking?


Hack out a deal IC that they will be immediatly returned to Britain if they surrender right away if that helps salve your concience.

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Postby Minnysota » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:58 pm

*wonders why no one has called out Brazil on his ridiculous fighter time frame and the bullshit that is his blockade of Ascension*

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By nightfall on Brasilia, a plan was in place. One team would set to work copying the design of the Eurofighter for Brazilian use, making any improvements that it would need for operating in the South Atlantic theater, while another team would work designing a version of the fighter to be deployed from the carrier Sao Paulo and the third team would co-ordinate with the Brazilian industrial sector to ensure that the parts were available so that the aircraft could be totaly home produced. By the next morning, de Silva was presented with a timetable. A working prototype copy of the Eurofighter in two months, a strong final design in five months, with production starting in six months time, with the carrier version coming at least a month following that.


Emphasis mine.
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Postby Delanshar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:59 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:Also Kryskov, what are your intensions regarding Ascension Island? Surrender or do I have to enter into a do or die battle with the few hundred aircraft mechanics that are on the island?

Tough call. I don't really want to just loose the island. Plus, the mechanics are really insignificant. But I do agree with Minny that I don't think sneaking a task force near an island, especially one with radar, is easy.

@ Delanshar Out of how many attacking?


Edit: His ORBAT includes about 97 fighters. Assuming they all attacked, I'm increasing the number you shot down to 8.
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Postby Patricant » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:02 pm

Would anyone object if Nigeria builds its own automatic rifles, in addition to utilizing our Chinese and Russian-made ones.
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Postby New Ecopia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:07 pm

Patricant wrote:Would anyone object if Nigeria builds its own automatic rifles, in addition to utilizing our Chinese and Russian-made ones.


I certainly won't object but on one condition that the automatic rifles are not god modded in any way.
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First roll: Argentine strike on Falklands
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15-40: Strikes do moderate damage, and significant amount of planes intercepted/shot down
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55-70: Strikes do mild damage, and few planes intercepted/shot down
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Postby Minnysota » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:08 pm

Patricant wrote:Would anyone object if Nigeria builds its own automatic rifles, in addition to utilizing our Chinese and Russian-made ones.


People make copies of the Russian assault rifles all the time. You could do that pretty easily.
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Postby Generic Socialist Country » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:10 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:
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Still a base.


Certainaly, but it's a non-entity in trying to take the island, the demands were made of the governing body of the Island (Britain), so America really has no say provided I don't carpet bomb the base.


That wouldn't stop the US from declaring war, at least not the real US.

If you spat on the Presidents shoes they'd declare war, especially if they don't approve of your government.
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Postby Parhe » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:11 pm

I guess math is not my strongpoint but if we average out three rolls are not the numbers closer to the center 50 more likely to occur, or is it my faulty math logic, or is it already taken in to account?
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Postby Machtergreifung » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:11 pm

Minnysota wrote:*wonders why no one has called out Brazil on his ridiculous fighter time frame and the bullshit that is his blockade of Ascension*

Machtergreifung wrote:
By nightfall on Brasilia, a plan was in place. One team would set to work copying the design of the Eurofighter for Brazilian use, making any improvements that it would need for operating in the South Atlantic theater, while another team would work designing a version of the fighter to be deployed from the carrier Sao Paulo and the third team would co-ordinate with the Brazilian industrial sector to ensure that the parts were available so that the aircraft could be totaly home produced. By the next morning, de Silva was presented with a timetable. A working prototype copy of the Eurofighter in two months, a strong final design in five months, with production starting in six months time, with the carrier version coming at least a month following that.


Emphasis mine.

Seeing as I can't copypasta the Eurofighter, I've changed it to the Gripen. I fail to see your point, if you have a team of engineers working to figure out how a aircraft works and how to make another aircraft to work the same way, you're cutting years of development. Yes, it won't be as good as the original, but you're not having to reinvent the wheel...

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Postby Machtergreifung » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:12 pm

Generic Socialist Country wrote:
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Certainaly, but it's a non-entity in trying to take the island, the demands were made of the governing body of the Island (Britain), so America really has no say provided I don't carpet bomb the base.


That wouldn't stop the US from declaring war, at least not the real US.

If you spat on the Presidents shoes they'd declare war, especially if they don't approve of your government.

:lol:

What about a shoe?

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Postby New Ecopia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:13 pm

Parhe wrote:I guess math is not my strongpoint but if we average out three rolls are not the numbers closer to the center 50 more likely to occur, or is it my faulty math logic, or is it already taken in to account?


Maybe it's your faulty math logic.
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Delanshar wrote:Revised for SAMs

First roll: Argentine strike on Falklands
0-10: Strikes do major damage, but significant amount of planes intercepted/shot down
10-15: Strikes do major damage, and few planes intercepted/shot down
15-40: Strikes do moderate damage, and significant amount of planes intercepted/shot down
40-55: Strikes do moderate, but few planes intercepted/shot down
55-70: Strikes do mild damage, and few planes intercepted/shot down
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Postby Patricant » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Patricant wrote:Would anyone object if Nigeria builds its own automatic rifles, in addition to utilizing our Chinese and Russian-made ones.


People make copies of the Russian assault rifles all the time. You could do that pretty easily.

I am aware. I will commence with their assembly then.
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Postby Minnysota » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:15 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:Seeing as I can't copypasta the Eurofighter, I've changed it to the Gripen. I fail to see your point, if you have a team of engineers working to figure out how a aircraft works and how to make another aircraft to work the same way, you're cutting years of development. Yes, it won't be as good as the original, but you're not having to reinvent the wheel...


No; your time frame is ridiculous even if you've just bullshitted a copy of a fighter. Two months for a prototype is horseshit in itself, but a production-ready model in sixth months is borderline godmod.

EDIT: It's as simple as Brazil having close to zero experience in avionics and engines.
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Postby New Ecopia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:16 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:Seeing as I can't copypasta the Eurofighter, I've changed it to the Gripen. I fail to see your point, if you have a team of engineers working to figure out how a aircraft works and how to make another aircraft to work the same way, you're cutting years of development. Yes, it won't be as good as the original, but you're not having to reinvent the wheel...


No; your time frame is ridiculous even if you've just bullshitted a copy of a fighter. Two months for a prototype is horseshit in itself, but a production-ready model in sixth months is borderline godmod.


I agree
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Delanshar wrote:Revised for SAMs

First roll: Argentine strike on Falklands
0-10: Strikes do major damage, but significant amount of planes intercepted/shot down
10-15: Strikes do major damage, and few planes intercepted/shot down
15-40: Strikes do moderate damage, and significant amount of planes intercepted/shot down
40-55: Strikes do moderate, but few planes intercepted/shot down
55-70: Strikes do mild damage, and few planes intercepted/shot down
70-100: Strikes do mild damage, but significant amount of planes intercepted/shot down

Better?


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Postby Delanshar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:17 pm

Parhe wrote:I guess math is not my strongpoint but if we average out three rolls are not the numbers closer to the center 50 more likely to occur, or is it my faulty math logic, or is it already taken in to account?


I don't think so. But tbh I'm no math wiz. The very first roll yesterday was in the 20s (averaged from 3)
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Postby Machtergreifung » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:17 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:Seeing as I can't copypasta the Eurofighter, I've changed it to the Gripen. I fail to see your point, if you have a team of engineers working to figure out how a aircraft works and how to make another aircraft to work the same way, you're cutting years of development. Yes, it won't be as good as the original, but you're not having to reinvent the wheel...


No; your time frame is ridiculous even if you've just bullshitted a copy of a fighter. Two months for a prototype is horseshit in itself, but a production-ready model in sixth months is borderline godmod.


Well, jesus christ, what do you expect of me? First I've to have a degree in economics to be able to buy any fighters, and now I need to have a in-depths understanding of aircraft development to build my own?

Kindly fuck off.

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